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Summary
Finland has declined a U.S. request to export eggs amid a severe American shortage caused by bird flu.
The Finnish Poultry Association cited the lack of prior trade agreements and complex regulatory hurdles. Even if exports were possible, Finland’s limited egg production would not significantly impact the U.S. crisis.
Other European nations, including Sweden and Denmark, also face difficulties meeting U.S. demand, while Europe grapples with its own egg shortages.
The U.S. has turned to countries like Turkey and the Netherlands for supplies as bird flu remains a global issue.
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I’m sure the Finns aren’t exactly keen to take a price hike on eggs to meet a hostile country’s needs.
The Finnish Poultry Association cited the lack of prior trade agreements and complex regulatory hurdles.
Such an understated way of saying: you started a trade war, now go fsck yourself!
The US has a trade agreement with Mexico and Canada and it still means shit to him
Every country should refuse to send eggs to the US.
The only way I would consider it would be if there was a US wide broadcast where the world leader that gives them some has a low-level staffer ask JD Vance if he is going to “say thank you even once”. Trump needs to then tell JD that he has to say thank you because “we don’t have the cards. With them, we start to have cards”.
If they won’t say that on television, put export tariffs on eggs to the US at 500%.
It has to be 500% because 3 times the current price of eggs in Canada is about what they are selling for in the US already.
I respect this, as an American. We should be focusing on buying American goods. And sometimes that means there are going to be shortages and limits on natural resources. But I’m not upset by it either. I’d prefer to buy local or buy American in general, and trust that it’s all been done by employers who use E-Verify (so that all employees are legal and being paid a legal wage), where our labor laws are enforced.
I wouldn’t be willing to buy imported eggs. I’m barely willing to buy imported produce, and seek to avoid it when possible.
Nah that’s a bad idea, we should embrace international cooperation. Globalism will actually deliver your cheap eggs instead of lying about it like national socialism did.
Eggs are now caught being trafficked into the US at higher rates than fentanyl.
158% increase in egg interceptions
Thank you for the first real lol of the day.
Big DumDum will probably put tariffs on them…
This is what happens when you burn all your bridges. I’m American myself and to be brutally honest, I hope most of the free world will continue to refuse requests to export to us.
Chickens are cheap to house and feed, more people should become familiar with where their food comes from and get a handful.
I have a neighbor that raises them for her eggs. Every time they wander onto my property I turn the hose on them
Any particular reason?
I bet you could get some free eggs out of the deal if you were a bit more neighborly.
Because she doesn’t keep them in her own chicken run for one. She has some other personal issues that also put me off.
The feed costs like 100 times more than you would spend on equivalent eggs.
And also they don’t lay eggs in winter. So you’re gonna be slaughtering them too.
I used to raise chickens for eggs. They lay eggs in winter if you have a proper coop. In the summer we had a coop that could be moved. It had wheels and we would move it to a different spot every few days allowing the chicken to forage bugs. It really helped out the yard as well. I would still be doing that if I lived in a place where I could.
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Not even close.
Feed costs like $10/50lb bag and lasts about a month, in that time I can get between 150-200 eggs, 150 eggs / 12 = 12.5 dozen, 12 dozen eggs at * $3 = $36 worth of eggs; not 100 times more at all.
That’s before you even start eating them. They can lay during the winter but they do stop laying when they’re about 5 so after that it might be dumplings time.
Think about it, if it weren’t economical to raise chickens and sell the eggs nobody would do it. It’s a business because it can make money. They’re one of the easiest, cheapest animals to raise and care for and a great source of protein.
yeah, it sucks, I wish we had this cheap protein, but, like… americans need to suffer. they need to suffer, and they need to know it’s their leader’s fault.
The suffering is almost a guarantee, but I’m not holding my breath on anyone that doesn’t already do so holding Trump accountable for shit.
unlike the more severe accountable shit like getting people to murder their own children with pox for the cause, the eggs thing is something that allows people to reverse course, and in fact makes it easier. this might genuinely be the largest threat to the regime.
They need to know it’s their fault. They elected him, either through action or inaction.
Then they need to do some introspection to figure out what the fuck is wrong with them.
But they won’t because America doesn’t do that. 9/11, for example, had nothing to do with anything America had done.
what happened on the ninth of november?
Explain to me like I’m 5… Can we not just stop butchering chickens for few days and get them to lay eggs to “catch” up? Or are those chickens too far removed from normal chickens that they no longer lay eggs?
They’re being killed because of the avian flu pandemic that’s currently going on. Dead poultry generally doesn’t lay eggs.
You still have legumes available.
of course lemmy suggests beans.
The vegan suggests beans.
clever gambit. how long were you vegan to pull this off with deniability? will you go back to meat, or stay under cover?
it’s not the worst reason to go vegan. I’ve done much more inconvenient and unethical things for a bit.
Consider the 🥜
Key thing to bear in mind is that we think of “chicken” as a single animal, but industrial farming has selectively bred chickens into very different camps.
Meat chickens grow very big very quickly, and are killed for meat long before adulthood. You’d need to pause production a long enough time for them to grow into adulthood, then they would eventually lay eggs, but at a much slower rate than egg chickens, and requiring a lot more food (because of how big they are)
plus, the eggs they lay would not be egg chickens. they would be eating chickens. and all of them are dying en masse to the flu.
and chickens lay whether the eggs are fertilized or not. kinda like how humans menstruate, but, like, much bigger, and we eat it even if we don’t think they’re cute.
The US is no longer a member of the ‘free world’. Traveling to US now is just as dangerous as travelling to China.
At least in China the likelihood of you getting gunned down by either police or some drunkard is significantly lower than US. As for other problem like scam or pickpocket or government overreach for some opinion, you won’t ever need to worry if you follow some common sense and common travelling tips. Authoritarian government like CCP treat traveller better than local.
Now I might be naive or plain wrong, but I tell you completely honestly, that I would always have been more concerned for my safety travelling to the US than China.
Naturally, one would steer away from discussing politics or behaving in ‘concerning’ ways in China - for example filming government buildings.
But, I have never felt I’d be in any danger doing average tourist stuff in China. I’ve been there twice, to more rural parts as it happens, and felt safe: People friendly, no edge.
US on the other hand… I admit I’ve barely visited to transfer flights, but the idea of being let loose in the US is considerably more challenging for me. Knowing that everyone is potentially armed, that trigger happy police are everywhere, there are high racial tensions, drugged up homeless etc.
This was truly my impression even before Trump was ever a household name.
Is it surprising to Americans that a Brit would genuinely feel that way around about the two countries? I don’t know. It doesn’t seem controversial to me, but then I read Americans talking about China as though it’s some scary place for them.
Sure. But the American empire will not just slowly die. As their people lose their “toys” that distract them they will need someone to blame it on that isn’t the US government.
This will at some point be other western nations along with their current scapegoat of immigrants and Palestine supporters. The American empire will use its military power long before it just lets it’s empire die. Its playing cards to see which nations it can blame first and which western allies will decide to align with them rather than face their military.
I agree with all the anti American boycotts. I do. But I don’t think people realize exactly where that is heading on a world stage.
I suspect more people than you think realise this is a potential outcome.
Assuming it boils over before there is another election (also assuming that’s a thing that happens), military action is 100% a playable card.
It’s a toddler with a nuclear tantrum button.
It’s honestly not that much different in type then most nuclear powered nations.
The difference is “absolute last resort, and only maybe then” vs “they won’t let me annex Greenland and are being mean to me”
Hyperbolic ofc, but illustrative.
What are the reasonable good alternatives though?
Maybe, I’m mostly just worried that the western world is fueling nationalism with these tariff wars. The “good alternative” is understanding that the tariff’s are not a war between nations but a war on the working class. These tariff’s are paid by the working class. The good alternative is understanding that the working class of each of these countries SHOULD be fighting against the ruling classes of each nation. The ruling classes between nations being in “conflict” is a charade. No one in the ruling class cares of the consequences but only sees them as an opportunity to fuel nationalism and reactionary sentiment.
So, while I will agree with anti America and anti imperialism. I just think that the “buy European” or “by Canadian” are missing the forest for the trees. The ruling class of Canada or Europe are not fighting a war against America. They are worsening the material conditions of their working class (in response to the Americans doing so) in order to maintain the profits of the ruling class of their nations.
It is absolutely ignorant to think that Canada or Europe or any other capitalist nation is fighting for the interest of their working class. They are fighting for the interest of their ruling class and will use nationalism to justify the worsening conditions we all face.
TLDR: This is not a war between nations but a war between class. (I know Marxist cliche but read it if you want more than that.)
A worldwide revolution in which everyone unites against the “ruling class” isn’t a viable alternative in and of itself, that’s like saying “world peace”.
An example of an alternative would be something which could fill in the blank in this sentence and make sense.
“Don’t boycott products/companies, that isn’t how you achieve your goal, what you should be doing is <BLANK>”
This is not a war between nations but a war between class
The issue i have with this isn’t that it’s a marxist cliche (i’ll take your word on that, I’ve no idea) it’s that it presents a false dichotomy in which a class war and a national war can’t both be occurring at the same time.
In Canada, a somewhat Trump inspired populist right leaning party had 100% of winning the next election.prediction markets had it at 93%.
since the beginning of Trumps tarring stacks, the center left party had surged in popularity to a degree not even thought possible. If the election was today, they would win.
Trump is giving people somebody to rally against. And the “us” vs “them” is the the world vs the US.
I bet Finland feels Oeufal
On the contrary, I bet they feel eggcellent
Where’s your chicken suit?
impounded at Texas Dept of Justice for being too furry-like.
Go suck an egg, Trump!
trump is going to tariff finland now because “wahh”
This mental image popped into my head, after reading your comment. Now you get to enjoy it too, wAaHhh!
The part that kills me about all this is that there is a bird flu vaccine, but US poultry farmers aren’t allowed to use it because then we couldn’t export eggs to other countries. There was a really good CBS Sunday Morning segment about this.
then we couldn’t export eggs to other countries
Why?
wonder if rapey mc rapist and techno nazi along with their gaggle of dip shit losers invested in poultry and eggs before this.
i mean its not uncommon for rich assholes and their corporate entities to heavily invest in things they know are about skyrocket in price or short smaller out circle businesses they know wont make it if the market craches, especially if they get to control the “soft landing”
even during a recession its possible to make a pyramid sized pile of cash if you bet on the right failure, even more so if you can fix the bet in the first place by forcing its price down.
they literally made a whole movie about this about the 2008 financial crisis.
you may not see it on paper right now, but that doesnt mean corpos arent sifting cash into secret accounts, either directly or on their behalf.
How about we introduce export tariffs on eggs instead.
Over 9000% tariffs
i am fully in support of them not selling us eggs.
