What is your line in the sand?
Edit: thank you all for your responses. I think it’s important as an American we take your view points seriously. I think of a North Korean living inside of North Korea. They don’t really know how bad it is because that is all hidden from them and they’ve never had anything else. As things get worse for Americans it’s important to have your voices because we will become more and more isolated.
Even the guy who said, “lol.” Some people need that sort of sobering reaction.
Not at all, you are just an autocracy now but don’t fully realise it, and as the other commentator had said, not even really a good democracy in the loosest of terms before this entire mess going on ATM!
Shit I live inside the US and I barely consider it a democracy.
lol
Unfortunately, it’s still a democracy. The electorate wanted what’s now going on. That could rapidly change at this point, but for now not yet.
Democracy is a sliding scale and the US is still on it. Could the people choose something different without resorting to violent revolution and protest? Yes
I’m a bit skeptical about this argument because autocratic states love to hold practically fake and forced elections with 90 or 99 % approval and use that as justification.
Sure, but that’s not the case in the US
I think the possibly final test for American democracy will be the midterm elections in two years. By then, I think that either trump will have broken the system enough to get a sham election, or we’ll see real, verifiable push-back against him. International organisations that monitor elections will probably take part in shaping my opinion on whether the election is fair or not. I think it’s worth remembering that whenever countries hold “fake and forced elections” there are plenty of international observers that point out the major rigging going on.
Unfortunately yes. People wanted this. They still want this. But people were also cheering for like, Mao even after he put millions of his own citizens into the ground, so who knows
People seem to think freedom and democracy are synonymous. Places can be free, but not have democracy; places can also have democracy and not be free. When a simple majority of the voting public supports cracking down on freedoms - you will have one of the two, but you can’t have both.
For me, the US is still a democracy with elements of an authoritarian regime. Yes, I believe this can happen in any country, including mine, if the elected party or a wealthy figure decides to amend such authoritarian, manipulative, and exploitative policies.
Depends on the outcome of the next election.
Or the existence of said election at all…
It was never a democracy.
Not for a long time. The Economist Democracy Index demoted the US to a “flawed democracy” since 2016, where it has been ever since.
Democracy index, 2024 - https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/democracy-index-eiu
I really never did, not a well functioning at least. They’ve practiced voter repression for decades, and then they had fun testing how low they could go after 9/11, doing a lot of unlawful shit, going after citizens who spoke out against their policies and wars.
I do. On my imaginary scale around 4 out of 10. So far the mess looks to me like it was voted in.
How can you be a democracy if you have only two political parties?
With one not giving a fuck, and the other severely fractured due to conflicting ideals none the less
Absolutely not. A country where two parties are the only two viable electoral options, is absolutely not a democracy. Doesn’t mean I’ll stop my membership for the PSL.
What does PSL stand for?
Plus Sized Lobsters
Pacific South Lest
.ml dipshits who spam “nato aggression” memes
Pink Sexy Lizards
Party for Socialism and Liberation.
Pumpkin Spice Latte
I am inside and I want to get out
Same. Is there a sign up sheet, or…?
Would be nice to know what part of America you mean by that. It is a pretty big continent you know? Argentinians, Mexicans, Brasilians and so on are all part of America.
Buuuut I’m gonna go ahead and assume you are asking about the UNITED STATES country, right?
Yes it is a Democracy. Not perfect, but then again which one is?
Colloquially, internationally, when people say America, I don’t think of them referring to anywhere but the US. I’m not about making things US centric either, just saying.
I always find this so pedantic, yes, America is the continent but it’s also the name of the country, just like you probably say Argentina, Mexico or Brazil for the countries you mentioned instead of Argentinian Republic, United States of Mexico, or Federative Republic of Brazil. By that same token when you said United States I could have assumed you were talking about Mexico, heck until very recently in history Brazil was also named United States of Brazil so if I or you were old I could also asume Brazil. But I know what you meant by US and you know what he meant by America, stop being pedantic.
The Americas is what you mean, vs America, which implies the US. If you want to include Canada and Mexico, you say “North America”. It’s not difficult.
I’ve been all over the world, and no one has ever been confused when I say I’m from America. This push to make it seem like it’s confusing is ridiculous.
