As investment, I bought this, instead of stocks. Any ideas on what to do with it?

Location:

  • 75km (1hr) to a big international airport. Airport has direct flights to most EU capitals (2-4hr flights)
  • 50km to city center
  • 25km from nearest large residential area (500,000+ population)
  • 5km from massive organized industrial area (government supports factories here)
  • 35km from a rich residential area
  • 1km away from the village (its old and mostly depopulated) and animal husbandry area

Access:

  • There is public transportation, but one has to walk 1.5km after leaving the bus.
  • There is no direct road access to the land. You have to walk like 200m after leaving your car.
  • 1km road to here is non-asphalt and its a bit bumpy ride. When it rains, it gets bad here. It rains rarely

It is quite peaceful and quiet there. You can hear interesting bird sounds sometimes. You see no buildings, no cars and no humans anywhere near you when you’re there, which feels great imo. You notice the air quality after you leave your car. I personally absolutely would want to live here for a while

Ideas

  • Trying to clarify this rn, but I think I can make $120-160/yr/decare from leasing the land to a farmer. Land is 25 decares
  • “Unique co-living opportunity with vegan food & yoga sessions” In other words, remote work / digital nomad village for people who want to work REALLY remotely :) I’d have to arrange electricity (solar panels and powerbanks), internet, toilet, shower, water, tents, mattresses/pillows/sheets, food, drinking water. (Though I don’t know what people will do when they’re bored here? Any ideas? Meditation would get boring after some point)
  • Sadly location isn’t touristic, but it is 1hr flight away from extremely touristic areas. One of those areas, a city, was the most visited city in the world a few years ago.
  • I’ve met a few volunteers and they seemed quite willing to volunteer for whatever I decide to do here (if I do anything). For those unfamiliar: WWOOF and Workaway

Also- Any suggestions on where I should ask this question on the internet?

  • That one Dutch guy@lemmy.world
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    Plant a shtload of trees and bushes, let it go ‘wild’, put cottages in between, spaced so they don’t see each other.

    A ‘back to nature’ retreat around the corner.

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      It can actually be a lot of work to do this. Researching species appropriate to the biome and removing invasive ones

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    What will people do there? The same thing people have done for 10,000 years. Alcohol, sex, and games.

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    I couldn’t tell you what to do with it but if I move to europe I will work on your commune and help with whatever as long as you’ll have me lol

    25 decares is a lot of land, you could have an entire city there. If the land is viable for farming you could allot enough of it to produce whatever you would need to sustain the population of the property, and have the rest of the place developed into living spaces and recreational areas like you said. A sports park, little golf course, botanical gardens, animal sanctuaries. Thats stuff for citizens to do besides meditate.

    I mean, this is a real opportunity to create generational prosperity not just for you but for everyone who is involved in building it up. I hope that, whatever happens, you keep it safe from people who would see it turned into more wealthy suburbs or a cash crop operation that kills the soil in a generation.

    Good luck to you on your journey and, again, I’d be thrilled to be a part of it

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      Dude I would homestead the shit out of that. Better be careful or they’ll have a bunch of lemmings (Lemmy nerds?) show up with a trowel and high hopes.

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        I, too, have used lemmings as a term to describe users here and I think it’s cute and endearing. We can decide as a group once we’re all at this guys property lmao

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      Tbh, starting a sustainable timber operation seems like a pretty good idea if you can afford to wait 15-20 years for the investment to start to pay off. Idk, I guess you could offer it as a camp/hunting ground in the meanwhile.

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        If you do a permaculture Arrangements you can really diversify while you wait for the trees to grow up, although by then they might be more valuable alive than dead especially if you pick the species to benefit the whole permaculture system

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        Annually or sometime a couple times a year, rake the pine straw, have it bailed, then sell it to folks doing landscaping or have someone pay you for the right to do that.

        In Georgia, roughly 100 acres of pine trees sell for around $1.5mil to $2mil when they are ready for harvest which is 15 to 20 years.

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    Serious answer. A outdoor area surrounded by casinos. Walking/biking areas only. You’ll need investment from builders. But you build it, they will come.

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    Regenerative Agriculture / Permaculture

    If you plan to lease out to a farmer, find one that won’t fill it with herbicides and pesticides. And maybe look to only lease part of it while you work to recover other parts.

    I’m looking to buy land that needs to be recovered and have the budget that will likely lead me to a place like this that doesn’t have direct road access. Good luck!

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    What does VISA sponsorship require? Maybe you could setup a farm/agrarian business and offer VISA sponsorship for migrants. As an American, I’d consider becoming a farmer with the opportunity to become an EU citizen lol probably not easy to do for a reason though.

    I feel like solar farming was a good suggestion from someone else. Maybe plant some trees if you’re not keen on making it a farm. If you can get it zoned, you might be able to get investment for residential? Though public transportation is lacking, maybe you could be the start of a small apartment complex or something like that. Idk much about this kind of thing.

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        Marketing.

        But first you need the idea. I’d say leftwing based religious science compatible apocalyptics is an untapped market. So basically make a bunker commune for societal collapse based on climate change and say all the current right wing politicians are demons accelerating it to bring upon hell on earth, and that oil is the devil’s blood.

        Just off the top of my head that’s an idea.

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          There’s a significant number of Evangelicals who believe “Left Behind” is predictive of the future rather than being a super anti-semitic take on the Christian end times. Those idiots are accelerating the end times in hopes of being saved. You don’t need demons you already have these racist dummies.

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            That’s already an existing large cult. We were talking about hypothetically starting a new one run by op on this land.

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        Attract people with the true promise of very cheap, simple, communal living, free from the pressures of capitalist society, a shared belief system, and/or a common ideology.

        Offer free workshops on useful skills like food storage and survival techniques, meditation, prayer, self-sufficiency, trauma counseling and drug and alcohol rehabilitation

        Restrict calories by setting meal times and durations.

        Make sure there is enough work so that everyone is busy all the time

        Restrict movement by having mandatory meetings, meditation sessions, or chores at particular times throughout the day so nobody has time to go to town.

        Erode individual identity with common dress, common food, common hairstyles etc.

        Identify and keep track of individual weaknesses (Trauma, parental issues, weight insecurity, financial insecurity, fear of failure, fear of abandonment mental illness), key motivations (Financial stability, seeking to be apart from society, seeking happiness), basic desires (financial security, relationship security, being part of a community, sex)

        Make extensive use of seed phrases and formal speech rules so that people censor their own speech. EG Each must greet the other with 'Good day, good evening, good morning, etc. As innocuous as this sounds, it forces interactions to begin on a predictable footing, and guides conversation along predictable lines. Said often enough, the formal ‘Good morning’ excludes the possibility that anything bad has happened, is happening, or might happen. People cannot speak to children and vice versa without a parent present (very handy if you take in runaways that have no parents), unmarried men and women may not be alone together except when courting, new members must have a guide/buddy/chaperone/mentor/elder present with them at all times for the duration of their probation.

        Maintain division by requiring individuals to report non-conformity by others, make non-reporting of non-conformity a punishable act, and make non-conformity a poorly defined and easily applied term, so that everyone is guilty, and you as the leader get to pick and choose who is punished.

        Punishments are gentle tightening of above restrictions - more work, less food, less interpersonal contact, less free time, more proselytizing etc.

        Reward extravagantly those who recruit others, using free time, more food, more freedom, sex with other members as a reward.

        Reward extravagantly revenue-generating activities, manufacturing, labor, producing food, donating money or assets, or illicit income such as burglary and shoplifting .

        Enjoy your cult.

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          You forgot some important aspects:

          People will have to give you all their belongings. They will have nothing if they ever want to leave. This can be done by making them pay for the workshops, with levels each more expensive then the other, making them not wanting to give up since they are already this far in and makes them give you everything they have to reach the next level. They must do so, otherwise they won’t have true devotion and they will risk punishment and have fear of being expelled. Look at Scientology, NXIVM.

          They need to break ties with friends and relatives. Isolate them, so they have no one to return to if they ever want to leave. True isolation, with only you to lead them. They cannot trust anyone else, they cannot trust themselves. Only you. Again, Scientology.

          Reward and punish them, but haphazardly, you don’t want to be predictable. This way they will do anything to get rewarded and are super scared to be punished. Break them down mentally, then build them up again according to your strict plan. Controlling their food and sleep helps (deprive them). They will follow you blindly and give up everything. See the documentary Stolen Youth on Hulu.

          What many cults do wrong, is not having a business plan. You need income, so make them work for something you can sell. See the documentary Wild Wild Country on Netflix, they did this perfectly. You have basically free labor so you can compete in many markets.

          And don’t forget you need good propaganda. You need new members, they need to think everything is super happy and they will learn new things about themselves (they will, after you break them first). Have a PR division, don’t be scared to pay someone properly to do this. Look at NXIVM, Scientology.

          There’s a documentary about NXIVM called:

          • The Vow

          Documentaries listed above:

          • Wild Wild Country
          • Stolen youth (this one was heavy on me)

          Other documentaries to watch:

          • Love has won, the cult of mother God (this one is really fucked up)
          • The way down
          • Escaping utopia
          • Raël
          • The deep end
          • Breath of fire
          • The program
          • Escaping twin flames
          • Kumaré
          • Prophet’s prey
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            Thanks bud, I’ll check out those films. Love Kumaré, I watched it again just a little while ago.

            I follow a podcast called Let’s Talk About Sects, by a nice Australian lady called Sarah Steel who talks about different cults each week and studies them, she’s very, very good.