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Just remember, if his new administration has proven anything, it is that the difference between legal and illegal in the American political system is mostly down to everyone being willing to go along with that law. There is very little actual teeth behind a lot of it at the high up federal level.
So it might be unconstitutional for him to run again, but who is actually going stop him? He has more guns and more sycophants than the court system.
Only applies to rich people and cops. For the rest of us, we have to follow the law.
Twenty-Second Amendment
Section 1
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
Elected to the office of the President
If you are looking for a loophole, I think there is an argument to be made that if he is elected to the office of the vice president and the president steps down, that would allow a “3rd term”.
I would love to be wrong, but I wouldn’t be shocked if that is the play.
Edit: dhork points out the 12th amendment should block this.
The loop hole would be that suddenly declare that he wasn’t officially elected because he cheated his way there /s
The 12th amendment states
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States
That seems pretty definitive. The only attack to it I can see (and it’s total bullshit) is that the Originalists on this court may insist on interpreting this amendment based on the state of the Constitution when it was ratified in 1804, and the term limits weren’t passed until 1952.
The way around that is making him speaker of the house and having both the president and vice president resign. Speaker doesn’t have any real requirements on it.
The Constitution leaves what happens if the Presidency and VP are both vacant at the same time up to Congress, and Congress has passed various Presidential Succession Acts, the most recent being 1947. The language in that Act specifically exempts anyone who would otherwise be ineligible from becoming President.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Succession_Act
And this has been enforced in the past; Cabinet Secretaries who were not natural-born citizens have not been included in the succession list. I remember specifically that when Madeline Albright was Clinton’s Secretary of State, she was not on the list because she was born in Prague.
I vaguely remember Trump briefly trying to be speaker of the house at some point, or at least talking about it.
From what I remember MTG nominated him during the McCarthy drama but it was just to add to the drama.
It’s been floated around for a bunch of politicians. They were talking about making Hillary speaker while impeaching Trump and Pence too.
TIL! Thanks!
This is just 1 amendment, though. They break 3 every time they disappear a US resident for dissidence.
But if they are biologically DNA transformed from one gender to another, then they can? Or if trumpfus is born again in the Buddhist sense but in Christianity while doing a ruzzian adult film star? Then he can?
Supreme court:
Amendment schmamendment.
To make this explicit, the law is what Trump and his merry band of miscreants say it is, unless we’re willing to step up as a country and say ‘No it isn’t’ and back those words up with action, if needed. All the words in the Constitution are is ink on a piece of paper, unless we’re willing to stand and fight for them.
Everyone knows “why”. The question is “how”. How are they preparing for a third term? We all know they are.
It’s really simple, and I don’t know why it isn’t obvious to everyone. The Republican party will simply refuse to run a candidate. They will claim that the country is under hostile occupation by Marxists who are attempting to destroy the United States from within and just refuse to leave office directly after the mid-terms (if we even make it that far before he declares war & martial law).
They don’t need to cancel anything. What will happen is they will refuse to leave unless they are removed by force. At that point, it doesn’t fucking matter what happens with the election because there is no legal mechanism to enforce the removal of the regime. They are going to dare the courts, the police, and the military to forcibly remove them, which we all know will not happen. Then just rule by fiat forever.
The End.
What do you know, Trump was right. Civil War (2024) was about him.
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I remember when Republicans used to say things like “if you threaten my consitumitutional rights I will fight you to the end”
but this IS the end
And they are fighting. Just for the wrong side. Can’t wait to see how fast they crumple in the face of righteous physical anger.
Keyword is MY not your
I don’t see him surviving this term. He is too old, his mind and body is going. He could be living his best life but instead is destroying everyone eleses.
Don’t depend on this. I didn’t expect him to survive his first term, but there’s something about evil that seems to keep the body animated long past its best-by date.
yeah, look at how evil RFK jr looks.
Indeed, kenneth copeland is still alive
Reading this thread makes me love lemmings.
There is a dictatorship happening to the south. Professors are leaving Yale University for the University of Toronto. For God’s sake, get out and vote in Canada in our upcoming election. Danielle Smith is blatantly snuggling up with MAGA. And PP keeps changing his ideologies with the political wind. Save our sovereignty.
Obama would kick his ass
If I understand correctly, the magoffs like Bannon want to craft it to exclude Obama (and Bill Clinton and W) but include donvict.
For me not for thee…
And stick his tongue in.
His mind is already mush and in four years, it’d be a terrible Weekend at Bernie’s sequel.
I don’t think they’re going to let a little thing like the laws get in the way of a good time.
Like he’ll be alive in 4 years.
How about a national militia of tesla burners?
Lol, lmao even. There is, and will be, no “national militia.” What’s going to happen is that the American people will sit in their couches, maybe cry, and say “why is this happening to us, somebody save us.” Anything that doesn’t take effort.
We are quite factually already NOT doing that. Get involved with a movement before you post doomer shit like this. Remember, every war we ever lost has been against fighters that blend in with the population. Its why we lost Vietnam, why we lost in Bush’s little scandal, and why they’ll lose when Trump tries to do this. Our biggest hurdle isnt getting people off their asses.
“yeah this thread is discussing how the American people are actively burning teslas and dealerships and all that but ameriturds totally won’t do anything”
I’m watching news every day about how the Turd Reich is cracking down on anything that opposes them, but yeah the people totally aren’t doing a thing.
I remember the Russian military recruitment offices burning these past years, and their railroads getting sabotaged.
The western press proudly stated “this is what happens when you don’t allow people to protest, they turn to sabotage”.
But I guess this administration missed the memo.
Weird, guy who breaks laws with impunity doesn’t care about laws.
Nope
Conservative don’t like bypassing term limit. Conservative subreddit are already not happy. So yep it’s matter of time some maga nut bag will revolt against him.
Last I checked werent the mods going full gestapo and banning anyone who questioned trump ? That sub really is a shithole.
One already tried to shoot him.
I hope the republicans have better aim this time.
Am I OOTL on this?
The guy who almost Luigi’d him was a Republican.
Dont go saying stuff like this on reddit or else the sensitive ass chud admins will ban you
I don’t say anything on reddit.
Good.
Out of solidarity can someone take a shot at Spez as well?
Go for it lol. I’ve been taking pot shots at the reddit admin regime since I showed up
It all depends on how they spin it
Conservatives WILL like it when their media tells them how to justify/spin it.
Yeah. Outrage now doesn’t mean outrage when it matters. Things will look very different in 4 years and conservatives always seem willing to fall in line.
