Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.
It’s getting hard to stay optimistic these days.
Maybe, for the first time in history, they’ll blame the right person!
…naaaah.
Don’t give a shit about red states. They can gargle deez nutz
Never help Trumpers. Empathy is for soyboy snowflakes after all.
I say, this, after weighing the words carefully in my mind, and with a profound sense of empathy for what it means, but – good. Maybe most of the people in these areas are so deeply ingrained that they can’t tell right from left, but at some point when the pain is too much, at some point when the desperation and bitterness and anger is leading to no action and no results, at some point they will realize that their mayors who are Republican and their county representatives are Republican and their state legislators are Republican and their governors are Republican and their congressional representatives are Republican and their president is Republican. At some point there would be a break, hopefully, in their Great Wall of ignorance and stupidity for some light to shine through. And while I fervently agree with most of them on how much I hate the national Democratic Party and it’s neoliberal corporate subserviency, That’s something different has to come about for us to get somewhere out of this hell scape.
Most supporters of the Nazis went to the grave believing their cause was just. Whether it was on the battlefield, at the end of a firing squad, or decades later of old age.
They let go of their aspirations and public support because they were forced to, at the end of a gun.
That would require educating yourself and questioning the entire paradigm you have lived in your entire life. And this hypothetical awakening would only happen after being faced with the consequences of falling further into poverty. Big doubt it.
People have been waiting for this break to happen since the 90s.
It’s not happening.
Their welfare payments haven’t been cut off before, we’ll see.
At some point there would be a break, hopefully, in their Great Wall of ignorance and stupidity for some light to shine through.
There won’t be. The media that they consume will just tell them that Democrats or Mexicans or Muslims or trans athletes are to blame for their problems, and they’ll believe it.
More importantly, they’ll want to believe it. They won’t want to think that they’ve been wrong for years or decades. It will always be someone else’s fault
A lot of them are completely brainwashed by Fox News. It’s their primary form of entertainment. They will die believing the propaganda. They’re a lost cause unfortunately.
It would take a 5-10 year depression for enough of them to reach the point that it would make a meaningful difference. Seriously.
Look at how it went last time. FDR and then his vice president created a 20-year presidential legacy following Hoover’s complete mismanagement of the Great Depression. After that came the 5-star general who defeated Hitler (who ran as a Republican in order to block an isolationist candidate farther on the right), then back to Democrats for another eight years—until giving black people equal rights was a bridge too far for Southern Democrats.
Basically, Trump would need to destroy this country economically, and have that ruination take hold for many years, before real charge can happen.
I mean he is going to do that, and the recovery won’t come to those places because they’re already economic dead ends. We need to focus on getting people who aren’t MAGA out and let them rot in the misery they bring in themselves. History is full of ghost towns, we’re just going to see some more that’s all. The rest of America will be able to recover and ditch these nonsense people and their broken politics
Good. They literally voted for this. We all warned them, the signs were all there. They chose not to listen or believe us. They brought this in themselves and I’m gonna relish, popcorn in hand, as the leopards devour their faces.
This is the America that Conservatives demanded.
“thanks, Obama!”
Melania should wear her “I don’t care, do you” jacket on a tour of the flyover states. It’s fun when the politicians send their wives to places they’ve pissed off…like when Vance sent his wife to Greenland.
Didn’t vamce go with her though?
Yeah and they knocked on a bunch of doors begging folks to meet, and everyone was like “Sorry, no thanks”.
Yup. Red states will suffer the worst, if it’s not the grants, it will be the measles.
Gawd I hope so, these assholes soooooo have it coming. They’re totally self-sufficient and don’t need anyone or anything from anyone though, right? So they should be just fine in their Libertarian paradise?
And they’ll blame The Libs like always
Checking my local newspaper, turning on the TV, and logging into my favorite social media. Everywhere I go it’s the same message - liberals are to blame.
What other conclusion am I supposed to draw?
Have you heard of critical thinking?
Critical thinking without useful information is just teleology. You’re stuck doing Thomas Acquinus shit or Aristotilianisn when you have an abundance of analytical skill but you’re working from fundamentally biased or outright manufactured sources.
The information is there. I’ve had no problem keeping informed. It has been a drain on my mental health, but it’s very doable.
Just stay away from bullshit social media, first and foremost.
I’ve had no problem keeping informed.
Plenty of conservatives will tell you the same shit
Ok… And? I can demonstrate it, they cannot.
You can site your sources. They can site theirs.
Yeah, that’s not a sustainable way to keep the majority informed. Most don’t have the availability to do this extra work between jobs and family.
It is if you educate them properly.
I used to think that too until I grasped how much intellectual labor goes into the process.
I’m educated properly and it takes me a very long time to sift through the mud to stay informed. Some of my friends are educated properly as well and they fall behind / fall for some bullshit because they don’t have the time to do the work. If they spend the time, they figure it out. And that’s the trick, education gives the capability, but one still needs to do the work in order to stay informed. Doing this work requires time available, and a steady mental health. Both of those are actively taken away by the ever increasing cost of living (demands of the system). And most have to do the same work to stay informed.
Fox News will and they will repeat it.
Yea, if those libs didn’t skip out on voting Kamala cause she’s pro genocide, this never would have happened!
I’d add /s, but somehow I see maga fucks being okay with this excuse.
I can’t tell what’s happening here, are you being sassy because people aren’t pro genocide?
Idk I was drunk.
Understandable
Hey look, the perennial straw man machines are here.
A few weeks ago, they all seemed to be operating from the same exact talking points and it seemed to be “yeah, it’s regrettable what is happening, but we are dealing with this terrible economy that Biden handed us…”
Which is weird, because the economy was doing just fucking fine before donvict started working to break government, threaten our allies and go into a stupid trade war with everyone.
It wasn’t doing fine; these towns were already dying. Trump told them a bunch of lies about how he would fix the economy. They tried putting out the fire with gasoline.
I thought this was a photo of Marco Rubio
Cool. Libs will buy those properties for cheap. Sales coming soon.
Hell yeah. My home value has gone up 50% since I bought it. Got tons of equity waiting for a big house outside of the city to get cheaper. Let’s paint the countryside blue.
Libs are poor, too.
This is for the billionaire class, who are mostly Republican.
I dunno dude. Ya there are these 1% who are billionaire. Then there are these folks out on the wood who supposed for billionaire and make about 99% of Republican party. Literally in Birmingham Alabama for some work, as soon as u leave town, it’s all confederate flag and white Christina flags everywhere. Billionaires are just brainwashing these folks.
The path to billionaire pockets is getting shorter for most properties. AirBnB allows it to pay for itself even faster than rental property, justofy its sitting empty status, and the semi-rich hosts often sell to these conglomerates as part of their retirement nest egg.
The median Californian or Oregonian or Chicagoan is probably just getting by. But I don’t have data to back that up.
Will be interesting to see how Faux “News” and other outlets craft a message to their marks about how this is “Biden’s economy” and poor donvict is only trying to fix things because he “was handed the worst economy ever”.
I mean, you’d have to be a complete moron that wants to believe such bullshit, but then we are talking about the kinds of people that voted for donvict…
“Look whut the liberals have done to us.”
100% this.
Thoughts and prayers
I live in one of these towns, and all I can think of is “thoughts and prayers” as well. WNC voted for Trump because they liked the cruelty, and it will come back to bite them and the rest of us.
The problem is that they aren’t smart enough to put the facts together and will blame whoever faux tells them to.
