Summary
Global leaders criticized Trump’s new tariffs, which range from 10% to 49%, warning of trade wars and economic fallout.
The UK and Italy urged negotiation, while Brazil passed a reciprocity bill. China and South Korea vowed countermeasures.
Australia and New Zealand rejected Trump’s logic, citing existing trade deals and low tariffs. Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.
Financial markets dropped, oil and bitcoin sank, and leaders warned of inflation. Analysts say Trump risks fracturing global trade with little to gain economically.
I hope the EU reacts with something non-tariffy. Like forbidding US online platforms to serve ads and collect personal data, with severe punishments if they still do.
Yes that would be amazing and a great stimulant for EU companies to start developing a competing platform of it’s own (we have BeReal, Dailymotion, Medal and Dumpert, but they aren’t very big AFAIK)
Having Non-US platforms would be nice, yes, But leaving the US-based ones without ad revenue and a shit-ton of users would be nice, too.
Why not both?
or something ultra specific that is super easy to source from any other country, to exclusively hurt the american businesses
or something ultra specific that is super easy to source from any other country, to exclusively hurt the american businesses
That was part of what went into how Canada chose the targets of out first rounds of counter-tariffs.
Product categories that we also make here, or can easily get elsewhere or can comfortably do without for an extended period of time.
That combined with a consumer led boycott of anything "made in the USA " and even staunch Republicans like Mitch McConnell are starting to push back against Trump.
Advertising should just be illegal.
It gives an unfair advantage to those who already have an unfair advantage.
I recommend installing an addon called AdNauseam to block ads in addition to sending data that you’ve clicked them.
Please everyone. Try to understand that being a useful idiot is the norm these days. It’s what’s cool.
Someone needs to create plugins not to block data being sent, but to send inordinate amounts of trash data.
Make the whole system pointless.
Nice mention of AdNauseam, here is a link:
It’s based on uBlock Origin, so still state of the art in ad-blocking.
We can only hope.
I recently read an article that suggested the best retaliation would be to stop enforcing US intellectual property in the EU. One of the biggest exports they have is media, if we would stop enforcing their copyright it would cost them a lot of money.
Official EU website hosting American-made media for a nominal fee. Can’t tariff data!
Would also save the EU an enormous amount in monitoring and enforcement
Of that I am not convinced. This will work with a lot of smaller countries that don’t have much of a copyright portfolio, but not with Europe.
You don’t even have to go that far. Just adopt sane copyright laws, like copyright only lasting the life of the artist.
Yeah, but think about the grandchildren of the CEO who bought that IP from the artist‽
Do you want them to
starvehave to work for a living?Copyright and patent laws should just go away entirely.
The amount of resources we spend enforcing them, just so we can spend more resources on the products themselves, could all be spent improving the lives of people who need it.
Most great art doesn’t make much money anyways, barely more than a service job if you’re lucky. It’s the trashy-shit for low-standards morons that makes an egregious amount of money, like the marvel crap we keep seeing every year.
I’d be fine with less marvel-crap in the world. It’ll make what we do get more impactful, and we can dedicate more resources to fewer, higher-quality products.
Your mistake is thinking that Marvel is art.
Everything done with skill is art. From Citizen Kane to the design of a candy wrapper.
Sure, but that wording becomes detrimental when you only expect high-quality things because that’s what you associate with art, forgetting that there is also entertainment that doesn’t need to be high quality necessarily.
That’s a great plan for letting those mega corps steal from the little guy EVEN more than they already do
Not really.
Corporations aren’t going to be making billions of dollars off of, say Photoshop, if copyright and patents laws didn’t exist.
Same goes for hollywood movies.
You’re peddling rhetoric that was put here by your oppressors so you will work against your own interests. Congratulations.
The entities with the established distribution networks will make the money, not the little guy who makes their own little story.
If I write a little seld published novel, under your system, Hollywood can just take that story and make a movie of it without my permission. How is that better? You think more people pirating will take down these mega corps? Your system is chaos that’s even worse than the current model.
They can do so currently by making a couple of minor changes and settling for a pittance because your lawsuit would bankrupt you.
“Chaos” is a better system than one benefitting corporations only.
Your dilemma essentially translates to “wahh, he stole my idea!”
You’re also missing the forest for the trees, again. How is hollywood going to make an egregious amount of money off of ‘your’ idea without copyright and patent laws? Without them, piracy isn’t piracy. It’s just a normal and legal way of sharing media.
Sad watching how hard you people go to bat for your oppressors, but it really puts into perspective why things are the way they are.
The average person just can’t see past their conditioning or how hard they’ve been indoctrinated to support a system that works against them. In the words of Mark Twain, “it’s easier to fool a man than to convince him he’d been fooled.”
Thats still too long imo. Patents are 20 years, so should every IP protection.
If it’s good enough for inventors, it’s good enough for musicians, writters and software developers.
I think a lot of that kind of stuff is going to happen. I don’t think other countries are insulted, as much as they find it ridiculous, and to be ridiculed, I think they’re going to do some inventive chaos. I think we need to be building some world bingo cards, and I’ll bet we won’t guess all the (hopefully hilarious) petty revenges about to snowball.
Rip my year-old IRA
Shortly after Trump’s announcement, the British government said the United States remains the U.K.’s “closest ally.”
I’m sorry TERF island, that’s not gonna keep Trump from stabbing you in the back too.
Heads up, UK, the US will use you as a toilet every chance you give it, and we’ve just dropped all pretense, however thin it may have previously been, about caring about our “allies”. Speaking as a US citizen, I would strongly advise against considering yourself a close friend to the US until we get our shit sorted.
The UK already shot themselves in the foot turning their back on the EU… they have no one left, they are done for
It’s heartbreaking, really.
The UK is like a kid who just got his face covered in mud by bullies, and goes “aren’t my friends wonderful for playing with me?”.
Well see there is just the problem, TERF island needs more toxic masculinity so the men can be tough!
/s
It’s illogical to expect an illogical man to act logically.
Someone like trump needs hit first to avoid a confrontation.
Dumb man does dumb thing he considers a race and insists he won.
Someone asked chatGPT how to apply tariffs to give America an equal playing field and it spit it a formula that looks shockingly similar to how trump calculated the tariffs
Try grok and you’ll get an exact match.
Dead horse economics:
Wake up you lazy horse!
what an absolute bafoon. so devoid of thoughts
buffoon
Trump is not buff.
Definitely not. Nor is he a small, pixie like creature
Norfolk Island was baffled by a 29% duty despite having no exports.
Ahahaha. For a day, I want to be inside his head and see the world through his eyes. It would be the most valuable insight for humanity… If only to learn exactly what not to do.
It would be like that scene in Braveheart, where the Prince is having servants walk in front of him holding a full length mirror, so he can constantly admire himself.
No thoughts. Only anger at being confused.
More then racism, Trump’s appeal is being a simple answer to a complex question. Which happens to mean racism when applied to race relations, but also harebrained economic policies or injecting bleach into yourself. This is the same man who used a sharpy to change the path of a hurricane on a map rather then admit he misspoke.
Trump’s government has made the US a village idiot - and if the idiot gets into a fight with the whole village, the idiot will have more bruises.
Why he does that - I don’t pretend to understand.
He’s preparing for an authoritarian takeover.
Almost every dictator in history enacted massive tariffs so they had a way to control the economy. Loyal businesses are given tariff exemptions while all the other ones are suppressed. That’s what Mussolini did, that’s what Putin did and now it’s what trump does.
I’ll wonder if that “we need guns to defend ourselves against an oppressive government” statement was true.
All the guns on the world won’t do any good against a missile. Gun nuts are just waiting for an excuse to shoot their neighbors. Jokes on them because no gun can save them from getting 🗡 In their sleep or getting their food ☠️.
He’s trying to destroy the country. Amassing as many bruises as possible is the point.
The village idiot has more guns than the whole village together. So I’m not sure he will accept the bruises.
translated some analytics written for Russian audience. from here: https://t.me/s/artjockey
About the Tariffs Today marked the “great day for the USA” previously announced by Trump, as the U.S. has now imposed import tariffs against the entire world. I won’t make predictions about how this will affect the global economy, how much the S&P has dropped, and so on. Instead, I want to draw attention to something that might not be immediately obvious.
The newly introduced tariffs can be divided into three parts: economic, political, and protective.
At the core of these tariffs is a baseline 10% duty on all imports. I’m not sure why there’s so much noise around this—basically, Zoomers invented the reusable shopping bag, and Trump has invented VAT. The U.S. has never had a national-level VAT before, only state-level sales taxes. Now, there will be a federal VAT, but only on imports and only at 10%.
There are also clear protective tariffs, intended to give advantages to domestic manufacturers and to motivate foreign companies that want to sell in the U.S. to move production inside the country, so they can stay competitive against local producers. These are 25% tariffs on all imported cars and computers. It’s all fairly straightforward and not worth overanalyzing. Russia has all of this too: VAT, protection for domestic car makers (e.g., AvtoVAZ), and maybe in the future Trump will even “invent” vehicle recycling fees.
In short, Trump could have quietly pushed a 10% import VAT through Congress without much publicity, and you wouldn’t have even seen the news in any headlines. But in that case, he wouldn’t have been able to kick off a series of trade wars.
The most interesting part of the tariffs is their political nature. I think everyone understands that the 54% tariff on all imports from China (a combination of a previous 20% and today’s 34%) is by no means a reciprocal move—it’s a global trade war that could even precede a real war. This was expected; Trump launched a trade war with China during his first term, and the motivations are clear.
What’s far more intriguing are the tariffs against some of America’s allied countries, which, in my opinion, make up a rather unexpected list:
India: 26%
Japan: 24%
EU: 20%
Taiwan: 32%
South Korea: 25%
Israel: 17%
Philippines: 17% (a country hosting U.S. military bases aimed at China)
Meanwhile, countries that didn’t receive tariff increases and stayed at the base 10%, from a global perspective, include:
South American nations: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay — 10%. Panama also 10%.
Oil-rich Middle Eastern countries: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, plus Turkey.
AUKUS members: UK and Australia — even though Trump criticized Australia in a speech, no extra tariffs were added.
Africa: Though likely of little strategic interest to Trump for now.
From this differentiation of tariffs, you can infer how Trump views the U.S.’s global strategic direction—a vision that will likely be pursued further.
Notice the low tariffs for South America. Remember how Rubio, right after taking office, made a diplomatic tour across Latin America—something that hadn’t happened in a century? It seems Trump is aiming to “pull Latin America out of China’s hands” and form a U.S.–Latin American alliance in the Western Hemisphere.
At the same time, clear preferences are being given to those joining new U.S. military alliances, as alternatives to the increasingly hard-to-control NATO.
On the other hand, traditional U.S. allies are out of luck. The economies of the EU, Japan, and South Korea—countries that have money but are not considered crucial allies by Trump—are being treated as revenue sources.
This is especially evident in the EU’s case. According to the “Trump Doctrine”, the main rival to the U.S. is China, and the EU is useless in the fight against China. They won’t go to war over Taiwan, nor will they support a likely sanctions regime against the PRC. So, in Trump’s view, they should simply start paying America in hard currency now, with the long-term plan being further deindustrialization and relocating manufacturing to the U.S…
The tariffs will go into effect between April 5 and 9. Based on past experience, I wouldn’t be surprised if they never actually take effect—maybe they’ll be repealed, suspended, or something else. But if nothing changes and the 20% tariffs on the EU, Japan, and others remain in place long-term, then the so-called “golden age of universal prosperity” will likely become a thing of the past for those nations.
They should tariff Israel a lot more
Who cares what the russo nazis think
Putting tariffs on Norfolk Island and Heard and McDonald Islands are particularly funny considering Heard and McDonald Islands only has penguins living there lol.
Yo this motherfucker put tariffs on Antarctica?!!
Heard Island.jpgOops, wrong one. Still close.
also a 10% tariff on the joint US military base at Diego Garcia …
Lmao wat.
I’d ask if you’re serious, but I’m also sure you are.
Honestly, I was expecting this administration to be mind-numbingly stupid, but somehow they keep finding ways to surpass my expectations on that front on a daily basis. I’d be impressed if it wasn’t so catastrophic.
I saw someone here explain it well… That when you try to understand the depths of the idiocy, you get the same feeling you do when you try to comprehend the size of the universe
Every time I think they’re hiring rock bottom they bring out stronger drills.
That’s a hilariously apt analogy. Drill baby drill! 🫠
from Mastodon: “tariffs by ChatGPT”
I’ve heard that if you type in the right prompt into ChatGPT, this list is the result. They couldn’t even be bothered to have an expert figure this out, or even souble check it before releasing it. So they end up putting tariffs on penguins.
From the article you’re probably referring to:
DCInvestor’s observation came in response to crypto trader Jordan Fish, also known as Cobie, who also asked ChatGPT using the prompt: “What would be an easy way to calculate the tariffs that should be imposed on other countries so that the US is on even playing fields when it comes to trade deficit. Set a minimum of 10%.”
A straightforward (if naïve) method is to set the tariff rate for each trading partner equal to the percentage share of the trade deficit relative to that country’s total imports-always no less than 10%.
In formula form:
Tariff Rate (%) = max(10, (Trade Deficit ÷ Total Imports) x 100)
For example, if the US runs a $20 billion deficit on $100 billion worth of imports from a country, the calculated rate is (20/100)×100 = 20%. If the deficit were only 5%, you’d still impose a 10% floor. This method ignores the intricate dynamics of international trade-such as elasticities, retaliatory measures, and supply chain nuances-but it provides a blunt, proportional rule to “level the playing field.” One might implement it in Python like so:
def calculate_tariff(trade_deficit, total_imports): # Calculate the deficit ratio as a percentage ratio =(trade_deficit / total_imports) * 100 # Enforce a minimum tariff of 10% return max(10, ratio) # Example usage: tariff = calculate_tariff(20e9, 100e9) # $20B deficit on $100B imports yields a 20% tariff print(f"The tariff rate should be {tariff}%")We are defining trade policy with predictive text. What a time to be alive. Jesus tapdancing christ.
The Sociopathic Oligarchs want to assign as much responsibility to AI as possible. Smart people are expensive, AI is cheap. That makes AI the better choice to run the world.
I look forward to building my retirement in a handful of years in the recovery phase of this exercise in abject idiocy (assuming there is, in fact, anything to recover)
well, they can’t even name a single country in ASEAN.
no, “Sean” is not a country in ASEAN. That is incorrect.
Those penguins are trying to rip off America! It’s about time they pay their fair share
penguins like cheetos. i remember that uh… ‘documentary’. we should send 'em a big giant fat one. no charge. just to say ‘sorry’ for imposing the unfair tariffs on their trade.
I’ve never once heard a penguin say thank you.
Those slovenly penguins dont wear suits, either.
The point is to make China the new boot on the throat of the human race instead of the US
no. the US is still the boot
That’s why they installed a Russian asset as president and why he has been destroying the US’s global influence and economy for the last 3 months.
I hate the fact that you are correct.
What the fuck did they expect?
You know what’s fun? Cancelling stuff and citing the reason as ‘tariff-related inflation’. It’s too new and there is no response script yet, so customer service doesn’t really argue.
