No shit. Fuck off joe, you didn’t do shit to stop it,
I don’t think anyone wants to hear from Biden at this point. He by all accounts did his level best to put his ego ahead of the good of the people of the country which did nothing but help further Trump’s talking points.
I want him out there speaking at events, raising money for the campaign trail. They’re off to a great start, honestly, it’s only April 2025 and they’re consistently making nationwide news.
I voted for Harris, I would have voted for Biden again, and I think anybody who doesn’t see the logic in that is incredibly foolish and just in general a disappointment.
Trump would be out of our lives now and forever if enough people understood what was at stake.
Enjoy your Alzheimer’s genocide Joe.
Still? Fucking really? Supporting Palestine is now fucking thought crime, and you’re still saying genocide Joe not genocide Donny? Gtfo.
Trump being worse doesn’t mean Biden didn’t back a genocide. He deserves all the hate and more for being such a monster
Fuck you, Biden. You got us here. YOU did breathtaking damage to the republic, because you and the rest of the non-fascist politicians were so unforgivably out of touch that you lost the fucking republic. Please die and save us your bloviating idiocy.
Millions of DNC voters who didn’t turn in a ballot got us here.
And the Democrats being a shitty party, who keep running shitty candidates is why millions of DNC voters didn’t turn in a ballot
Which was completely stupid in hindsight, wasn’t it?
Running shitty candidates and bad policy? yeah, that was indeed stupid
LOL, tell me you don’t understand how math & a two party FPtP electoral system works without telling me you don’t understand how math and a two party FPtP electoral system works.
I understand how it works perfectly. Parties that fight against war, genocide, and the rich don’t get elected because the two parties keep them off the ballot.
It’s always amazing to me that people blame the voters for the state of things, instead of blaming the people with the money, the power, and the platform, who explicitly went against what the voters said they wanted.
I do blame the people that decided to not vote, regardless of whatever silly reason they tell themselves to rationalize it. Choosing to do nothing is a choice & that choice elected a fascist.
Voting is a chess move not a love letter.
But you certainly don’t understand that.
The biggest complaints I hear about the DNC as a whole is they don’t do enough, and yeah no shit because Republicans have outnumbered them in the senate since 2013 and we only barely picked majority with caucusing independents.
People are upset with democrats because they are out played at every step of the game.
Take Biden’s approach to student loans. Given unilateral power to abolish and modify student loan debt, they announced it months in advance, giving time for court cases to stall the order. Court cases that were taken to a court they know was stacked against them by the rules broken by previous republicans. So it amounted to nothing. Reinstating debt is tangible harder to do, and given unilateral powers to do so, Biden chose to ignore those and set himself up for failure.
To see where this failure to recognize the political moment we are in leads, he failed to pick someone to imprison Trump for treason after Jan 6.
If you want the democrats to do better, then vote for more of them. Simple as.
Even if you don’t feel represented on a specific issue, the DNC are the party to reverse citizens united, tax the rich, and promote fair and open elections.
Pick DNC now so you can choose somebody better later.
Why would I want to encourage the Democrats shitty behaviour? Voting for more of them tells them “yes, I want you to keep backing down on everything you promsed”, which I don’t want.
Even if you don’t feel represented on a specific issue, the DNC are the party to reverse citizens united, tax the rich, and promote fair and open elections.
No, those are the things they talk about doing, but as soon as they have the power, suddenly they are too busy focusing on perpetuating wars, bailing out their rich friends, and fighting against fair elections to get any of those things done
They literally already took money out of politics from 2003 to 2010. That’s what Citizens United means, it’s the court case that put money back in politics. Every DNC politician talks about overturning it but they need a SCOTUS majority or 60 Senators to do it. DNC would be taxing the rich right now as the GOP tax plan expires next year, but stupid assholes let a GOP majority in to write the new one just like they did in 2017. If you really don’t think the DNC expands ballot access and promotes fair districting, then clearly you haven’t been watching anything going on around you.
The DNC haven’t had 60 senators since 1979. Try it first, then tell me it doesn’t work.
Why didn’t Trump get put in prison after Jan 6? Democrats had the power to do it, why didn’t they?
Trump would have if tens of millions of assholes didn’t reelect him.
If that’s the biggest complaint you hear, then I feel like you should broaden your reading list.
How about:
- Backing a genocide
- Backing a rapist who bombed children as a presidental candidate
- Telling people the economy is actually really good, when it clearly isn’t
- Supporting campaigns like Trump’s
- Pretending to care about things like health care, student debt, foreign wars, the housing crisis, then getting into office (with a majority), and doing jack-shit about them. Sometimes even exacerbating them
Those are all just to start
The single state solution that the current admin supports is Genocide. Before that we had a confused old man withholding purchased weapons, building a pier to distribute aid, and swearing over the phone about the consequences of attacking Rafah. Anybody who advocates against the DNC because of Israel-Palestine conflict is beyond disingenuous, you should move that to the bottom of your list to at least have some semblance of credibility.
The DNC were surprised by the Trump candidacy and you say otherwise twice on your list.
Biden was good for the economy with workers rights, wages, and public investment all increasing dramatically.
Everything else you mentioned they try constantly but can’t do much without 60 in the senate.
The single state solution that the current admin supports is Genocide.
Yeah, I never said otherwise. I’m not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?
Before that we had a confused old man withholding purchased weapons, building a pier to distribute aid, and swearing over the phone about the consequences of attacking Rafah.
You mean the child-killing, rapist and genocidist? Yeah, I saw him make a token effort with the bridge, that didn’t really help. I saw him make a few red-lines that were crossed, and his response was to send a buch more weapons to help out with the genocide.
Anybody who advocates against the DNC because of Israel-Palestine conflict is beyond disingenuous, you should move that to the bottom of your list to at least have some semblance of credibility.
I don’t see how this follows. I can be against the DNC supporting a genocide, while also being against Trump for supporting a genocide. In fact, it’s pretty easy to just universally be against genocide, no matter who is backing it.
The DNC were surprised by the Trump candidacy and you say otherwise twice on your list.
I never said they weren’t supprised by it, I said they supported it, which they did. Clinton pushed for Trump because she thought it would be an easy win.
Biden was good for the economy with workers rights, wages, and public investment all increasing dramatically.
No he wasn’t. He was good with making his rich friends richer, but housing, wages, education, medical-care, got worse. His economy was only good if you focus on the rich and ignored the working class and poor. He also shot-down the rail-workers strike when an actual pro-union president would have supported it.
Everything else you mentioned they try constantly but can’t do much without 60 in the senate.
The Dems always say that they can’t do anything, even with a majority, because the Republicans will block them. But once the Republicans have a majority, the Dems sure can’t seem to block them back. So which is it? Does having a majority allow you to do what you want? or can you still be blocked? It’s almost like politicians are liars, who are willing to sucker people in for votes, then toss them aside whenever it’s convenient
Yeah, I never said otherwise. I’m not sure what you mean by this, can you explain?
The Biden Admin was not a single state advocate.
The Dems always say that they can’t do anything, even with a majority, because the Republicans will block them. But once the Republicans have a majority, the Dems sure can’t seem to block them back. So which is it?
The only noteworthy bill in recent memory was the budget bill which can be filibustered but doing so is purely symbolic as budget bills qualify for passing via house reconciliation. On top of that, I already mentioned even when caucusing independents and VP 50:50 tiebreaker let DNC pick majority leader they have been outnumbered in the senate for over a decade and counting. Are you referring to some other bill? Or are you just disingenuous full of shit?
Two things can be true at the same time.
Yes: the people who were so fucking sick of the status quo that they refused to vote do carry a large share of the blame here.
But the DNC is ABSOLUTELY guilty of perpetuating that caustic status quo in the face of clear public desire for change, because they were mostly too interested in the money machine they were a part of.
He must watch Seinfeld
No shit, Joe! Your insistence on holding into power when it was clear that’s not what the people wanted enabled this. Your legacy will forever be tarnished by your inability to accept reality before it was too late.
Nonetheless, the problem lies in the system. If 1/3 is for, 1/3 is against, and 1/3 don’t vote, there’s something wrong. And there is, and a specific party has been doing voter supression for a decade and more. Why has this been allowed?
Who cares what that guy thinks? He’s a distant memory.
But he’s most likely right
Oh, no doubt. But why I would care about his opinion is a mystery. Like, I’m not asking Hilary for her take on the orange. I can formulate my own ideas without these loser also-rans.
The more people who have an audience and in a higher power, the better the chances of taking things back under control. You don’t have to listen to AOC, but we need her to help rally troops.
AOC actually has the publics interest (at least seems like it) at heart and has a future in politics. Biden just wanted to preserve the status quo and him and those in his age group who refused to retire are the direct cause of current events
Who cares what you think?
Just me and my partner.
Wasn’t he he some kind of politician?
Like a councilor maybe sometime during the Vietnam War?I think he was some ice cream mascot they canned for sniffing kids or something.
Maybe the people on social security should stop voting for rapists/terrorists/felons/morons…?
Drumpf said he didn’t care about you. He SAID IT. Yet you still voted for him because you’re a stupid PoS. 🤷♀️
I’ve been told since it’s not ok the books as a law it’s just words and we should feel and think he doesn’t care about anyone.
Yeah but men wearing skirts makes them feel uncomfortable so killing minorities is sadly more important than a functioning society.
Interesting, so how did they feel when Elon did the “Roman salute”? Romans basically walked around in skirts as well…
Ah well, I think reason left the US long ago.
Yeah but who are you going to believe?
The guy who said it
Or the guy on Facebook who said he didn’t mean it?
Thanks for everything Joe!
Hey at least the one and only time he went low and broke decorum was so he could pardon his own son. And the other 1200 people a week later when he realized how bad the optics were.
And just to get ahead of those people. I’m not necessarily mad he pardoned his son. I’m mad there only time he broke decorum was for his own personal interests and not the American people’s.
That’s what makes me mad, too. That and the genocide.
One official act during the debate and you could have prevented all this Joe.
It didn’t even have to be official. He’s old enough he would have died of old age before seeing jail time.
Yeah dude, and I’m sure “he was going to win and build concentration camps within 3 months, I swear!” would totally have been a sufficient explanation for everyone.
People on this site are so fucking dumb, I swear.
He doesn’t need to explain. Whatever he did wouldn’t have been illegal if it was an official act. Also Trump is demonstrably a fucking traitor so he could have used that as justification.
Oh I’m sure the Supreme Court would have smacked that down if it was a Dem.
Well we’re not so sure presidents even have to listen to the supreme court now are we?
We were pretty sure right up until one didn’t.
Trump is dead set on making sure that only one thing can a stop him. No one should be surprised when it happens.
And the American citizens (especially the ones who hate Biden with a passion, and already stormed the Capitol once) would totally be fine with Democrats assassinating political opponents on live television.
For Christ sake, who upvotes this shit???
Please tell me it’s just like one dude with 10 alt accounts…
Doesn’t matter what they’re fine with. Biden had a blank check to deal with them however he saw fit if they tried something. They were at least actually traitors unlike the people Trump is persecuting.
It does matter when you’re on the left, because others on the left will hold you accountable.
You live in a fucking dream world. The fact that you honestly believe that Joe Biden could (and should) have assassinated the cult leader Donald Trump on live television, and life in the US would just continue on like normal, means you’re the stupidest fucking person I’ve ever encountered.
You live in a fucking dream world. The fact that you honestly believe that Joe Biden could (and should) have assassinated the cult leader Donald Trump on live television, and life in the US would just continue on like normal, means you’re the stupidest fucking person I’ve ever encountered.
I never said things would continue on like normal. It would have just escalated the situation into what is currently happening now except with Biden in power instead so we’re not all getting fucked. Better that the abusive tyrant be on your side than the other way around. He can run wild until they get their shit together enough to stop him and put safeguards in place to prevent it from happening again in the future (from either side) but the damage is done to the MAGAs instead of the innocent people Trump is targeting and everyone gets a good life lesson about why this “it’s legal as long as it’s an offical act” thing isn’t a great idea.
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all Americans… they all
Trump won with less than 30% of the population’s vote. And even now, he only has an ~30% approval rating. It certainly isn’t “all” Americans. It isn’t even “most” Americans. But sure, speaking about an entire country as a single monolith makes the circlejerk easy.
I’ll agree it’s not all. However I’ll say that the people who voted for him and the people who didn’t vote at all are the majority, therefore most.
You can’t just blame the orange ferret and his fans. You must also blame the people who could’ve voted against him but chose not to.
He won with less than 30% of the populations vote because most Americans decided facism wasn’t that bad so they stayed home. People who didn’t vote for Harris or encouraged others not to vote for Harris looked at what Trump was selling and decided they’d like to buy.
No, they looked at what Harris was selling, and were justifiably disgusted. I voted against Trump, who is a monsterous PoS, but lets not pretend that Harris was a good candidate.
Don’t forget the hundreds of bomb threats against voting locations in blue districts. Or the hundreds of thousands of voters that were de-registered without their knowledge. Or the fact that getting an ID can take up to 6 months, even for a renewal. Or that voting locations were redistributed out of blue cities and into red suburbs.
I’m not sure I buy that teh election was stolen with rigged tabulation. But millions of votes were suppressed, especially in swing states.
Half the country beleives their vote doesn’t matter, and based on the data it doesn’t.
I voted because I like the illusion of activism it provides like everyone else, but I know my vote isn’t counted and doesn’t matter. So I can’t blame people when they say they don’t care enough to vote.
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And the fact he was about 37 felonies under his belt? And led to insurrection. And it is his SECOND term. And he has made threats against his own people and the world.
You’re preaching to the choir. You don’t need to try and convince me he’s an asshole. At best, that entire paragraph is just whataboutism.
But most of the country didn’t vote him in?
Correct.
You had ample time to deal with your dirty laundry.
And it’s clear that the people who were supposed to be in charge of doing that only put up a token effort to do so, to keep the public placated long enough for the next election cycle. There are a lot of Americans who were (and still are) deeply angry at the way the entire investigation was handled. And even more who are frustrated at the fact that the system’s checks and balances only work when congress is willing to actually use them.
You take responsibility and fix your shit. Till then. Yeah, the US IS a giant monolith of hatred, anger and aggression.
In case you weren’t aware, the vast majority of America is only one or two missed paychecks away from homelessness, and enacting real change would require a massive effort (and create a lot of new homeless people) because it’s not Europe where you can just roll up to the capitol building on a weekend trip. Imagine if you were in Naples, and had to travel all the way to Madrid to protest your own government. Now imagine you have zero funds for a plane or train ticket, and need to drive the entire way. It’s a ~20 hour drive, which you’d inevitably need to take over the course of several days.
That’s essentially a full work week for the round trip, and it’s less than many Americans would need to travel to get to DC. And you think they’d get paid time off work approved for that? No, they’d get fired for missing an entire week of work. And that’s assuming they’re even able to return to work afterwards; Hopefully they avoided getting maimed, crippled, and/or arrested by police during the protest.
If anything, the US is a giant monolith of poverty and struggling individuals, with a thin veneer of manufactured exceptionalism keeping it from completely unraveling. The only Americans able to exert international pressure are the billionaires who have been robbing the proletariat blind for decades, and the lawmakers who are in the billionaires’ pockets.
PS: literally the dumbest use of quotes I’ve ever seen lmao
If you have to resort to insulting someone’s grammar on the internet, you’ve already lost the argument.
Whatever dude. Biden can go lick a light socket for all I care. He knew this shit would happen and did absolutely nothing about it for 4 years then when it came time to let Kamala run he fucked her over on his way out and condemned us to this.
There must be better words to describe this, joe. Try again
No. Don’t try again, Joe. Why don’t you go outside, and play Hide and Go Fuck Yourself instead?
Centrists: “WHERE IS BIDEN!? WHY ISN’T HE DOING ANYTHING!?”
Biden: *actively working with DNC on fundraising, speaks at an event which makes headlines
Centrists: “GO AWAY YOU OLD BASTARD!!!``11~!”
Biden appointed a Republican to attorney general who then slow walked Trump’s criminal charges. Fuck Biden.
Says the guy from the party who made decisions that led to Trump getting elected.
