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      David Hogg (Parkland Massacre survivor, and a loud anti-MAGA voice) is now a vice chair of the DNC, and he is calling for investing $20 million in primarying weak Democratic incumbents. I hope one of those is my Dem congressional rep, who is a useless weenie.

      He’s starting to show up on political talk shows, and he is a very smart, impressive, charismatic, COURAGEOUS young man, who is determined to change the Democratic party from within. He is scaring the shit out of the old established cowards.

      We need to support him, and the rest of the new rising segment of young progressives like AOC, Frost, Crockett, etc., and those they inspire.

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          By threatening to primary weak incumbents? Its EXACTLY what the Republicans do to keep their cowardly people in line. HitlerPig threatens to primary his incumbents all the time, and it’s very effective in keeping them from listening to their consciences and going rogue.

          One of the worst things about the Democrats is trying to herd the cats. Stealing effective strategies from the Reoublicans is an excellent idea to focus them so they can effectively fight back against the MAGA Nazis. And also get rid of weak losers like my congressman. I hope he’s on the list.

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              Ah, the Michelle Obama Doctrine - “When they go low, we go high.” That sort of cowardly strategy is what brought us here. The real doctine should be “When they go low, we kick them in the teeth, really, really hard.”

              We don’t have to lie, cheat, and steal like Republicans, we just have to play Hard Ball, like they do. They exploit every opportunity and loophole they find, and there is no reason Democrats can’t do the same thing. If we had done that during the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations, we wouldnt be in this fix right now. In fact, if we had done it earlier, Bush wouldn’t even have been president, and we would have had continuous Democratic leadership since 1992.

              When Biden was inaugurated, he should have rounded up HitlerPig and his henchmen and sent them to Gitmo for extended interrogation. Instead he appointed a Republican as AG, who dithered and slow walked HitlerPig’s obvious treason, giving him a 2 year head start on successfully running out the clock.

              When HitlerPig was inaugurated, they launched a blitzkrieg attack on the entire nation, and here we are.

              IF we get another chance, we have to react with the same bold action, and crush MAGA, and mercilessly purge them from existence. We cant just go back to the same old Democratic weakness, led by weenies like Schumer, Jeffries, Biden, Obama, etc. People like Hogg and AOC are our future, if we want to continue to exist as anything more than a puppet state for Sociopathic Oligarchs.

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                  I agree, and I dont advocate for copying most of their unethical, illegal, and unconstitutional methods. But if something works, without stepping over that line, we should definitely adopt it. We shouldn’t limit our selves from successful options just because Reps did it first. Democrats are way too good at shooting themselves in the foot that way.

                  Telling insipid weenie Dems that they better pick up their game or we’ll find someone who will, should not be off the table simply because Reps employ it. Thats just good politics that strengthens your party.

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        It was a sufficient majority to do everything democrats said they wanted to do. Instead of using it, they got in their own way and broke their promises, secure in the knowledge that they have people like you to make excuses for them.

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      Wasn’t the patriot act only opposed by like 1 senator? Our govt has long either supported or sympathized with authoritarians

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        Any vote with that kind of bipartisan support is a sure sign the ruling class are fucking us over.

        Incidentally, that near-unanimous vote came soon after Senators and Congresspeople had been receiving letters with anthrax in them. And that crime has never been solved. (Hint: it was probably instigated by Cheney).

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    Well, unless the Dem voters quit expecting their reps to do something about the situation, it’s not gonna change.

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    Unfortunately the democrats are made up of assholes like Pelosi and Schumer who are just there to get rich.

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    If this is the mentality you’re gonna approach this situation with, you’re cooked. The demented orange asshole is already building a dictatorship and democrats barely give a shit. “Fearing the consequences” isn’t something they do because there are no consequences as we’ve seen multiple times. You gotta make them fear for their lives. And you gotta give people a real alternative to the oligarchy that is the US.

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      because there are no consequences as we’ve seen multiple times

      Dictators never face consequences until they do.

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            During the last election it was all “now is not the time to change course.”

            Well now we have over three years to re-tool the Democratic party into something that can win. But we still have people saying “Nooo we actually need Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these useless benchwarmers to win.”

            No we fucking don’t. There is plenty of time to make change. Unless you don’t actually want change from these conservatives in all but name.

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              “Nooo we actually need Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these useless benchwarmers to win.”

              No one is saying this. It’s more like “Voters have not been voting for progressives. If democrats primary more progressives, democrats will lose elections as much as progressives do. We can’t afford to do that against Trump.”

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                When potential voters are polled on their view of progressive policies, they support them. It’s only when they’re labeled as Democratic Party policies that they lose.

                Draw your own conclusions about whta the Democratic Party is contributing.

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                “Voters have not been voting for progressives."

                What this actually means is “we have not allowed the voters any progressives to cast votes for”. The people who really most care about voting for progressives are doing so, and are voting third party. This is by design. If the DNC fielded any actual progressives they’d likely receive such a flood of record voter turnout that the Dems would then have their hands forced into actually accomplishing something to the detriment of their campaign donors. This can’t be allowed to happen because then the money faucet turns off. They’ve been controlled opposition, running on a platform of “at least I’m not that guy”, for as long as I’ve been alive and I can only assume several decades prior. The momentum of the two-party system blocking out viable third party candidates is what safely allows this for them.

                Implement ranked choice voting now and we can rip this entire ugly weed up by the roots. Making the two-party megalith vulnerable will light a whole lot of fires underneath a whole lot of asses in the existing structure, as well as actually enable more than two political parties to exist in America.

                Unfortunately this change must come from the bottom up, because the DNC from the top down benefits from the status quo and won’t shoot themselves in the foot with this. This can’t happen until a suitable number of leftist/independent/third-party representatives are already elected for local and state office to successfully make the push for this in congress, which puts us in a fine catch-22 where we probably need RCV in order to elect independents but we probably need to elect independents to implement RCV.

                I hate it here.

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              It was a combination of foreign election influence, billionaire class and GOP propaganda. And in the end Trump won by 1.5%.

              Democrats can only do what the voters allow them to do. All the groups I mention above are actively trying to stop them.

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                Democrats can only do what the voters allow them to do.

                We gave them the means in 2020. They didn’t use it.

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            Don’t talk trash about the party willing to compromise with fascists on the open-source federated social network. You might make someone think communism is a good idea.

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          sure is, because god knows the centrist dems havent learned a single thing from their loss and will play the same losing strategy they always do next election.

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        Voters: “Please stop funding a genocidal regime”

        Dems: “Nah, we’re going to stay the course. And how dare you speak out against it!”

        Yes, Trump has been harder on anti-genocide protestors, but it definitely started under Biden’s term.

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        TBH the way these posts keep popping up with everyone shitting on dems makes me think it’s a huge bot farm.

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          It definitely looks like that.

          I see the same accounts posting and interacting with each other and reposting the same content with the same comments.

          Pretty sus

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        Harris throwing the election by promising to continue Bidens war crimes is how trump got a second term.

        This silly narrative you like to push that progressives, muslims, youth, and almost every single other demographic of the dem base just didnt show up because they are irresponsible – that was always a self indulgent and victim blaming tantrum on your part. All these months later you are still at it. Harris could have chosen to win that election by acknowledging the genocide about 2 weeks before the general. She chose not to do that. No one made her choose that, she did it.

        If she was any kind of leader she would have been backing away from the war crimes her supposed “allies” were doing, but she chose to try to keep them as a dem ATM long term. That was idiotic and unprincipled of her and now we all get to pay for her lack of dignity, lack of planning, and lack of foresight. She’s the candidate, she was in charge. She lost.

        Your incessant sniveling and trolling will change none of that, so why do you bother everyone with it for months? Tiresome, bro. Tiresome.

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    Well so far they’ve been holding signs in congress… that’s a very effective way in fact I remember the first pustch attempted by Hitler was entirely halted by mild mannered people holding signs.

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    Seeing the negative and know-it-all comments on this thread is depressing. Maybe some of you need to just go back to pondering which Linux distribution to use and leave the hopium posts for the optimists.