Well that’s some fucking bullshit.
i mean if i had a specific nintendo console for pirated games, i wouldn’t connect it to the internet
That corporation is still stuck in 1985 or 1989 (otherwise stuck in the Showa Era), trying to keep absolute control of anything it made.
The 1980s were before the DMCA. In those days if you bought an expensive piece of electronics both seller and buyer expected that you owned it.
Ah. So now we’re merely ‘licensing’ physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?
You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.
Afaik not in Europe. But the details are probably messy.
Always has been unless you count modding to remove this kind of shitty DRM.
Nintendo was the company to popularize DRM in home consoles with the US release of the NES. The Famicom had no DRM even though it was identical hardware otherwise (well, that, the RF modulator, and the PCB layout).
I don’t seem how threatening to brick a device is intended to help you sell more of them. Like I was seriously considering buying a Switch 2 even recently, but this is really the nail in the coffin. Why should I pay money for something that could stop working on their whims? Because it’s not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.
Because it’s not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.
This is the part that really frustrates me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of the wording here. Account ban? Sure, against TOS, etc. But affecting the device is a whole other story. Especially when prior account bans have come under dubious circumstances.
youre not the exploitable target audience.
like legit 100% evil intent, cant even argue against that
The target audience still goes online. Generally Facebook and mumsnet. Wait til it happens to one of them and the stories go round like wildfire.
With that market, especially at big luxury prices like a console, you exist solely on good faith.
you dont see the whole “children of rich western parents really dont care” audience?
They won’t give the first shit about piracy policies or anything like that, but they’ll care that MummyD123s DH bought their DD an electric brick that won’t keep them quiet any more.
why would it brick
Do you not realize what thread you’re commenting in?
what nintendo child will do that is my question, the third time.
idk if im missing something or you all repeat the same bit in hopes of something…
As part of a severe response to unauthorised use
same comment of mine here: what nintendo child will do that is my question
I’ve recently decided to complete all the games we’ve bought on our family Switch before allowing myself to get a Steam Deck alongside my Ps5.
While Nintendo has some very good games, I think I’ll never buy again from them.
Just fyi, I believe Sony has stated the same right as well.
The reason this is in legalese is because of the possibility of online cheating.
I don’t agree with it, I’m just saying the
excusereasoning console corporations give.Anyway, it’s illegal to do that in the EU anyway.
It’s not fair, but I give a pass to Sony as their games are more my type and I’ve always used Sony consoles a lot.
Sony ain’t probably better than Nintendo as a conpany, that’s also why I’m extendibg my reach with Steam Deck gaming in the future.
Everything is about “online cheating” it’s the think of the children!! of the gaming world
I’d like to say their legalese is written in a way that covers more ground in the US, the most litigious country in the world. I would imagine if this was taken to court, their lawyers would argue that “permanently unusable in whole or in part” includes a console serial ban from NSO, or argue that it’s the user’s fault for bricking the console when they attempted to mod it, and Nintendo is therefore not liable or obligated to fix it.
But between the UK-ToS and US-ToS, Nintendo just straight up tells Americans that they themselves are going to break your damn console if you do a thing they don’t like. That is absolutely dystopian.
Can’t wait for Yuzu 2 to come out.
Apparently Torzo exists already!
Also knowing how butthurt Nintendo is rn it probably means Switch 2 is vulnerable to emulation so not that long probably.
They can “reserve the right” all they want, that’s illegal where I live, and they sell their devices officially here. I’d love to see them trying to hold this stance in court - even Apple lost here over a similar issue, so go right ahead and try.
I don’t see how this is different from any other company. Xbox has forever done the same. I’m pretty sure Sony has too
Hilarious that this comment is so far down, Lemmy can be such a circlejerk.
Sony and Xbox absolutely reserve the right to brick your console. IIRC Sony bricks stolen Playstation consoles if they ever connect to the internet. This is nothing new.
Yeah the Nintendo vitriol for the past month has been funny. I get it, companies are not our friends, and Nintendo has done a lot of shit to be mad at. The game keycards are dogwater, but this concept of buy cartridge and download the rest is not new. Sony and Xbox have literally done the same shit for years, and Nintendo did this with some large games on Switch 1.
Another comment showed Sony will brick hacked consoles that get on the internet. Switch 1 also does this.
The price sucks, but it’s definitely tariffs, since the console is like a whole hundred dollars cheaper in Japan.
If you wanna pirate/emulate, pirate/emulate. I just don’t like pirating current gen consoles, and it’s a hassle to do so on Switch 1 if you got a newer one. Plus switch emulation on steam deck seems to be iffy for some games… I pirate/emulate old consoles cause they’re dead and they’re not making money on them anyway. Sometimes you just want to buy a game and enjoy them, especially for online ones like Splatoon.
I’ll just wait for the price to be reasonable one day.
I don’t see why I should be okay with that either.
Microsoft and Sony don’t brick your console if you hacked it; they’ll ban you from online services and possibly deny any warranty claims if you bricked it yourself by mistake, but they don’t make your device a paper weight.
Sony may not do it, the same way Nintendo might not do it either, but both reserve the right to do so
Edit: If you take a look at the PLAYSTATION®5 SYSTEM SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT under “6. VIOLATION OF AGREEMENT; TERMINATION OF RIGHTS AND SIE INC REMEDIES”, one of the possible actions they may take states:
disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline
At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn’t seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.
It’s a nice thought, at least.
With the price of software it will be interesting to see how it goes. I think they jumped the gun a bit hard on that one and will have to backpedal.
i kind of want the steam deck to eat the switch and i really don’t have a dog in the fight
A steam deck lite would probably dominate, lol
Cool! Time to go to the sea for more nintendo stuff! Good think you cant brick a device you dont have control over 😘
Pretty sure that’s illegal in most parts of Europe. Checking the article it says that the policy has only been updated in the UK and the US.
Sucks to be a country without adequate consumer protection, I guess.
I’m pretty sure it’ll turn out to be illegal in the UK too, it’s just that the UK isn’t in Europe anymore so these things always end up having to get hashed out in the courts and then it always turns out that the UK basically just follows the EU standard anyway.
i can’t wait to pirate their new switch 2 games 🥰 its gonna be awesome.
