Yo, fuck this guy - pivoting to the right? Fuck off.
Pivoting?
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Jesus , this guy looking to join Trump’s team?
I came here to say this sounds like something Trump or DeSantis would do. Disappointing it is Newsome. We need leaders with solutions, not bigger prisons. (I’m not sure what I would do, but I’m also not the Gov of California hoping to be in the Dem shortlist in 2028).
I’m trying wrap my head around the possibility of voting for Newsome just to keep whoever the Nazis nominate is really painful.
I already did it for Harris, Biden, and Clinton.
I mean, they’ve been trying other solutions and they obviously haven’t been working. Citizens don’t like living near these and this issue is rallying people to the right. I get that banning and sweeping sucks and is just moving people around, but if that ends up moving people from a highly visible area to a less visible area then it can go a long way for local businesses and tourism.
So hide the icky poor’s away so people with money don’t get bad feelings when they go on vacation and businesses can make more money. How very humanitarian of you.
Welcome to how the world works. Citizens like clean places to live
And you don’t even notice that you only include one group in “citizens”.
Would you like to know more?
Sounds like you’re insinuating that my viewpoint is homeless people are not citizens which is just not what I said.
his ex; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhFks_9faQY
his current wife; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Siebel_Newsom
Siebel Newsom was registered as a Republican until 2008, before re-registering as No Party Preference. Prior to registering as an independent voter, she accidentally registered with the far-right American Independent Party, before correcting her party to “decline to state”.
I think yes, yes he is.
I’m very liberal on 95% of issues, but if there is one issue I lean conservative it’s homelessness. I want them to get the help they need, I support programs to help them, but I do not want to see a homeless encampment s take over public parks or other areas. I don’t want the trash and safety issues near where I live and near my family.
I know this will get me dumped on my the ultra leftists here, but I didn’t think my feelings are unreasonable.
So you’re liberal until it inconveniences you?
How about instead of outlawing homelessness, we created a housing system for them. Then we can talk about moving them out of parks.
Banning homelessness doesn’t give people a place to stay. It’s criminalizing being poor.
It’s also a tragedy-of-the-commons type issue. Nobody else can use the park if they are camping there. There are legitimate safety concerns due to the mental health and drug issues that are prevalent in the homeless. To pretend these aren’t real issues is stupid.
I’m being honest here. This is an issue that is a challenge to solve, but I still don’t want a bunch of homeless people in my neighborhood. I’d like to find a solution and I’m not afraid of my tax money is going to help them, but tent encampments are not the solution IMHO…
You want them to get the help they need, that’s the opposite of conservative even without the support for programs.
Your feelings are unreasonable. Banning homeless encampments is criminalization of existing in public for people who do not have anywhere else to go. Homeless people are not a danger to you, rather they are some of the most vulnerable people in our society - and people don’t want them to be able to sleep, or cook or eat, or anything in public. Where do you want them to go? Shelters do not have room for everyone and are a massive risk for people that do make it in.
California is a garden of Eden,
A paradise to live in or see
but believe it or not
you won’t find it so hot
if you ain’t got the doe ray me.
Sweep all problems under the carpet instead of trying to solve the root problem.
He has tried nothing useful and is all out of ideas.
I don’t think the first part is true but unfortunately I agree on the second part. The west Coast in general has been struggling with this for a while and the compassionate approach hasn’t shown the promised results. Maybe it technically is, but visible homelessness is what gets people elected.
The solution is so simple. Its two pronged. Get them a place to live. Help them with their problems. Its what happened in this country until a republican took apart the system that was designed to do that. It had its problems but the solution shouldn’t have been the abandonment of the national mental health system. This homeless problem is 100 percent tied directly to the utter failure of all politicians who ever supported cuts to the mental health system.
The reason they do it is also simple. They are terrified that everyone will know how bad they are on the inside. Not realizing that most of us already know.
Honestly you lost me at the first sentence. It’s very obviously a complex problem and to suggest it’s simple is just demoralizing to the dedicated civil servants that work so hard to fix it.
And homelessness has always been a problem, I feel like generally people fall into this rosy recollection to a time where it was far harder to document it
Honestly you lost me at the first sentence.
You seem to think that matters. It isn’t complex. Its simple. The solutions are simple. By trying to over think the solution you lose sight of the goal. You are commenting without really knowing the history of this subject. Homelessness is a epidemic now due in full to the destruction of the public mental health system. I know this and nothing anyone says will change that. I watched for years as every time my states budget came up they cut the funding.
I watched as those I worked with had to make do with less. I watched people who were getting help to keep them stable lose coverage. The people who would have been institutionalized before the 80’s were let loose onto the streets. Frankly the complete lack of understanding is the problem we have with the current sad state of events. Coupled with the outright fear many of the worst minds in our society have for mental health in general its lead us to this path and denying that just guarantees the problem will not be solved. Those minds gravitate toward power. They hone their masks to cover their true nature and get fools to vote for them. They cast blame and over complicate a rather simple matter as far as solutions are concerned. They fear exposure more than anything and think what they are doing is the best thing for them. Not for those fools who vote for them. Just for them.
Don’t perpetuate the lie that the homeless situation is complex. Its simple. The people who are victims of it are complex but helping them isn’t.
Yeah TBH I actually agree with a lot of your points but I still feel like you’re over simplifying this. The pre 1980s mental health institution had a whole other set of problems as well.
He setup the conditions for San Francisco to actually do this. He just wants more cities to do it now.
Ladies and Gentlemen, our 48th President (whether we want him or not)…
Not going to happen. Not because the conservative Democrats won’t be able to hoodwink enough primary voters to believe the highest priority is accommodating what they think their shittiest neighbor could (but will not) tolerate, but because in doing so they’ll lose the voters they actually need to win and Don Jr. will ascend to the throne.
You are overlooking the most valuable thing that Newsom has, that makes him even more qualified to earn enough votes to win: a penis.
Unfortunately, if you don’t have one, you can’t get elected right now.
Lol.
Surely banning homeless encampments will solve the homelessness problem.
Next, we should ban heart disease and cancer…
It’s harder to work in the mines with those
Nah, let’s just keep it the way it is and keep the poors illegal, I mean, I feel bad for people with heart disease, if they have health insurance.
- Create for profit prisons tantamount to slavery
- Make homelessness illegal
- Destroy the economy and make everybody homeless
- PROFIT
If you want to get rid of homeless encampments, how about making sure people have a safe place to stay at night?
we need the infrastructure for the unhoused to be housed. where does he expect the homeless to go?
Next up in 2025, the resurgence of the Hooverville
Trump Towns… Donaldvilles…
Prison
Crazy how California is speed-running a transition from liberal to left to Authoritarian almost as fast as the Federal government is transitioning from conservative to right to Fascism.
What other examples can you give? As a California resident I think your comment is bullshit.
Newsom was always a slimy neolib. He was just the lesser evil. The same story plays out constantly all over the US thanks to our broken two-right-wing-parties system, in which both parties are owned and operated by self-serving billionaires.
Crazy how fast the internet turns. A few months ago? Everyone loved him for not letting trump do the ego handshakes. Now everyone calls him weird.
It’s just so weird that people of a certain mindset and philosophy would praise something they approved of in line with that mindset and condemn something they didn’t in line with that mindset.
So - when did Newson have a Fetterman-like stroke?
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When he realized he could get a bunch of money capitulating to and sane washing hard right wingers with a podcast.
I hope he has one that is substantially worse
