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Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
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Bye, then!
I always love the cognitive dissonance people have seeing others hope that a man directly responsible for a metric ton of civilian deaths, succumbing to a painful death, is not ethically correct.
I mean people seem to have zero issue with United Healthcare. Exorbitant Healthcare costs is the equivalent of death, but literally bombing hospitals and refugee camps isn’t?
Not to mention that he’ll be receiving the latest and greatest in medical aid anyway, so there’s a fair chance he’ll survive. A lot of geriatric asshat world leaders contracted covid and still lived.
I can’t even tell if this is DNC shilling because several people have implied they would treat Trump the same. Wth kind of moral compass are yall following lol?
Crazy, my dad was just diagnosed with the same cancer a few days ago. Not as aggressive, but on the higher end of the Gleason score. Hoping biden continues to live a long and healthy life
I hope your dad lives a long healthy life. Biden’s already lived a long one.
God had mercy on this genocidal war criminal by giving him a portion of his punishment on earth
I wish Joe well. Terrible thing to have to deal with.
With all the best doctors the presidents have, they discover it only at the fourth stage?
I’m a lowly peasant and my work let me do a yearly blood+pee test, I assumed that for presidents it would be something like a weekly checkup
It could have developed between regular prostate
massagesexams.
It’s likely that they knew a long time ago but they are just now announcing it. This would probably also explain why he was so mentally foggy or, seeming like he had dementia. Many cancer drug drugs can do that toyou.
So glad he wanted to run for a second term then, especially after promising to be a one term president. /sarcasm
He never promised. We lost when he won the 2020 primary
Compared to Trump winning? Which was the only viable other option during that term.
Viable!?! Given Biden only really won because of Covid, I think Bernie would’ve actually had a shot in the general, especially in energizing the base and working class. Warren could’ve also stood a better chance, even if she might not have done as great of a job in office.
Biden was the worst choice, I thought Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and especially Harris in 2020 were far better, but the capitalist elites wanted a weak old man, so we got Biden, dooming us for 2024 because there was no way he’d be selfless enough to step aside. He might’ve said he’d be one term, but he was lying and that’s why no one took him seriously.
I mean, Biden is quoted as calling it a campaign promise.
Which is is less binding than a pinky promise, but in 2024, he at least saw that he had made the commitment in 2020. Plenty of people in 2024 then were also incorrectly saying that Biden didn’t make that promise.
I remember the promise and I also remember thinking “why the fuck are you even running if you won’t for a second term”
Exactly; it was always a lie that couldn’t be taken seriously
If that’s the case he was even more wrong about running than everyone assumed.
Somebody had to step up and save us from Bernie Sanders
Not even a funny joke.
When all the joy in life is gone, I’ll take any joke that eeks just a little bit of dopamine out of my brain.
… yeah, I feel that bud.
I’d assume that played a huge role in him choosing to step down.
That makes it worse not better…
This was exactly my first thought.
And if so, that’s a double “fuck you” to Joe and everyone on his staff trying to keep this shit under wraps.
He should have just resigned the goddamn Presidency when he was first diagnosed JFC
Yeah if he was incapacitated because of drugs he should have let Kamala take over.
he had covid, at that time too.
cancers can grow very quickly in the short amount of time, only takes weeks for a tumor to grow large suddenly if its an aggressive type. also many cancers, like melanoma can spread with a small tumor extremely fast. the staging depends on how much its spread, and also by the biopsy how much it infilitrated the layers of tissues.
I don’t have empathy for genocidal war criminals. Fuck Cancer tho.
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This is the real correct response tbh.
Human being has deadly cancer. Comments section: politics politics politics. I hope he dies in pain. Should have done more.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Kinda wish this happened on like January 1, 2024, we might’ve had an open Democratic Primary and potentially averted fascism.
Yep but who are they going to bring in? Another Democrat puppet
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Would have changed nothing.
The left would have cried that whoever wasn’t X enough, the right would have rallied around the Second Coming of their True Messiah.
The Russian playbook is now well-tuned to its audience, our morons.
The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too “anti-communist” to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.
For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn’t what helped them in the midterms, hasn’t been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their “good ole Republican friends” who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy’s sake.
I’m tired and disgusted of this “blame the left” narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat’s biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn’t easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That’s not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards
The last time I voted and did what the liberal told me to do. I elected a president who committed genocide. This whole back and forth with this is just very frustrating because if you really break it all down how the United States is set up, how our electoral processes work, I mean the power of the executive branch nowadays we’re not really a democracy. Corporations have captured our government. There’s this lady who is a exCIA analyst and she has a book called How Civil War Start and How to Stop Them. Her name is Barbara Walters. She refers to the United States as not a democracy. She is more successful and smarter than me and you.
Joe didn’t commit genocide, but he did provide the ability and protection for the genociders, which is honestly worse in some ways. America wasn’t a proper democracy; mostly a liberal empire where people have no say beyond if they get burnt, or thrown into hell.
The local level was where we could’ve built democracy this entire time, but building up that way for the long game is difficult and wouldn’t have delivered the material changes very quickly. The executive was ensured it would become a dictatorship because the legislature was so incapable of doing basic maintenance thanks to the ever increasing push by the right to achieve anarcho-capitalism at the cost of the very empire that gave liberalism its power.
The capitalists were a bunch of gremlins in an imperial machine who didn’t know how good they had it. Some get to do what they want now, but they’re losing more power than they realize, as now America won’t be the big bad empire it was when they started. Many have assumed it’s capitalism that’s the monolithic evil of history, but if you really look at the realities of the past, if you really look at the realities of America and the USSR, you’ll realize that capitalism was always but a minor force. Empires are the greatest evil in human history, not that Capitalism is better, but it just can’t reach the same level.
When will the left learn that the president has to be pro genocide and have no plan to ease the upcoming financial suffering of young people. The left simply wants too much
When will the left learn that not voting against literal fascists leads to literal fascism where you can’t say shit about genocide without being sent to El Salvador?
Sending billions in weapons to an ethnostate committing genocide counts as fascist. There was no voting against fascism in the last election.
Liberals need to learn that voting for do-nothing-democrats lead to worsening conditions for the country’s poor which strengthens the base for fascist support.
You’re never going to be allowed to vote against this regime. You need to do something else.
Oh right I almost forgot that the standard for president of the United States means not fucking everything up, not acturally doing anything good. Forgive me for expecting anything from the corrupt corporate elites or the superpacs that fund them. Im sure another four years of incompetent Democratic rule where they do absolutely nothing will really convince the American people not to vote far right. It worked for Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden.
The American public is pretty stupid. I’ll give you that. But I think we also give too much credit to Russia. All capitalist countries Fuck with elections. But I think it’s the politicians that pay Russian elements to do their nefarious operations. The world of computer hacking is a mixture of supposed good guys and criminals. It’s a great market and the people that have the most access to this is people with money and who have power. The lines are truly blurred.
No, everything bad that happens in the US is the fault of Russia. They are the most powerful country on Earth and the puppet masters control everything behind the scenes!
this is exactly the garbage a israeli or superpac bot will say. why does the blue maga never whine about ultrarich and aipac ? they influence our elections a million times more than anything else. warren was going to be vp and would have been president today if superpacs wouldn’t have forced their puppet harris on us who got destroyed in the primaries. and aipac, lol we all know saying anything other than israel is the true messiah is the death of any politician carrier or even an actual death.
Do you think you’re blameless? Do you think you’re innocent?
Do you?
Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10…9…8…
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:
Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn’t write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Agreed.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Agreed.
He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:
What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???
I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.
I thought that was his son? Or did he retweet it?
Those were his words while retweeting something else.
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?
Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?
This almost made me puke:
Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.
Well at least that definitely puts a stop to any misguided second term ambitions.
Pretty fucking classless dude 👎
You know what’s really classless? Biden sending billions in weapons to a country committing genocide. Also the crime bill. Don’t forget about making student loan non-dischargable through bankruptcy, creating the student loan crisis. We have Biden to thank for all these “classy” acts, plus him being so starved for power that he dropped out too late and gave an advantage to the trump campaign.
I don’t mind. It’s true and important for the future of everyone. Biden’s fucking around at the beginning of the last election cycle helped getting the current authoritarian who ignores the constitutional separation of powers elected. I also wish the shooter had hit, that’s also classless. The personal fates of these two old dudes are almost insignificant compared to their effects on the world, and I think accordingly.
Maybe I’m cynical but I feel like this is suspicious timing to release this information a day after videos of his memory issues in 2023 surfaced. Feels like a cynical attempt by his PR team to change the narrative.
In all honesty, an 82 year old man having prostate cancer is not very surprising. It is a personal issue and I have sympathy but it’s frankly not important to the world. A US president with memory issues concealed from voters and his own party in 2023 when it could have seriously changed decisions about the Democratic party nominations is surprising. That is an issue for everyone and very important to the world.
Biden’s PR team trying to change the topic about his health and his track record? Unheard of!
But yeah it’s not a shock an old man has a form of cancer that affects men more as they age.
Shame Trump hasn’t had something similar.
It’s not just Biden s team. Its the entire media consent apparatus build around the DNC that was responsible for Biden being around as long as he was.
They’re all culpable.
And then people were mad about “why are they talking about Biden when Trump is unhealthy?!”
Maybe we don’t want either unhealthy presidents, and only one side would listen to public outcry, and the other wouldn’t listen.
God damn, America is just fucked. Actual criticism was called unfair, and actual evidence of documented crimes of domestic and abroad was considered things paid for by $BAD_NATION.
I am a bit salty that one of my favorite people on .world was banned from this community due to a mod getting mad at them refusing to support genocide and proving they voted for Harris.
Man. That is harsh.
Who fuckin cares
What are these comments? You people are vile.
