• AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
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    Ironically, the most popular frozen pizza in Norway, Grandiosa, is considered something of a national dish. It’s also one of the worst frozen pizzas you’ll ever try, and is mainly popular only because of nostalgia.

    Also: Join us at !norway@sopuli.xyz

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      I don’t know what it says about me and my love for pizza, but your comment makes me want to try it even more.

      I’ve tried many a bad pizza, but I’ve yet to find one inedible, and that makes me curious.

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        Mmmm apparently this is a Grandiosa. I’d eat that.

        Looks like a Celeste frozen pizza. Ate those when we were poor and broke. I buy Screamin’ Silician nowadays, but the Celeste supreme one is still one of my guilty pleasures lol no joke.

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          Celeste was right where my mind went as well! The article said nostalgia was supposedly a big part of it, and I will eat a Celeste or even some Elios if I need a real throwback and I feel like I have a strong stomach that day!

          Let’s air mail some Celeste over in exchange for some Grandiosa. 😆

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            Oh I’ve never had Ellio’s before! I’m thinking it’s probably regional and we’re on different coasts xD

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              Oh man, Elios is total trash! 😆

              I think this pic looks better than I remember. It is a true industrial product!

              You take these planks out, and the bottom is perforated to break into three pieces if you want.

              Couldn’t find pic of the big case it used to come in, but me and my brother were just basically alone all summer on school break with a case of this that would just be replaced as necessary. Stuff like this is what got me to learn to cook, so I appreciate it in a roundabout way.

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                  My elementary school had pizza that looked like this. Not sure if it was the same stuff, but it was fairly similar at least.

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          I was going to say, that’s Celeste pizza if I’ve ever seen it. Which I get the nostalgia for. So bad, but even just seeing that photo is making me want what is essentially a large cracker with cheese on it.

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              Taco Bell is so good, as long as you just don’t consider it “Mexican food.”

              If I’m in the mood for Mexican food, I’ve got a ton of options for authentic Mexican food. But sometimes I’m in the mood for Taco Bell specifically.

              It’s when you conflate the two that you start running into problems.

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          It has the most important aspect of cheap frozen pizza. Which is the cheese having built up on one side because it was shipped that way in the truck.

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          That’s kind of sad. Is there some Norwegian food that you would recommend? I don’t know if I’ve ever had anything specifically from there.

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            Brunost, brown cheese, which is something of an acquired taste. Cherry cheese. Tubed caviar, which is not the fancy gourmet dish you’d expect from the name. Offhand that’s what comes to mind about uniquely Norwegian stuff.

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              I’d give that brunost a go, couldn’t find anything on cherry cheese, and the tubed caviar sounds like something my girlfriend would absolutely keep on hand. I’ll have to keep an eye out for these things.

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                  I’m East Coast between Philadelphia and New York. I think of the center north (Michigan/Minnesota) as where all the Scandinavians are.

                  I saw some things say Ikea stocked the Kelles Kaviar, but now they either don’t have it or they have some inferior house brand.

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              This kind of shit, alone, should be enough of an argument in favor of multicultralism…

              I’m sure they’re fine, but just reading the things you just listed made me lose my appetite lol

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                It’s not a great list, but alot has been left out.

                We also have, sheep and cabbage, lye-fish, whale, and blood pudding boiled in milk.

                You know what, yeah I’ll go get a Döner.

                Luckily we are a pretty multicultural society at least in the cities and everyone has brought their delicious foods over. Shame that were so sensitive to spice that some people think salt is to spicy :D

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                  I saw the sheep and cabbage, and I was expecting more of a stew, but all the pics looks like meat cut a minimum amount to fit in the pot with a quartered cabbage head tossed in. I mean, I’m sure I’d still like it as I like lamb (never found mutton here) and cabbage, but they don’t really seem to have gone for any kind of enticing presentation.

                  The lye part of the lutefisk doesn’t turn me off so much, but the descriptions calling it jelly-like don’t make my mouth water. Especially as it has the bones still in it if I recall correctly.

                  Whale has always intrigued me, but I feel I’ve heard more bad than good about the taste, plus I’d probably feel really bad about trying it.

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                  I hate to say this, but the delicious foods you’re getting in the cities, have mostly been watered down to suit the Norwegian palate 😂

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          I made some sort of Norwegian dish for my ex (she’s Vietnamese, comes into play later) that she really wanted and missed from when she visited Norway. It was a casserole consisting of potatoes, cream, pickled Herring, and ground black pepper. Like, I’m pretty sure that’s every ingredient that went into this thing. I’m not even sure if there was any cheese or salt.

          I thought I screwed up somewhere because it was not good. She loved it because it was so bland and apparently I made it perfectly. I do not understand how she could go from eating food like bun bo hue to whatever the hell I made and enjoy it.

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            Sometimes it’s more about the texture than the flavour and potatoes with cream sounds delicious in that regard.

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            You dont need to euthanize the flavour of the ingredients by using a bunch of extra spices all around all the time.

            Pickled herring already has a strong flavour, which with potatoes and cream will create a pretty smooth taste.

            One of the most known Basque (north Spain) cuisines is cod, garlic, olive oil. That’s it! And it’s fucking delicious if done right (vacalao al pil pil if honest to search). A good steak is often seasoned with just salt.

            I do enjoy heavy seasoned stuff, but sometimes enjoying the simplicity of non invasive flavours is cool too.

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      I knew a guy from Norway on a hostel in Argentina, I asked him what was their national dish and he told me that frozen pizza. I didn’t believe him and forced to give me a Real answer and he show me the Wikipedia article of some fish buried on snow for 3 months.

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        Hah! Lutefisk, yet another dish that exists today purely for nostalgia. It would also probably fail every food safety test in existence today if it wasn’t grandfathered in.

        For those not in the know, it’s fish preserved in lye, which is an extremely toxic substance. Preparing the dish involves cooking it for long enough to fully neutralise the lye, and any failure to fully do so results in poisoning, which can range from mild to extremely serious. I also hate to imagine what byproducts might be left behind as a result of the lye.

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    This tracks. Two of my great-grandfathers were Norwegian, and one of my grandmothers was Italian. I love pizza.

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    In Alsace they had their version of a pizza, a tarte flambée or flammekueche. Basically a pizza with onions and cheese.

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    I visited Norway once as a child and saw the biggest pizza of my life in a restaurant in Oslo. I didn’t get to eat one, though, I was only allowed to order the “small” pizza, which was the size of what I’d call a normal pizza, that is to say, quite big.

    I didn’t eat so much pizza in the end, mostly hot dogs, so many hot dogs, like, almost every day? I don’t know if hot dog is that popular in Norway or if all this just happened to me for some mysterious reason.

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      It’s important to mention that the vast majority of pizza eaten in Norway is frozen pizza. Grandiosa is the most popular brand and it costs about as much as a restaurant pizza anywhere else

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      What they call pizza here is more like frozen cardboard. No, it’s really “not that good” at all

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    When it’s cold AF you love turning on the oven. My family eats crazy pizza, but not in the summer. The take out places near me aren’t great. Of course cold places love pizza!

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    Can you call it pizza, though? If it has kebab, and shrimp, and banana, and peanuts, and mayonnaise is it actually a pizza, or is it simply a scattering of food on a plate that happens to be made of bread?

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      I’d argue that as long as the base is a Margherita (dough, pizza sauce and cheese), anything you choose to put on top of it doesn’t take away from the fact that it is a pizza.

      Substitute any of the ingredients of the Margherita though, and we’re in murky waters.

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      My friend, I’ve had an abomination of a cheeseburger pizza (in the US) that used mayo like sauce.

      And fish? You do know anchovies are an amazing (if somewhat niche, but archetypal) topping.

      Heck, did you know pineapple is a common topping? oof. Of all things to put on a pizza!

      Then there are those weirdly delicious mashed potato or Mac n’ cheese pizzas.

      And let’s not forget the blasphemous Alfredo sauce “pizzas.” Get that as a surprise on a slice of what looked like pepperoni at the Pizza Ranch on the buffet and just try not to throw up.

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        I went on a first date with a girl who ordered a slice of “big Mac” cheeseburger pizza with McDonald’s secret sauce and American cheese

        She wanted me to try a bite. I did. It was terrible. She loved it

        No accounting for taste, I guess

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      Tuna pizza is the best, and Americans are so missing out on it with their bizarre narrowminded gatekeeping of pizzatoppings. Americans have like 3 things that are allowed as pizza toppings, which is so strange considering pizza should just be a vehicle for whatever goodness you want to put on it. Even the otherwise food conservative Italians have figured this out with their pizza al taglio.

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        Pizza a taglio is actually something almost exclusively found in and around Rome.

        BTW even regular pizzas have various toppings, they just need to make sense (for example tuna and onions is a possibility).

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        No one gate keeping pizza toppings. It’s literally bread you can put anything in it. Calm down bro. We sell pizza with mustard and pickles on it in the south

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      I bet we can find out whose spreading this fake news if we Sweden the pot.

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        I hear Sweden puts bannana, curry, and ham on pizza. I like some weird foods, but I haven’t tried that yet…

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          Simultaneously?

          Now that I think about it though, pizza with a curry sauce could be really good. No thanks on the banana though.

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            The banana was the main sticking point for me as well, but with all the other stuff, I can’t imagine you’d get much banana flavor coming through, just a sweetness and texture.

            This just made me remember my brother used to do the thing Mr Rogers recommended: putting a slice of American cheese around a banana. There’s gotta be some weird food chemistry at work here if banana + cheese pops up multiple places…

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          You forgott peanuts and french fries, or chips as it’s really are named.

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            Wow, you are sending me down quite the rabbit hole here…

            Fries seems pretty sensible actually. Pizza fries are already a thing. Tossing some straight on top of a pie I think could add a nice crispy element to the topside, and as someone who loves the crust, more crispy starchy stuff is no issue. Saw pics with fries and hot dogs, and that seems like an unusual sausage flavor to add to a pizza, but I wouldn’t turn my nose up to a slice or two. Calling that American style is definitely fair.

            At first, I was less down with peanuts, thinking of that as the sole topping on a pizza. Too different a texture. But then seeing it called African pizza with all the curry, bananna, and ham, now that gives me more of a peanut stew vibe, and other than it basically subbing bananna in place of the carrot, African peanut stew is something I am totally down for. I just may need to make one of these up!

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              There are a few places in the US that put spaghetti on pizza… Yeah tried it, yeah it’s nasty.

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              The banana pizza is generally considered to have originated from a 70s casserole dish, known as Flying Jacob. How and why people decided to put it on pizza i still wonder, but everyone has their own tastes.

              On the other hand, pizzas with fries are bangin. Theyre usually put on top of a Kebabpizza. Goated hangover food, would recommend trying at least once.

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                Wow, the original casserole makes the pizza version sound better! 😁

                It should make sense that the spread of quick and odd casseroles was a worldwide thing. None of us were spared these strange concoctions.

                The kebab pizza does sound pretty amazing. It’s not that kebabs are hard to find in America, at least in most places I’ve been, but I’m always surprised they aren’t more mainstream. With all the mega chain fast food we have, none of it is as good as your random kebab, it’s not any faster, and I wouldn’t be shocked if the kebab was at least marginally healthier, more filling, and has less weird stuff in it. It’s not like a kebab is much different component-wise than a typical burger, and it’s just as, if not moreso customizable.

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              Many countries have an American style pizza, and I’ve never seen one that you’d ever get served in America. But the Hawaiian pizza seems to be the same everywhere. Then of course, if I were asked to make an American style pizza I don’t know where I’d even start.