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    We should be so lucky to have a party she represents in this country. The only reason she has that seat is by defying the DNC as a spoiler. They only elevate politicians to the Federal level on the basis of how good they’ve proven they are at collecting that sweet, sweet corpo bribe money.

    The DNC and democratic leadership would rather dissappear her Than Trump by a mile.

    The pendulum is the point. Both parties are well bribed to maintain the capitalist’s murderous control. Good cop and bad cop are both just fine with mass homelessness and entire murder for profit confidence scheme market sectors. One laughs at you when the capitalists cause you harm, the other just shrugs and says “golly gee market forces nothing we can do! But I affirm your right to die horribly as who you are here in this cardboard box under a freeway! Pronouns are free so whatever I still get bribed 😁” (edit to be clear, respecting others identity is the right thing to do and basic decency, but there’s a hierarchy of needs, self-actualization only matters if you have your basic needs met. You cannot live in an affirmation ribbon, you cannot eat a preferred pronoun, priorities.)

    If the Democrats were led by someone talking about redistribution, that bribe gravy train would stop. If by some miracle AOC manages to steal the party out from under them as Trump did the RNC, the DNC would be fighting her every move and comment the way we wish they were countering Trump right now. In fact, here’s how Democrat leadership spent the months leading to Trump’s inauguration:

    https://www.axios.com/2024/12/12/aoc-pelosi-oversight-committee-connolly-raskin

    Defending the country from one of the only slightly left Reps in the entire federal government.

    Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi are far closer to Trump than AOC.

    https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775

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    I promise you the Democratic Party will do whatever it takes to keep her away from leadership roles because she actually wants to change things.

    That’s the one thing the Democratic Party is consistent on: rejecting progressives, even if it means letting the conservatives win.

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      always so strange to see the words ‘guarantee’ or ‘promise’ when someone is giving a predictive opinion for an outcome they have no contol over.

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    I’d describe myself as a liberal more than a progressive, but it’s obvious that she’s become the most recognizable Democrat at the federal level. Other democrats simply have not been pushing back on the Republicans in the way that she has, and it’s fucking baffling. My theory is that most politicians are really skilled at fundraising rather than building groundswell political movements and so they’re just completely out of their element in this environment. I don’t agree with all of the progressive platform, but we need more politicians with character like hers and fewer geriatrics who refuse to release their grip on power

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      Other democrats simply have not been pushing back on the Republicans in the way that she has, and it’s fucking baffling.

      It’s a lot less baffling if you consider the possibility that they never believed any of the shit they said about Trump being a threat to democracy, or if they did that part doesn’t bother them. It was Theater Time during the election and now it’s Cooperation Time, and actually you’re the extreme one for not just seamlessly switching modes!

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    Coming in a distant second was close ally Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). The pair recently went to various states with their Fighting Oligarchy tour. Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) placed third in the survey with 8%.

    Former Vice President Kamala Harris came in fourth with 6%. Following her was Pete Buttigieg with 5%, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) with 5%, Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) with 4%, and California Governor Gavin Newsom (D-CA) with 2%.

    LOL, Chuck Schumer didn’t even place. That gives me a little hope.

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        Agreed, but let’s take a moment to recognize that he is the highest ranked Democrat in the country, and the fact that no one sees him as the face of the party should be humiliating for him.

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          the fact that no one sees him as the face of the party should be humiliating for him.

          I fucking hope so.

          Other than just generally being far to the right of the people he’s supposed to faithfully represent, he’s so far in the pocket of fossil fuel interests that he needs a custom snorkel to breathe and he literally claimed that his “job is to keep the left Pro Israel” 🤮🤬

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    I’ve been saying for about 5 years, maybe better, that she is the person I am most excited to vote for as president of the United States one day.

    I don’t even have another name in mind.

    I will be as happy to vote for her as I was for Sanders in the primaries, twice. I legit can’t wait.

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      How about Jasmine Crockett? I hope between the two of them, they start inspiring and generating tons more to go into politics.

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        Hope Crockett gets to be gov of texas… She reminds me of Ann Richards in all the best ways. She’d make a great president too.

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        “It’s my turn.” was everything wrong with Hillary’s campaign in a nut shell.

        How the fuck are you able to make yourself look like an unhinged ego-maniac who just wants to be President for the sake of being President, when you’re running against Trump? That shouldn’t be possible.

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          How the fuck are you able to make yourself look like an unhinged ego-maniac who just wants to be President for the sake of being President, when you’re running against Trump?

          This isn’t a problem of Trumpism, it’s a naturally occurring brainworm in Americans broadly speaking. Trump’s a nasty dim-witted freak, so watching him climb to the top of the pile we’ve been raised to believe was a meritocracy causes all sorts of cognitive dissonance. But everyone running for President (except maybe Mike Gravel) ends up looking like this. The thing that separates the Obamas and Trumps from the Hillarys and McCains is whether cheering for the unhinged ego-maniac feels fun or not.

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      She’s just the most recent candidate. The most recent candidates, and most recent Presidents and Vice Presidents are almost always in these sorts of lists, especially in the weeks and months following an election, before the next campaign starts.

      Joe Biden was a favorite in these sorts of polls in 2015/16, despite saying he wouldn’t run, because he was just VP.

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    What’s Elizabeth Warren been up to lately? That’s who I’d vote for of I were American.

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      She’s been busy shouting about all the wrong parts of crypto to regulate and then not doing anything about any of it.

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    Her rally with Bernie was pretty electrifying. I can see how her polices might be polarizing to some, but damn she can get the working class support. Just gott keep the momentum up and get people to actually vote.

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      Polarizing like a magnet. We’d have a force for good instead of a lesser evil. That’s a lot better at getting people to the polls.

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    Sorry to say but it would be a bow wrapped gift to the GOP. It’s very easy to brand her a socialist and on top of that she’s a woman.

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      It’s time for Democrats to own socialism. It’s milquetoast appeals to centrism that make the party boring and come across as dishonest.

      That doesn’t mean being unreasonably uncompromising or unpragmatic when it comes to getting things done across the isle in government, but at least be true to your ideals and aspirations.

      Bernie would have easily beaten Trump if voters had the option. AOC will likewise wipe the floor. A real alternative not more of the same.

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        There are about five socialists elected at the federal level. What basis do you have to believe that hundreds of millions would vote for a socialist leader when most of them haven’t ever voted for a socialist anything?

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        Actually what would happen is dem support would crash even more because the GOP playbook works. AOC will be branded a socialist, a communist, ready to sell out, to take people’s property etc. Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, the electorate will believe it. If the dems want to win they need to lose the haughtiness and a projecting an air of superiority that they know what’s right for people and appeal to blue collar workers again. i.e. messaging needs to change. That might make people more receptive to left wing / progressive views. They also need to read the GOP playbook and create some divisive issues for the right to deal with. But expecting people to accept/embrace/own socialism is a joke. It won’t happen. Think smart.

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          People don’t know what socialism is…Most people’s understanding of socialism includes the government doing basically anything

          What people want is free healthcare, affordable housing, tax the rich. We just need to double down on that populist messaging - and when they cry out “that’s socialism” we have to stop trying to run from it

          Tax the rich. How are we going to pay back our deficit? Tax the rich. Why does everything suck? Because we haven’t taxed the rich. What are we going to do in office? Tax the rich. Isn’t that socialism? Who cares, tax the rich.

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          You make some good points. It’s a case of why not both. There is a way to own socialism mainly by appealing to Western Europe, Scandinavia, Australia, Canada. Learning from what works and if people want to call it socialism, fine.

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        Harris lost. That’s the point. If the dems want to win they need to learn from their mistakes, not give even more wedges to the right to scare away voters.

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          Harris lost by a razor thin margin, and there’s legitimate concerns that they cheated (more directly than usual). They lost because they tried to ease up her messaging to avoid alienating the people who were always going to vote for Trump

          We need to rally around what everyone wants - free healthcare, affordable housing, tax the rich to do it. Just chant that over and over. Anyone who does that is going to win

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          She lost, because (IMO) she basically gave a big middle finger to:

          • Leftists
          • Progressives
          • Arab-Americans

          And, because she decided these people were great people:

          • Dick Cheney
          • Bill Kristol
          • Georgie Bush
          • Mike Pence

          You know? The war criminals and war criminal enablers.

          The lesson Dems need to learn is that no matter how much they shift right, they’re not winning GOP voters. All they are doing is shedding voters on the left. The whole “Vote for us because other team is bad” rings hollow when you’re doing everything the other team is doing, too.

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      The US is simply too misogynistic to elect a woman as president, especially a woman of color.

      The unfortunate reality is that our best bet for the White House is a progressive white man with AOC as VP.

      I believe that even AOC knows this.

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        I don’t think that’s true tbh. The Dems have never managed to nominate a popular woman as their presidential candidate before. Clinton was almost universally disliked by the public (for lots of good reasons other than her gender), and ex-prosecutor Harris’s campaign was hamstrung by Biden, as well as being seen as an other pro-corporate Democrat stooge. AOC might actually have a fighting chance compared to her predecessors. But she’ll never be able to be the Democratic candidate until the old guard of leadership is replaced, let’s face facts.

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        You can’t say that because there is no reliable data to go off of. Kamala and Clinton were terrible candidates.

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          Hey now there will for sure be “elections”, they’ll just be 100% kayfabe instead of just 50-75% kayfabe

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              When we get the real-life political equivalent of Stone Cold… Ironically the most popular wrestler per event in history who’s whole gimmick was fighting the authority of the wrestling promoter who didn’t believe he was an acceptable face of the company and constantly wanted to push their own handpicked corporate champions. It’s actually a lot more spot on than I meant it to be…