That will be awesome for when my body dies, but I still want to be a brain in a jar playing MechWarrior.
Karen Sandler did a great talk on closed source software medical devices many years ago.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qW1h1s_ojpM
This even more the case if it’s your brain! It probably won’t work for decades, but we should get house in order long before it does.
Like https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete shown or https://www.vox.com/unexplainable/411102/neuroscience-technology-consumer-products-safety-maintenance more recently or the older 2010 paper “Predictors of Assistive Technology Abandonment” https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10400435.1993.10132205 ?
Don’t be negative, it’s all good! /s
Right to repair, and openness, is absolute must for devices being put into peoples bodies. The fight seams to not even started yet. Most people are completely asleep to issues right now.
“has long toyed with the idea that your brain should be more connected to your PC”
seems like billionaires’ wet dream to be honest
But imagine how easy it would be to
track youserve you more personalised ads.We have all been “convinced” to carry tracking devices with us everywhere we go. Way cheaper than a brain implant.
This is the new tech that will justify Half Life 3 they were talking about in the doc. It all makes sense now, the ultimate controller!
Who is controlled though?
Not advocating for our against but 2 thoughts here:
1: Gabe isn’t Musk. Yes money etc but don’t immediately jump there without other malfeasance please. Caution absolutely but don’t ascribe one rich assholes shit to another.
2: He probably has hard data on accessibility… Possibly more than nearly anyone else. There’s a HUGE portion of the population that can’t use “traditional” controllers or other input devices. And that’s not even going into the medical realm.
Could game Gabe be starting his villain phase? Sure! But until more negative details come out I’m just hoping this is investments he’d use toward a new steam controller.
let’s not circlejerk and have a soft spot for a billionaire just because you like video games. why give gaben the benefit of the doubt just because you think steam is a good product? if they’re a billionaire doing this, we can assume this is a money making venture.
if you’re a billionaire, you’re already way into your villain phase. he’s not musk, but he’s one of them. you don’t make a billion dollars. you take a billion dollars.
Billionaires either inherit their money or get it by being an asshole. Being nice doesn’t make people billionaires.
The billionaires today have an opportunity to eliminate world hunger yet they don’t. Instead, they fly rocketships, sail on giant yachts and buy island compounds or towns in Texas. So yeah, No one at that RB club is going to win a Nobel Peace Prize. They all suck.
There are a few exceptions. JK Rowlings became a billionaire simply by writing some really popular books, and even stopped being a billionaire by giving much of her wealth away. As far as I can tell, she didn’t become an asshole until later.
I bet she was always an asshole, she just hid it from the general public.
There is literally no evidence of that other than tankie memes.
I am ready for my 99999 downvotes and insults for not going with the propaganda. Nothing prevents someone for eventually saving up billion by making a good product in todays digital age. Nothing requires you to be evil. Countries having shit tax policies that do not get the full benefit of having hyper rich is a country policy issue. Killing people is not the solution, change in policies is.
nah. you need to be pretty fucking terrible to build a business where your share of it is worth a billion dollars. you do so by cheating your customers, employees, and competition. valve is no exception.
there are plenty of companies out there that pay their employees decently, make good products, and compete fairly. those companies usually aren’t worth that much and their leaders aren’t making a billion dollars from it. you’re right that the tax policies are shit, but it’s not like you ever accidentally become a billionaire. you do so by cheating the tax system too and screwing the general public.
and nobody said anything about killing people.
So, you are reading things I didn’t write. I’m not defending him about steam games etc… The only good will here about any of it is the work toward better Linux life.
I agree billionaires shouldn’t exist.
I don’t like steam.
I don’t really do much gaming… And it’s worth stuff from GOG.
Chill out. I’m not the fanboi you are looking for.
I’m only saying perhaps he sees $$$ in a venture that is rife with much worse people doing far worse to vulnerable people.
On the off chance better access comes about from rich assholes eating each other, I’m game to at least watch.
I’m not. your post is literally saying we should be nicer to him because he’s not Elon. you’re saying we should be easy on him because he might be doing some good. I’m saying we shouldn’t.
No. “Don’t immediately assume he’s doing the same exact evil” is not the same as “be nicer”.
At the least, it’s “assume other bad motives perhaps”.
My thought is this is just another way to milk money from others. That simple. Not “let’s bribe govts”.
If it’s assumed he’s doing the exact same as Musk, then we either prepare to undo the damage incorrectly, or waste time looking at the wrong stooge.
you’re quoting yourself but you never said that. you said maybe Gabe could be entering his villain phase, as if he’s not there yet. thus implying you meant he’s not a villain, so we shouldn’t assume the worse. I get what you say now, but you did not say what you meant in your original comment.
I’m willing to say more positive things about him. His dedication to Linux is great of course, but I’ve also heard that people working for him get a lot of freedom to choose what to work on. And no crunch. In the games industry, that’s pretty good.
So yeah, he seems to me to be one of the better among the tech billionaires. But in the end, he’s still a billionaire, and he’s god that ridiculous fleet of super yachts.
First step to getting away with shithead behavior is convincing a group, any group (but preferrably one marginalized), that you’re representing them.
Idk, there are tons of good things that have happened from rich people doing stuff. Hell, that’s the reason medicine progressed — if nobles weren’t terrified of dying, who knows how long it would have taken to figure out that bloodletting with leeches doesn’t work?
I don’t think I need to point out all the bad things that have happened because of the rich.
Not saying represent by any stretch.
If I need X thing to survive, I’d rather get it from a pure and innocent source… If that’s not possible, I’d rather it from the dude with too many boats who charges too much money than the one actively gloating about destroying lives literally and on a much higher scale.
Yes I know lesser evil etc… This isn’t a philosophy course and I don’t need what they’re selling. But many do potentially and I’d rather minimize damage than just let the absolute worst be the default.
I respect that, I just try to provide context. It’s often misinterpreted, and I do succumb to emotional responses — but my goal is to make sure those that are justified approach their goals with a clear mind.
I’m not advocating for the rich. I just want people to make the right decisions when it inevitably comes to the point where we need to decide what to do with the rich. I don’t think we should treat GabeN with any more respect than we owe the poorest person, is all.
You don’t get to be a billionaire without some malfeasance.
And even if you don’t assume actively malicious intent like you should with Musk, there’s a lot of potential danger with technology like this, and if you don’t stand a lot to gain, and have reasonable controls against things going wrong, it’s probably not a good idea to be an early adopter. It’s just like a pacemaker, there are a narrow segment of people who should want to test a new model/concept for them.
Absolutely agree at every part.
My desire would be strong regulation via a real agency (not current US), or alternatively ONLY work via non-intrusive means on the scalp.
Yeah, if we were putting billionaires against the wall, GabeN would probably be near the end of the line.
There was a time the same was true for Elon Musk, before he suddenly decided to jump the queue. I really hope Gabe isn’t going down that path.
Gabe spends a lot of time at sea since the pandemic, and kinda comes off like he has some soft libertarian vibes about self sufficiency and governance.
For me? He’s human and rich. It’s reason enough to be suspicious.
Would I get it? I won’t be first, that’s all I know.
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Surely using the word tankie as an insult, without understanding what it is nominates yourself for the wall.
Tankies want to advertise technocrasses not punish them.
The picture in the post is unhinged
It’s fairly on brand for Valve, one of their banners was a guy with pipe valve stuck to his head.
More than stuck on
Billionaires should not exist
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tax all wealth above the nth percentile of the populations wealth
It’s worth remembering that there was a time when the highest US tax bracket was taxed at 90%, and that didn’t stop the US’s longest period of sustained economic growth.
Ridiculously high tax rates for ridiculously high incomes have been done before and are entirely feasible.
Careful now you are scaring tankies because they can’t go long without their delusions of getting to massacre everyone who disagrees with them.
The only condition under which I wouid ever consider getting a neural implant, is if the implant and its software is open source.
Any closed source thing you stick in your brain will ultimately doom you.
Besides that, there’d also actually have to be a purpose. As it stands now, cybernetics isn’t advanced enough to turn me into a full cyborg, so probably never in my lifetime.
All these brain chips will primarily, initially, be for crippled people. Maybe a controller chip to control prosthetic arms, or something to let a paraplegic person control a computer.
It’s still fun to hear the man himself talking about a larger than life virtual reality.
The tech still scares me, I’m not even sure I’d be okay with EEG-like patches that work both ways (scifi, I know), not to mention brain surgery, for pure decadence. But the quality of life benefits really can be huge for many, and that really got my fantasy going, once I ‘accepted’ we figured out the limits and safeties of bodily autonomy.
I don’t think it’s expected that the average person will be jumping at the opportunity to tinker with their neurons. The first line of people to get such implants will almost certainly be people with physical disabilities.
Regarding closed source ultimately being a net negative to your well being, I think you’re absolutely right. Unfortunately with as niche as a product like this will be for some time, I worry any corporation willing to put forward the funding isn’t going to be willing to open it up to such a degree.
While true regarding open source vs closed course. The risks are quite large for patients. For example, a few years ago there was a company called Second Sight that made artificial eyes so blind people could partially see again. Then the company discontinued the product and now they are stuck with an unsupported surgically implanted device that they rely heavily on but can break any time. It’s pretty risky to have something implanted if you don’t know if the company will be around in a decade or so.
As long as theres no wifi and its to solve medical issues, why not? Better than trusting a nazi.
Valve enabling Nazis on Steam is about as good as being a Nazi. If this is the first time you’re hearing about the problem, search for “steam nazi” via your favorite search engine and you’ll get some pretty good results among the first.
not “no wifi”. It’s “no any kind of wireless connections” and even then I’ll say no.
“The non WiFi versions cost more and are not supported by most insurance.”
- from the future
Digital onboard data processing and spike detection allows the device to operate via low-bandwidth wireless interfaces.
It also receives power wirelessly so probably going to be the only option.
not “no wifi”. It’s “no any kind of wireless connections” and even then I’ll say no.
Suddenly this makes way more sense
I can hear this picture
TIL Valve is into brain chips.
As far as I can see the company behind it (Starfish Neuroscience) is not affiliated with Valve in any way? (Aside from having the same CEO)
And Newell is Valve because it’s his private company
To be fair, I think it’s specifically Gabe who’s been obsessed with brain computer interfaces for the past many years. Obviously it’s his company, so Valve by extension participates.
Makes sense, as you get older you get more and more disgusted by the weakness of your flesh, and tend to crave the certainty of steel.
The Valve Deckard was a little more ambitious than had been originally anticipated.
We’re going to get Borg before GTA VI
Props to him for trying it himself instead of having someone else do it and take all the risk
Valve CEO Gabe Newell pretends to get a hole drilled into his head for a brain-computer interface.
When Gabe or Musk are the first people to get the implant, I’ll consider it… 10 to 15 years later.
It’s wild how Lemmy gamers and others treat Steam as if it’s a noble corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire so he can’t possibly be bad. The fact that he’s a billionaire is proof that he underpaid and stole from everyone below him. There are no good billionaires, and Gabe is not your friend
I mean, it’s hard to hate on someone who pays his people well, gives fun benefits, cultivates chill working culture and is overall simply a chill guy and whose big, fat marketshare comes from actually working for the customer.
Yeah. He could probably pay better or give more of his wealth into the society. Hell, prolly even should. But the fact is that among anyone else with that title, Gabe looks like a goddamn saint.
He’s anti union, valve employees aren’t allowed to unionize. Also seems cool with making money off all the games made by studios who are also underpaying and over working employees
Anti union sucks. But about money - yeah, Steam is a game selling platform. If they tried to avoid selling games by studios underpaying their workers, they’d evolve into indie game selling platform. Most AAA studios underpay folk, do they not?
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He could direct his company to stop targeting kids with addictive gambling mechanics and looking the other way regarding grey-market resellers.
Valve doesn’t make money from keys on the grey market. Only on games bought through Steam, what do you want them to do?
Valve are the pioneers of lootboxes. No denying that.
cultivates chill working culture
First of all, admittedly, watched half of it. But also I don’t see the point. Yeah, they have problems coming from their structure, but these seem kinda miniscule compared to any other game company. I mean come on, people looking up to more experienced colleagues for advice was shown there as a problem “because they have more to say”. Or the bias in hiring…that even ex employees seem to understand that it simply happened due to their requirements about experience and such. The video was informative, but…pretty much shortly after mentioning what they aim for when hiring, one could easily foresee most of consequences.
Although damn, the pressure with these must feel enormous. And also…they really seem to say a lot of it up front so where’s problem?
The fact that you wrote this with just vibes makes me love Gabe that much more. I’m finding that the best past in life is to reject whatever the fuck you all are selling since you’re all so out of touch with reality.
It’s wild how many servile, billionaire lovers there are here today. It’s kinda pathetic
it’s almost as if there may be room for something in between love and hate, black and white, good and evil
OMG GET OUT OF HERE
Is a killer a good person? Isn’t there a line to cross before you become bad? If you reached billionaire status you left the moral line far behind
Is a killer a good person?
Well yeah, sometimes! It is very context dependent.
For example, my grandad was a killer. Fought Nazis in WW2.
that’s a good way of thinking when you are 6…, by puberty you should have realized it’s not that black and white
The fact that he is a billionaire does not mean that lol. He’s a billionaire because his company gets a cut of every sale of games on his platform, and his platform is the industry standard/default platform for digital distribution. He could be paying his employees a million a year to be a janitor and he’d still be a billionaire, no “stealing” and not one being underpaid.
Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you. Great example he don’t care about us? He is anti union and refuses to let his employees unionize to ask for better conditions. They’re also raking in money on all these games that are also being made on the backs and labor of underpaid workers
Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you.
I’m not “defending billionaires”, I’m correcting misinformation and rubbish. Of course Gabe doesn’t care about us, I never said he did.
Just because he is a billionaire doesn’t mean that he exploited, underpaid, or stole from anyone. He’s a billionaire because he created the only fish in a huge pond that everyone throws money into hand over fist. Like I said, he could be paying everyone there a million dollars a year and he’d still be a billionaire because he OWNS the company. It’s not a publicly traded company, it’s private. He owns it.
They’re also raking in money on all these games that are also being made on the backs and labor of underpaid workers
That’s got nothing to do with him. He built a marketplace and tools for people to distribute and use in their games. The working conditions of people making the games that are then sold on his marketplace has nothing to do with him.
Yes but to be fair it wouldn’t be hard to find someone that felt that they were more exploited by Valve then by the likes of EA or Epic
But yet he might be one of the better billionaires in the pool of filth.
Nicest guy in prison
Given the state of the US justice system, that’s not much of a gotcha.
