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meant to mislead potential players into thinking the game is successful when, in fact, it’s severely underperforming behind the scenes.
Why would a player in a single-player game give a tiny shit about how popular it is? It’s the investor class that cares about that; stop treating their interests as a natural good.
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It’s old lunacy. Believe it or not we live in a class based society where the vast majority of the people that actually provide value to society have their labor stolen by leeches that make money by having money and that is what that person means by the investor class.
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Oh, I never thought of it like that.
What a great criticism! You’re obliviously someone who has thought long and hard about this topic
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I guess licking boots gives you a lot of time to think. What’s your favorite flavor of polish?
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Dude/Dudette…
What… what the fuck is your entire account?
You have like a weeks worth of recent comments, and 90% of them you are downvoted to oblivion, just no matter what comm you are, what you are talking about, its just you being insufferable and/or contrarian and/or confidently wrong.
Then further back than that, 2, 3 months, you have some actually informative and useful comments, funny commentary most people liked, and that just keeps going.
Did your account get hacked? Did you suffer a TBI. Get fired, partner broke up with you?
Like I really am not trying to be a dick here, you good man/gal?
You come back after about 2 months of absence and you are now seemingly intentionally just trying to be shitty basically all the time.
Thanks for taking the time to check, blocked them.
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That term is decades old, it’s fine if you haven’t heard it before but maybe consider that possibility before replying like that and looking like an asshole.
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Then you are either willfully ignorant or a troll, in either case not worth my time.
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everyone is an investor and a shareholder
Are you mad at them for using the term or mad at someone else for coining the term? Or mad at everyone for using a term you had never heard before?
This is Lemmy; everything is politics and it’s really fun and mentally healthy
everything is politics
Literally this
it’s really fun and mentally healthy
Uh oh, someone’s upset their world view is challenged by people pointing out life’s problems!
Sounds healthy…
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It’s a bad game
I’m avoiding it because it just doesn’t look that fun. I played the last 2 new dooms and they were good, for console shooters. More PC gamers should have higher standards than this. I don’t want a dumb story about medieval times, collecting dolls, linear maps, cyberdragon mounts, running from arena to arena and then starting repetitive wave fights. Just make a good shooter please!
You basically summed up why i didnt find the reboot and its dlc any good haha
The only real criticism I have of the game is the price. I think it was a great single player experience, but I totally understand people balking at the $70 price tag.
It was fun, but I put it down once the credits rolled. Nothing inherently wrong with that; cramming a ton of completionist and weekly update content would not have made this a better game.
Maybe I’m just old.
I hope this shows companies that selling their games at 80 Euro is not the way to go.
Anyone know what the budget was? At 800k sold, that’s roughly $56M, minus merchant fees, plus whatever they get for 2.2M players on Game Pass.
Definitely not bad, though I expect it’ll take a while for them to recoup their budget.
Fewer than. *
No less than is correct because they know the exact number they have sold.
If you’ve sold less than 1,000 units then you have sold a number of units that is under 1,000.
If you have sold fewer than 1,000 units you have not sold 1,000 units but you’re not sure how many units you have sold just that that number didn’t reach 1,000.
But they do know how many units they sold, otherwise they wouldn’t know if they had sold less than 1,000 so it is “less than”.
No, that’s wrong.
The “less than” vs “fewer than” rule isn’t about whether you know the exact number - it’s about countable vs uncountable nouns.
Video game copies are countable, so it’s traditionally “fewer than 1,000 units” regardless of whether you know the precise number sold.
That said, it’s been misused so much that it’s become more flexible, and “less than” with numbers is widely accepted now.
Don’t take my word for it, Google it.
Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.
Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?
Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.
Yeah, I’d buy a DLC for 2016 right now but I doubt I’ll buy Dark Ages, at least not until it’s on sale.
I’m on the same page as you re: Eternal. The first hour out so was fun, and the graphics are neat, but it stops feeling like a Doom game pretty quickly. It doesn’t even feel like a Quake game, which would at least be tolerable.
Will probably give this one a shot eventually when it’s on discount, but not in a hurry.
God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.
Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech?
Based on everything Ive seen… theyd ruin Quake too
I agree. Unless they got very lucky I think the only way they could do Quake 5/2030/whatever is if they gave it the indie treatment, which as vassals of a giant publisher they are unable to do with an important IP.
We can dream
I recently replayed Quake ii + expansions, too, and it’s also its own joined of fun. Hunting for secrets never got old.
I also liked Doom 2016 and it worked well on Linux. I’m sad to hear that the later ones weren’t as good.
Do you know of any games similar to Doom 2016 that you’d recommend? I liked how it didn’t waste time trying to tell a story, usually I’d watch a movie or read a book if I want a good story. Doom had enjoyable steady action and I felt like I could enjoy it for half an hour at a time without needing much time to get into it.
I honestly don’t mind some story in games. Heck, I’ve got hundreds of hours in Skyrim and other RPG’s. Doom to me is run & gun. Doom 2016 had the perfect amount of story for a Doom game.
Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything else quite like it. If there is, I don’t know it. Most other shooters are either COD, SciFi, retro FPS or stuff like Borderlands that leans into comedy.
If this was ‘back in the day’, closest recommendation to it would likely be something like the Quake series. That’s id’s own successor to the original Doom. Sadly also long dead.
Good news then because Dark Ages is extremely different than Eternal and a lot of people who didn’t like that game but loved 2016 are happy with it. I’m not saying rush out and spend $70 on it, but give it a go when it’s on sale down the line and you might end up really pleased with it.
Eternal was too hard for me. Love Dark Ages.
I find TDA too messy compared to 2016 and none of the tight game design of Eternal. It is the worst of both previous games.
The reverse-Midas of Microsoft, whatever they buy turns to shit.
It has nothing to do with quality, most people played it on game pass instead of buying it.
How nice for Microsoft, I’m sure it’s a big success.
Game pass is a big success for them as far as anyone can tell.
They’ll undoubtedly retain all of the people who came to play Dreck Aegis, after all it’s state of the art and highly replayable, like any Doom game.
It doesn’t really matter if people stick around to play a single game, they’ll almost certainly explore other games and stick around for the service. That’s the idea I think they’re going for.
I’d be curious to see how many CoD players stuck around.
I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.
Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.
Amen.
$20 is the limit for me. I’m perfectly fine waiting a few years to play the game, if it still exists by that point. If it doesn’t, then I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.
And another plus is that you get to play the games as bug free as they‘ll get AND at higher framerates assuming your hardware improved in the meantime. I certainly wouldn‘t have been able to get the high fidelity DOOM 2016 experience I can get now (at a high framerate) way back when it released.
Downside is that if there‘s any multiplayer component to a game, it‘s probably pretty damn dead years later. But first, I personally don‘t care much about that anymore and second, games bleed the majority of their playerbase within months anyway so it‘s whatever.
Games cost more to produce but there’s more customers than ever
And its certainly not the developers who are getting all that extra money.
As much as I love the Doom games I’m not really a fan of the $70 price tag. The Doom games are great games but it’s not like they are in my top 5 favorite games or anything like that. I’ll wait for a sale.
DOOM 16 was fantastic, but eternal felt gross. It was a huge step back from 2016, and didn’t feel fun. I’m not bothering with the newer games since they essentially are going off gimmicks.
Did a new DOOM game get released?
Well “new” is arguable.
Yes it runs on Microsoft excel
Put the entire game on the disk/ 2 disks and I will buy.
In this economy? I’m sure its worth it but $70 is $70.
I paid about £3.50 for Doom 2016 last week and around £12 for eternal, having not played a doom game since Doom 3’s launch. I’m enjoying the 2016 one and will look forward to Eternal in a week or 3 once I finish that. what I won’t do is pay £70 for a doom game. I might consider a games for windows sub to get it that way, but that remains to be seen.
Game for windows sub? You mean Gamepass?
That’s the one, sorry, shows how much attention I’ve paid over the years since games for windows was a thing.
