I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
Maybe call a friend for help? That’s my strategy and I have an active account. I just didn’t want to look at it
Yeah, that’s a good idea. Thanks.
Instead of sacrificing your friend’s face to Facebook, you can sacrifice an AI-generated face. I commented above:
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
LMAO
I used a burner sim and a fake video. You could generate it with AI or even a good 3d model.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook.
Instagram, however…Too old or too young?
Too young. Most facebook users are actually boomers nowadays.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Huh
Edit: apparently I’ve angered people by not knowing what this means. It sounds like multiple levels of sarcasm but whatever
I don’t follow either. It sounds like they’re talking about couples making joint Facebook accounts, which is a complete non-sequitur from all the comments before it.
But I might be wrong, as it seems a lot of people understand something that we’re missing. Would anyone that understands this better mind giving some clarification?
I have an Instagram account where I just lurk, no posting, no following, no likes. At my last sign in there was some message about my account being restricted for supporting extremists or some bullshit and I would need to submit a photo of my ID.
I also just closed it directly. But I need to delete my Meta Accounts some day
Yeah I am out too. Sellers won’t trust a new account anyway. On top of that Facebook marketplace was a nightmare even back then when I was active. People not showing the right prices, people not telling you what they want for a product, products not being what they show etc. I am very happy without the product anyway
“Make me an offer” is the worst.
Especially when they put the price as free and then say make me an offer!
At least put $1 so I don’t have to see your bullshit at all if I filter correctly.
Yeah. Because they already know what price they will accept or won’t. So it would be faster if they just mentioned that price instead.
Fuck that shit.
Oh HELL no
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
It’s deff KYC bullshit first and fore most. Training data is a cherry
Kyc requirements are for banks
Yeah banks and other financial institutions are elegally madated to do it.
Social media does it for “fun”
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
Their point still stands - the bots need to know who to target to generate revenue, otherwise they waste your money.
There is a big difference between bots you control and use for you own gain, and bots that someone else owns and uses for their gain
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
Sadly they totally can. There are plenty of face databases already that they could use if they wanted[1], but if you have friends on Facebook (or Instagram) you might be in their pictures and Facebook run it’s facial recognition on every picture. Whether they can connect that to an identity or not isn’t something I know, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Tangentially related, I remember over ten years ago getting notified that I could tag myself in friends uploaded pictures that I was in, which was also when I started to get really creeped out by Facebook.
I remember this podcast about some https://www.searchengine.show/should-this-creepy-search-engine-exist/ but there is a decent amount of reporting about them ↩︎
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
just do a face swap thingy
Yeah they can kiss my ass. Video selfie. Fuck that.
Cant seem to see this as a bad feature. Accounts on the internet are way too anonymous and bots are swarming every social media
In what way is anonymity bad on the internet?
I miss when it was the default position of everyone online.
Still though, with the whole damn world going online, in places where anonymity is never expected in the first place, I can see the benefit. I used Facebook marketplace once just to be ripped off.
My daughter uses an anonymous Facebook account with the name of a cartoon character, she’d just close the account if they pushed her though.
It pushes extremism and rudeness for example
Plenty of people do that with their personal information on full display.
And plenty of people commit murder without guns so they dont need to be banned?
When you’re done with that strawman, can I borrow it to put in my field please?
We can circle back to this debate when anonymity is the weapon in a mass murder.
You mean like circling back to your argument when some people being antisocial by default means other factors causing it can be ignored.
Sorry to break this to you, but the people writing bots can also get over this barrier very easily - see that link to the faceswap in this thread? That makes it possible for every person with a bit of tech understanding or at least a bit of persistence to ignore this. it’s not even a speed bump for people whose job (yes, job) it is to write bots.
This does nothing to make the bots go away, but it gives Meta a full facescan, which is the fucking last thing to hand over to anyone - a data breach at Meta would mean that everyone around you will get scammed by videocallers with your face; not even your bank manager would be able to detect that something is off if he knows you personally (a short phone call with you to get a voice snippet makes the illusion perfect!)
The political shenanigans in the US are also a reason to NOT give facescans out to anyone.
The solution to bots does not lie in giving up your anonymity. There are no shortcuts here that don’t do more harm than good.
Dont get me wrong, Im not saying I would do a facescan for Facebook. I cant understand how anyone in the whole world would still consider using facebook at this point. All Im saying is anonimity is getting out of hand and the fascists are making very good use of it
anonymity is not the issue when you have people posting fascist shit using their real name without consequences.
Yes, in many cases anonymity is not the issue. Your point?
Looks like we found a good use case for facial generative ai
The same thing happened to me recently. I used my friend’s phone to play this video in front of the camera, and it worked.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-21/video-selfie-verification-process-for-account/104499702