Chrome is one of the first things I disable on my Android devices, and I hate the idea of signing up for any accounts just to access local files.
But Canon welcomed me with a big surprise, and a fuck you, too!
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I worry a day will come that it’s all of them.
The problem is, you don’t always know they will do this until after you pay your money for them.
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Of course, it always is.
But a lot of this type of enshittification can be difficult to learn about without getting your hands on thw product first. Especially if it’s a new model.
Especially if its a few years down the line when you’re already a few grand in to their system
Much like every telehealth experience I’ve had in the past 3 years.
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also one of the things behind the decline private doctor care in general too.
In order to access my tax and benefit accounts on the Government of Canada website I can only use Chrome … making sure to wipe all cookies, etc afterwards.
I freaking hate shite like this.
Is that through the CRA website? I’ve been able to access it on Firefox (through Linux) without being hassled.
But yeah, websites that force you to use Chrome would get on my nerves. I’d be sandboxing that entire browsing session, too. LOL
I use FF on both Mac and PC for the CRA site. Can’t remember the last time I used a browser other than FF for anything.
I’ve had some sites simply not work right with Firefox, so I’ll use an alternative, usually just another flavour of Firefox, like Librewolf or Waterfox, and they tend to work just fine. It’s probably something to do with some of the locked down settings that I use on my primary browser, but it’s nothing compared to forced Google Chrome or gasp Internet Explorer. 😵
the CRA website? I’ve been able to access it on Firefox (through Linux) without being hassled.
Same here.
Maybe they’ve got some privacy plug-ins that are preventing the CRA website from functioning properly?
In the past, I have had to add my bank and some government websites to my whitelist
I stopped using FF a while back. But if memory serves I wasn’t able to access gov’t sites with it either.
Chrome or chormium?
Chrome.
I’m pretty sure that duckduckgo browser is based on Chromium. That should work in Chrome’s stead.
Nope. I use multiple browsers (DDG, Ghostery, Waterfox, etc) and none of them work.
Have you tried changing the user agent to chrome?
Nope. I will try that and see if it works tho.
Thanks for the head’s up.
Update … it took a while but that does work on Ghostery. Thanks again. :)
Awesome!
Canon still exists? People still use dedicated cameras? I found Canon hardware to be overrated, scanners to cameras to printers. All shit in one way or another. And their software, my god, the cruft.
Yes dedicated cameras are still around. They aren’t going away anytime soon. I really like my Fuji camera.
Canon makes great optics and decent hardware but is pretty bad at everything else.
Having never been a photo nerd or enthusiast, I am in the “good enough” camp. I’ve given up a long time ago on the “metrics bullying” and gatekeeping, electronics have reached such a level of performance and low price, everything is the same to me. If you see neutrinos, great!
Do you ever actually take pictures of anything remotely interesting or worthwhile, or is it just an object you can talk about endlessly and upgrade continuously?
It’s like audio, at some point is it about listening to music or buying new speakers?
Have I mentioned I’m old?
Photos like these aren’t going to be possible on a phone camera. There’s still a lot of physical limitations to phones, namely low light and high aperture glass. Due to space constraints you’re extremely limited with sensor and glass size, which is where professional cameras still blow phones out of the water.
If all you’re doing is taking selfies and pictures of things you see around you then a phone is fine, but once you’re beyond that, it’s much more efficient to go to a dedicated camera.
I do use it, probably one shoot or so a month. out of every 100 pictures I probably have one great one and 10 others that would be good with editing but I never go back and edit them. A phone is probably better for most people most of the time but there are definitely cases where it wont do the job.
I initially bought it when I worked over night shifts and wanted a night time hobby on the weekends, so I wanted to do deep space photography. I finally got on days soon after and am not up as late anymore so mostly take it on hikes, or birding and rarely around the city.
I rarely talk about it unless I show a picture that people ask “how’d you take that?” and I have to explain. I’ve bought a few lenses in 5 years but think I’m set on those. Maybe in another 5 years I’ll upgrade the body. For me it’s been a worthwhile investment.
Who’s the one bullying and gatekeeping here?
I’m not a camera nerd either, but I recognize that there’s people that need professional hardware either for a professional use or an obsessive hobby (either photog or other electronics or optics work). If a cell phone is “good enough” for me, that doesn’t mean it’s good for a specialist. Just like pretty much everything else in life.
Fuji is great. I love my X-S20
Op here pretending phones have the best picture quality.
I don’t need pictures of neutrinos or every individual quark of my cat. We passed the “good enough” stage a long time ago. Point, shoot, digitally hoard pictures for no reason, the end.
I get that, but the post doesn’t try to make an argument on using a camera over the phone camera. There are plenty of cases where the picture quality just doesn’t do. Personally I own s few cameras I use for special locations, parties, holidays, travel, to have the best pictures possible to have long lasting memories.
Even when I carry my gear around, my wife and In-laws take pics with there phones, and that’s ok too.
Good thing that’s not the only thing cameras are used for. Good enough for Jimmy on vacation isn’t good enough for large scale prints, marketing, etc
Canon has dropped the ball so hard imo. Most of my other video friends and contacts who use dslrs switched to Sony.
I also use Sony (and Panasonic) cameras, and both their apps just work without an account. That could change at any time, unfortunately.
One thing that could work is to use an older version of the app without updating it. I do this with GoPro Quik, since the “new” Quik app is basically one big advertisement to get you to pay for a subscription to edit your videos.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony required an account. But who knows, maybe the camera division is under better management
Interestingly enough, there is an option to sign in to an account in the Sony app, but it is not a requirement to actually use the app, connect to the camera, etc.
Not sure they’re much better, they charge to install an intervalometer app. Its extremely basic functionality that should be there as standard.
About the only thing keeping me off Sony is that they’ve got a really bad star eater problem in their DSLRs, and even still somewhat in their mirrorless.
I figured out how to connect my Nikon to their app (finally) - works somehow, most of the time, but you can only transfer photos compressed to 2MB jpeg. Is there a reason for that? I think it’s annoying to have to delete the duplicates later on
but you can only transfer photos compressed to 2MB jpeg.
I don’t own a Nikon camera, but my Sony, Canon, and Panasonic camera apps allow you to set the size of the transferred photo to “original”, and they do default to something smaller, so I always change it first.
Do you have that option?
Couldn’t find it anywhere, neither on the camera nor in the app :( but thank you anyway!
Canon is on my personal blacklist for decades. I bought a printer from them, not just a normal A4/legal, but a professional, wide one that uses rolls of paper, etc. I was unhappy with the state of the driver under Linux, so I called and asked for a programming documentation to write my own printer driver. Their opinion on Linux/open source was that “open source is theft of intellectual property”.
Their opinion is stupid, but I’m also not sure what you expected when you asked some random sales rep for deep technical info.
Well, in a commercial space, at least if you’re big enough, asking sales reps for deep tech info is the norm. They are supposed to find an engineer and get them to answer.
If you’re a big enough customer, you set the norms.
I contacted both technical support for commercial systems and later their booth on a big technical trade fair (CeBit Hannover), and got basically the same opinion both times. The first was definitely no “Sales Rep”, and the people at the booth were a manager and an engineer.
But I agree, their opinion is stupid.
I wonder how many open source libraries their driver codebase relies on, it had best be zero with that attitude.
They had no Linux driver back then at all, but there were some rudimentary from the community that printed Ok. They just did not support special printing modes, which i wanted to add.
magiclantern.
Jailbreak your shit. You own it don’t you?
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And isn’t that just exactly what they count on?
This is a useless comment.
Says the person who randomly brought up phones when the other person was talking about a camera jailbreak.
Magic Lantern is awesome!
Unfortunately, it’s for higher-end cameras, not my old point-and-shoot cameras. And it doesn’t magically give your device GPS for geotagging images :(
The app was fine. The enshittification of the app is not.
Can you not just find and use an old version and disable updates for it?
Yes, another user already confirmed that the old version still works. I’ve done the same with the old GoPro app.
EDIT: but old versions have built-in planned obsolescence, because they won’t support newer devices (both cameras or smartphones) for very long. My Samsung 360 camera was rendered useless once they discontinued app support.
I have an old Gear VR and a Samsung S3. I don’t believe there is any way to use it today. It wants to connect to Facebook to log in, but their auth token has expired.
You actually can still use it, there’s some folks on reddit trying their best to keep it going. App support is very poor though.
My S3 is garbage. I only wanted to try and stream videos to it (without motion tracking) but even that seems too hard.
It wants to connect to Facebook to log in
What a fucking cancer of integration.
Jailbreaking locks you out of banking apps.
Edit: jailbreaking your phone might lock you out of banking apps.
Jailbreaking your camera does NOT.
I don’t think people are out here doing their banking on their Canon DSLRs
Don’t you gotta jailbreak your phone as well? Otherwise it will require the chrome browser
No, installing magiclantern on a jailbroken camera means you don’t need to do the Canon sign in bullshit at all.
Great! I’ll update my post! Thanks for clearing it up.
Maybe on Apple (?), bur GrapheneOS supports my banking apps just fine. The only thing missing is Google Pay, which I don’t use anyways
How? Having an unlocked bootloader or root breaks Safety Net, which disables many apps. You need an unlocked bootloader to install custom ROMs.
Magisck used to be a workaround, but Google has been sabotaging it at the OS and hardware layers, so it wasn’t working the last time I tried a few years ago.
Pixels can have custom AVB keys so the bootloader can be locked after installing gOS.
For a moment there I thought they’d locked down the SD card or something. Don’t people transfer to their computers anymore?
For file transfer, I prefer WIFI direct connect, unless it’s large video files.
But this app is used for more than file transfer, so you can’t even geotag photos (for example) unless you have an account. Crazy shit, since this would strictly be between your phone and camera.
It’s not like the geotagging was all that great anyway. The phone app sucked battery like an alcoholic with a fresh bottle.
Shit, no more Canon then.
bye bye Canon. You were once the light of my photographic life - now you’re dead to me for pulling this bullshit.
Trebuchet > Canon
Catapults > Trebuchet
Ballista > Catapult.
(Orbital ion cannon > Ballista.)
They’ve really gone downhill since the AE-1.
“Yes, I’d like to return this camera because it’s an invasive piece of shit”
I have returned printers for requiring an internet connection out of spite.
Yup, sucks. What I do is just take out the card a plug it into a little USB dongle thing which I can plug into either my phone or laptop.
Also faster than the app too. The app uses WiFi or Bluetooth. Its also annoyingly finicky to connect tk the camera.
What I do is just take out the card a plug it into a little USB dongle thing which I can plug into either my phone or laptop.
What’s wild to me is that anyone would do it any other way. I’m astounded that this is somehow a “tip”.
Not even 10 years ago it was simply the way to do it.
Cables are better but they have a minimum time to setup and can be inconvenient if you do it while traveling. If you just need a quick transfer then using an app or wireless transfer is better.
Apparently not anymore.
If you’ve never actually used the Canon app on your phone: I assure you that it would be faster to ride the elevator down from your hotel room, walk to the nearest store, haggle with the store owner for 10 minutes over the price of the cable, get your money changed, buy it, and return to your hotel room than it would be to wait for the app to connect to your camera over wi-fi.
Yeah but the app also does remote control / viewing. The transfer is a bonus of being able to quickly do the transfer and text it to someone right away.
Of course, none of this matters because I don’t have Chrome on my new phone and can’t even create the stupid account if I wanted to.
Also, can’t find information about which version they rolled that out in and get an older version.
You want version 3.2.40.36, which is the last one before the app requirement. It’s available on APKMirror and probably elsewhere as well.
Depends on your workflow.
As an example, if I’m in a studio and have a camera set up a certain way, it’s highly inconvenient to have to turn it off, pull the card out (which can mean removing it from the tripod if the card slot is on the bottom of the camera), plug it into a phone or laptop, copy the image, load the image for review, eject the card, reinsert the card, set the camera up again…
I mean, holy shit.
Why do that when you can tap the gallery through the app (already connected because you’ve got live view going), click on the photo, open it for review, keep shooting.
Of course, if you’ve shot a big day and have to offload 100gb of photos and video, an external card reader is the only way to go.
But for studio, live sessions, or quick shots, app transfer is so much easier. Some cameras have NFC, so you just tap your phone and start the transfer.
None of this has ever been a problem. It’s the requirement to have a connected account that makes it a problem.
I think it’s a bit hilarious that touching the camera is considered such a hassle now. When I learned photography we had to finish the reel and spend a day in a darkroom before we could see the final product.
Still, I hope someone makes some open source software for you. More convenience is always better.
I think it’s a bit hilarious that touching the camera is considered such a hassle now.
If you are being paid for your work, or you are under time constraints, there’s no way anyone would choose to take dozens of steps over a few.
I still love my older cameras, including one of the first DSLRs (Canon Digital Rebel). No apps. Every feature sold to you is right there in the camera, and those feature still work 20 years later.
It’s the enshittification of technology that’s the real problem. Most people would love the conveniences offered by advanced features, but not when there’s a catch.
And this extends to well beyond “regular cameras”. GoPro has completely ruined their hardware by locking basic features (like image stabilization) behind their app and/or subscription!
When I learned photography we had to finish the reel and spend a day in a darkroom before we could see the final product.
That’s when photography existed as a skilled art, and a more enjoyable hobby. I miss those times.
Advantage of using the app: Remote shutter/control.
Very convenient if you take lunar photos.
