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    30 days ago

    Good meme!

    Answer you probably weren’t looking for:

    Because while you might not be political, the Nazis are. They’re political enough for both of you, actually, and they prefer it that way.

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    Always hated the subtitles of Jeremy’s line here. It’s all it italics except the word “like”. Suggesting either every word has emphasis except that one word, which is nonsense. Or that the emphasis is on “like”, which doesn’t work either in this context. Plus I remember this episode, and I’m pretty sure he put emphasis on “I” and “this”…

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    dude, a lot of us have been banned from reddit for being overtly leftist. its a major reason lemmy even exists.

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    30 days ago

    “Can we stop talking about politics for a moment?”

    “So, uh, does anyone like Furina from Genshin Impact?”

    “HOLY SHIT, okay fine, let’s talk politics.”

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      I dunno. I kinda wanna talk about how fucking good the new dark tranquility album is. But i doubt the people on Lemmy have heard anything related to its namesake Lemmy kilmister

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      I hate to be that guy, but that is the NCC-1701 Refit, or the NCC-1701 A , not the NCC-1701, and I demand the meme be fixed, preferably by putting the old school enterprise in it.

      Edit, this is the refit,

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        Im gonna that guy your that guy. If this is the refit it’s still the original enterprise. It’s no different to the ship of Theseus question, if anything it’s simpler than that old canard, so I’d say it’s still the same ship just upgraded.

        The equivalent would be to require all pictures of some actor only be when they were young. I challenge your premise at the axiom here as it’s the same ship just upgraded at a point in time.

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          Gloves come off I understand you point, however the refit replaced a large section of the engineering hull, the nacells, that the only part I would call “origional” is maybe the primary saucer section hull, and the bulkheads, I would disagree that it was just upgraded, and upgrade would be from the pilot to the main series where the collectors had an upgrade. this feels much more like a new ship with extra steps.

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            Heh, well even by that definition I’d still say it’s the og enterprise. If we’re taking the nautical pov on things like a wooden sailing ship, they often had similar refit type work and were always the same “ship”. Example, Tally Ho rebuild on YouTube, you can argue all you want that there is barely any of the 1910 ship left, but no mariner would argue as such. The idea and spirit of the Tally Ho is alive in the rebuilt ship. She is as much the original as she is now or will be in the future.

            Really it’s just a question of lineage or even idea. Much like a human with say cosmetic surgery to look like Barbie or Ken, the person is the same the bones are still there as it were. The name remains, the ship will change, or if you will the 4d path in time describes the ship through history.

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              Fair enough, I do think I was probably overly hastu with my um actually correction, especially given this looks like it is re refit, you have out that guyed me

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        I was wondering if anyone would catch that.

        Lying, I didn’t notice.

        And I’m glad you’re that guy. We need that guy. Not everybody being that guy. But at least one that guy, to hold things straight and true.

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          You know what, how about you come over, and we can watch so much star trek you can indentify what enterprise is what on sight. I can supply popcorn

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            I was over 30 when I realized US Thanksgiving was always on a Thursday. I’m not very observant. So I don’t know if I’ll ever get the ship id down.

            That being said, I’m there. What drinks shall I bring?

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    insert [at this point I’m afraid to ask] meme

    what is the “beans” thing?

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    Preach, my friend. It is actually the main reason I’m considering deleting my profile because part of the reason I left mainstream social media was to get away from politics and ideological lunatics, but this platform is fucking full of both. Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.

    Is there anywhere on the internet where people are just focusing on hobbies and interests that aren’t mired in hatred and aggression?

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        This is like saying that everything is religious and that everyone is religious and then making arguments for why everything can be turned into religious doctrin.

        You’re technically not wrong if you choose to have that lens on for everything, but it is a very limiting way of viewing the world and to someone like me, borderline madness.

        It is also more of an uhm actually argument rather than engaging with the point I was making that I think most of us are aware of. When someone says they would like to avoid politics they are more often than not referring to the aggressive and argumentative stupidity that occurs between people when certain inflamed topics - usually current events in politics - are brought up. It is pretty easy to discern that from anyone who says “can we just not talk about politics right now?”

        Much like dicks and religion, some people just don’t want that shit shoved down their fucking throats constantly because it is rarely if ever productive and beneficial to anyone. It is, at most a passing contest or an attempt to shame and attack people who sees the world differently from yourself.

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          Nah. Religion has an opinion about everything. Much, MUCH different than politics literally having an impact on everything. Even a fully secular society would have political efficacy to consider.

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          I mean, don’t you think it’s at least in part bc politics have invaded just about every aspect of science and tech?

          Like I work in research, and over the last 5 months everything has changed. And it’s still constantly changing.

          I wish it didn’t have to be so political, but a lot of people feel like it’s not so much a choice to talk about politics. How do you talk about science/tech/healthcare without mentioning very abrupt and invasive policies? Often, I learn about things that will have an impact on my job here before I hear anything from my employer. It’s kind of insane.

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            Outside of Lemmy and other social media there is no desire to create a connection to politics at every opportunity. The propaganda machine is real

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              I mean, literally it feels like it’s overtaken my entire life, not just online. Everything.

              I was kind of into politics before, but never to this extent, even during Trump’s first term bc it’s just fucked up everything for me.

              My job, my plans for the future, my child’s future, my family that are retired and dependent on social security and Mediciad, my friends that have had health issues.

              It’s not propaganda. It’s literally just fucked me over, and ignoring it would just be like closing my eyes, sticking my fingers in my ears and pretending reality isn’t real.

              If that’s not the case for you, I understand and kind of envy you, but I promise its the reality for a lot of people right now

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                  Originally the discussion was about politics always being brought up on lemmy for all topics even when it’s not relevant to the topic. I said that it’s not necessarily that people want to bring it up, but it’s hard to talk about most things without bringing it up bc it’s become so invasive in so many things.

                  Maybe I misunderstood you, but it seemed like you were arguing it’s not actually invasive it’s just propaganda making it seem invasive, no?

                  So I was explaining how it actually has been very invasive for me in response to the statement about it being propaganda.

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              Outside of Lemmy and other social media there is no desire to create a connection to politics at every opportunity.

              So … Off internet?

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        Even after filtering out as much of it as possible. Its like a cancer, spreading to every forum page on here.

        That also goes for the forums I have subbed to.

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          That’s absolutely not been my experience. Political topics are normally deleted in other forums I’ve been on.

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        I’ll try and check it out when I have the time to dive in. I’m honestly leaning more and one toward just cutting the chord and not using the internet for anything other than work related stuff and watching youtube on the DuckDuckGo player. The current state of the internet is for bots and hysterical political people and I’m honestly over it at this point. Even on this knockout place from the brief glance I had, it also looked like a very political place so eh.

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            For what it’s worth, I am very appreciative of you making me aware of Knockout as an alternative. 🤗

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          not trying to intrude or provide any valid critique or communicable perspective necessarily, but I was wondering what the concept of “Political” means, in terms you could best use to describe the feeling/notion to someone? I can think of a couple criteria in mind that I would associate as making a topic that was not otherwise related directly to activities of some level of some government somewhere, suddenly seem “Political” from my perspective. I am curious mostly just what criteria you might use to filter topics or general ideas?

          if I sound like a bot it’s because spectrum disorder not autofill so read carefully for L’s sake

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            Anything that fits into ideological screeching.

            There are plenty of topics out there that are political in nature that I do not mind, but I do mind the combative, aggressive, reductive and unintelligent discourse that has become the norm online. To me it is not actual discussion nor is it people wishing for a better world. It is just angry people screeching into the void and attacking anyone who disagrees with them and calling them whatever slur they can come up with.

            I find it childish, unproductive and stupid and I don’t want to see or hear it. If I wanted to rot my brain I could just drill a hole in my skull and pour some feces in there. It’s the same effect that political screeching has.

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              Actions have always “spoken” louder than the thought we have, especially the thoughts which some people may choose to put into words in various contexts. few creatures in existence are brave enough for actual honest self reflection beyond some personal threshold of comfort which they have established for themselves, and wish to venture no further beyond. I think people who don’t recognize any of what I am talking about above, or who may be narcissistically excluding themselves from consideration while agreeing with the sentiment, are some of the people who end up screeching as you have described, over topics that they have yet to delve deeply into, as they fear being perceived as amateur or even novice, while never even fully recognizing that the Dunning-Kruger effect simply must apply to themselves as well, to some degree, in any area of study that they are actively pursuing with passion.

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                Whatever their reasons for screeching, it’s not something I care to be around.

                We have all screeched at some point, especially online. I’m not innocent either, I have just grown out of it and seek to engage with people in more productive ways.

                It is one of the reasons I came here in the first place because silly me believed this place would be full of rational and mature people and they are certainly here too, but holy shit have I been overall disappointed in the tone on this platform. To me it is no different than Meta, Twitter and Reddit and maybe I was a fool for believing there would be a platform online where people act normal and are able to have a discussion without becoming hysterical and flinging insults as the first measure of rebuttal.

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    People like to complain, and if you’re even marginally aware of the recent headlines, there’s a LOT to complain about.

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      Exactly … I wouldn’t be talking about politics if politics had just stayed out of affecting my life in so many stupid, terrible and sometimes horrible ways

      I prefer politics remain just plain boring press conferences from a dumb politician trying to figure out how to raise finances to build a highway or fix a bridge or upgrade water services.

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        I’ll be honest: I’d probably still be talking about politics. But at least it’d be more confined to appropriate communities rather than spilling over into every aspect of life.

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        It feels weird to have nostalgia for a time when the corrupt politicians, morally questionable revolutionaries and war crime loving generalissimos of the world at least tried to look respectable on the surface. You know, speak in complete, reasonably complex sentences and all that.