@Redditsux if a third party was anything other than a manipulative plot, it would start in the states, gain traction for its stances and success in delivering, and spread to other states.
Any national, top down attempt to form a third party is either psyops or a fool’s power grab.
@Urban_Hermit @Redditsux Yes! Successful 3rd parties must work from the ground up, not from the top down every four years. It’s hard work at the local and state level.
Wouldn’t that only be true if the third party was running a brand new slate of candidates? If the Republicans and Democrats are in secret talks to form a third party, it’s likely that a whole bunch of incumbents plan to break off from their parties to join the third party. They don’t need to win an election to do that, they could do it right now.
Of course their old parties would try to defeat them in the next election, but if these incumbents have been getting elected for many years then they’d still be hard to unseat even in a different party. Especially so if these members’ electorates are already disgruntled with the existing parties.
@chonglibloodsport There is no indication that current republican and Democratic politicians are working to form a new party. It would certainly be leaked if it were happening.
Musk is shooting off his mouth about forming a third party. Based on his track record, very few, if any, Democrats would join him. He would split the republican party if he tried. It’s probably an empty threat, but I hope he does it and fails spectacularly
Any assertion about how a “successful” third party works is by nature purely speculative.
@bitjunkie This is a forum where we share deas and speculate about a lot of things. If you’re not willing or able to add anything of substance to the discussion, you can always scroll on by.
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I’ve been kinda wanting the progressives to split off from dems for a while now but honestly the shitty dems splitting off from progressives is probably better. Let the people that actually want to do right by their constituents keep the democratic party. All those “center left” people can go create their bullshit third party and fuck off. You won’t hear me complain.
Oh good, another neolib party to compete with the neolib party and the fascist party
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If the Democratic neocons are ready to come out of their closets we should be happy for them living their truth.
Democrat centrists imperiled by the Left
lol. Bye!
Buh bye.
Buh bye now.
Is it a common saying the way you did the “Buh bye, Buh bye now” or you also watch Tara Mooknee content?
It’s a common saying when you exit the plane.
TIL, thanks ^^
This is how we know it’s all a farce, they don’t want a natural independant party like Bernie Sanders or AOC
Please do
Yeah I’m down for anything that breaks up the duopoly
This won’t do it. The plurality system (often called “first past the post”) inherently and inevitably leads to 2 parties. Whenever a third is introduced successfully, it quickly eliminates one of the previous parties.
Breaking up the supply duopoly requires a change in voting method, such as Ranked Choice or Approval methods. Those allow a third party without acting as a spoiler.
There is a proportional ranked choice voting system called STV.
Coming to you now from Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi.
Just heads in jars.
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So a right wing ruse to further fragment the opposition? Yeah, I figured
I’m confused, I thought they didn’t like each other? Almost as if it’s all fake sentiment and the real game is the corporate sponsorship. Watching Obama yuck it up with Trump lately was a slap in face. Holy shit, could it be any more obvious. You already have alternatives to the status quo, just vote for them.
First past the post is not democracy, it’s kleptocracy.
Disgruntled Republicans sick of being bullied by Donald Trump and Democrat centrists imperiled by the Left are secretly having conversations about forming a third party in American politics, The Swamp can exclusively reveal.
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Sorta silly. The democrats are a bit more conservative than 70’s republicans and part of the group is to get away from too left democrats???
In other words a spoiler party.
It’s not a spoiler when the neolibs do it. Progressives are the ones who have to vote blue no matter who.
If it’s the party of not taking bribes to go against the interests of their constituents, awesome. If it’s anything else, get F’d. Get money out of politics, we are sick of you buying our votes and lying through your teeth all the way to the bank.
Nah, it seems like it’s the party of taking all the bribes. Their problem with current politics is that voters are actually expecting Democrats to do something other than taking bribes while the Republicans are afraid that all the bribes they are taking will be meaningless if Trump becomes God-King.
Actually, this might not even be a bad thing, the corrupt leaving the Dem party on their own would actually free that platform to actually do something for once.
Some people on the left: We gotta vote for neolibs or the world will literally end!!!
Neolibs the second they don’t get their way:
