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      Well, without cheap labor from immigrants, companies are either going to have to pay living wages or go under. I am okay with both.

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    As a woman, you couldn’t PAY ME to have a baby, you NEVER could. You know that shit in A Handmaid’s Tale where they send the women who are too old to have kids out to work the fields until they die? Sign me up, because I’d rather be dead than bring a child into this world that has gotten only more and more fucked up as I’ve been alive. I always say, I love *my *children so much that I refuse to give them life on Earth.

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      I love *my *children so much that I refuse to give them life on Earth.

      Yes! You can’t pay me enough to bring my children here to suffer. If I’m not willing to be part of anyone’s war, why should I subject my descendants to do that? We all know how this IRL “civilization” game is played. And it’s anything but civilized.

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    Ancedotal: I wanted 3 kids. I have none. I’d like to think I’d produce a better than average member of society. While I have more money than many Americans, I don’t feel like I have job security, financial security, and I see my country in a decline, where quality of life is lower than it was during my childhood, and my parents lifetime.

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      That’s the thing… They don’t want you to produce a better than average member of society. Better than average members are less likely to accept low wages in crap jobs without complaining. There are only a handful of good paying jobs in the future and those are for nepo-babies. Merit no longer matters.

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      Honestly I always have felt this way. No one asked to be born, and we would all be better off with fewer people (once the olds are gone).

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    These articles often state ‘women’ not having babies like it’s a woman led problem.

    It takes more than a woman to make a baby, a man is needed too. Society has made it so hard to have/want a child. Not m/f specific. Even if you do have kids, what world are are you bringing them into. Not m/f specific.

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    Many researchers believe this accelerating global shift is being driven in large part by a positive reality. Young couples, and women in particular, have far more freedom and economic independence. They’re weighing their options and appear to be making very different choices about the role of children in their lives.

    Lol the wolves are upset the sheep aren’t breeding enough.

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    Don’t worry. Elon will make fifty more babies to offset the difference. /s

    But not really sarcasm, cause that weird fuck will probably do it.

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        Agreed; the system is now so completely inverted and has been for a while. The extremely wealthy can actually afford to have huge families and not suffer a huge setback in quality of life.

        In agrarian societies where having more help around the farm was relatively cheaply done by having more babies, the poor would often have very large families. If most people are living in and near cities and very, very few have anything to do with farming, the cost per child is much different. People in the middle class that push children past something like 5 or so are almost guaranteed to be treading water or backwards, economically.

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      I’ve heard this was one of the causes of The Enlightenment:

      I am not a history expert, take what I say here with a hefty grain of salt

      After The Plague killed a bunch of people, the rich didn’t have as many people to work on the farms. Thus the farmers suddenly had the ability to demand higher wages and working conditions. This led to the average person being able to buy things like books and pay for tutors, which in turn led to more people becoming educated and working in the arts and sciences.

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        To build on this, in Norway so many people died that in 1450 (100 years after the black death) 60% of all farms was left abandoned and the term Ødegård (øde = desolated/abandoned, gård = farm) was popularized. Ødegård/Ødegaard is still quite a common family name to this day.

        Anyone that wanted could just go and take a farm and be their own boss.

        Of course, in the 1500s when the population had increased sufficiently the farms all had to be rebuilt and the rich landlords claimed the farms in their area and the King took the rest. The peasants were allowed to work the farms if they paid the lords for the privilege.

        In the 1600s a new underclass of Husmenn (hus = house) was created. They owned their houses, but not the ground. When they moved they would normally take their houses with them.

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      Ding ding ding. Capitalists are seeing the inevitable lack of blood for the blood god, and are starting to panic. Infinite growth in a finite system, after all.

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    Less babies less pollution I see no problem with this lol, of course stupid people have more kids but as long as education is still funded stupid people will have smarter kids which will vote out stupid peoples politicians