• Doug Holland@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It doesn’t matter.

    If someone unearthed video of Trump raping an 11-year-old, Republicans would love him even more, his approval ratings would go up, leaders on the “religious right” would explain that it’s all Biblical, and Trump would successfully sue for the profits from video sales.

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      I’d usually agree with this sentiment, but the MAGAsphere actually seems to be breaking with him on this one. The chuds are upset about this, and it might not go away so easily, especially now that he’s attacking his base over this.

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        Well one of the things that nobody seems to have considered is that Elon has a bot army, an AI, and Twitter he can turn against Trump.

        In addition, and it may or may not be a coincidence, but he’s not as buddy buddy with Putin as he once was.

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          I absolutely believe Putin is fueling this. President Vance is a collaborative agent for Peter Thiel and the Heritage Foundation. Heritage is a longtime Putin ally. The question is, will MAGA stop questioning their echo chamber after Trump is put out to rot? That is the gamble, and they are going for it.

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            I absolutely believe Putin is fueling this.

            Yeah, but liberals believe that Putin is behind everything, so that’s not surprising

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              Just because we think Putin is behind everything doesn’t mean he’s not behind this exact thing. The same way just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean you’re not being followed

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              … because he has a ton of global influence??? He’s former KGB, one of the greatest misinformation diseminators of history. If you don’t believe that, you likely consume some of it.

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                Ok. That doesn’t mean he’s behind literally everything the way liberals make out. The KGB were second rate information manipulators compared to domestic US operations anyway.

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                  You are making a strawman argument. I didn’t say I am liberal, nor did I say Putin does everything. I said Putin is likely behind this, because Putin definitely has compromat on Trump. I also said he has global influence, which he does. These statements are obvious, supported by overwhelming evidence, and not so broad as your strawman

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      If you truly believe this, you need to take a step back from one or more echo chambers, because you’ve lost touch with reality.

      Trump waffling on the topic, without any ‘hard’ evidence, has already caused momentum in the opposite direction.

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        But it’s just performative resistance. They still vote to give him everything he wants every time without exception.

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          But it’s just performative resistance.

          That’s your assumption, not a fact. If hard evidence of Donald Trump literally raping a child was made public during his last campaign, I’d bet my life savings he wouldn’t be President today.

    • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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      That’s my takeaway too. What are americans gonna do about it? Nothing. He’d just gain popularity and the church will like him more too because of their common interests

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      I don’t like the presumption of video sales for CSAM.

      Edit: not a dig at you, but of the unpleasant viability of that statement.

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          He’s not drawing any left support, but splitting the right who will be completely open to crazy shit

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            Yeah I agree. That’s good for the left. Split votes. What we really need is a third party that hates the rich and loves guns.

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      That’s not going to happen, but it’s really gonna be fun watching them fight more while he tries.

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        I’m surprised how much faith you have in people’s critical thinking skills and short term memory.

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        I don’t find it fun at all. It coukd easily lead to Trump consolidating his power

        If he decides to really go after Musk ny stripping his citizenship, or taking away federal money, it’ll send a strong message to the other oligarchs to fall in line

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          it’ll send a strong message to the other oligarchs to fall in line

          If that’s going to happen, it will happen with or without this.

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          Yeah, I’m rather confident that bots are rampant on here. All the wrong news sites are constantly the ones that are upvoted the most. The bots don’t care who you hate, just that you hate. It doesn’t matter if it is leaders, minorities, businesses, other nations, or whatever.

          The bots agenda is to make it harder for people to work together in unison. Create disruptions and lower the operational efficiency of other nations.

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            And I doubt the Lemmy devs will do anything to stop them. Fortunately, with other software like PieFed and mbin reaching maturity the Lemmy devs won’t matter soon.

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            Yeah. I mean I get that some posts are obvious scam/spam/hate but a brief description of the post by the people who posted before it was deleted would be appreciated. Otherwise it’s just a tease

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      It’s more that because of elon’s single-mindedness and pettiness that we can measure his effect on the platform and extrapolate that to other social media. So this would give us a good basis of measurement for the forced memes that big tech companies want us to spread when they aren’t being so obvious.

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      And this is being told to us by a drug addled, serial conman, with an insemination, but not actually breeding kink, who lies about his prowess in video games for attention and validation, and just released an interactive AI girlfriend/boyfriend simulator…

      Who is also the richest man in the world.

      Who paid for the person he is now mud slinging at, to become President.

      We live in a fever dream, or fan fiction level attempt at a cyberpunk novel from the 80s.

      Fuck it, maybe simulation theory is correct, and us running a whole bunch of AI bullshit inside of it is just actually collapsing the narrative generation capacity of the simulation.

      Damnit.

      I’ve now made the fever dream even more ludicrous.

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    mind that he was willing to do all this together until he couldn’t get enough shit from mango mussolini for his pockets companies. he can choke on a bag of dildos after he gets his nuremberg trial.

    if these people, all of them, including the Dems who capitulate, owners of the media companies that censor in their name and push their fascist agenda, all ICE employees, don’t get their own nuremberg trials, and examples aren’t made of them, the US might as well throw the towel and declare itself a lawless land and a failed state.