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And productivty drops for most people after 6 hours of working.
My dad commuted 2.5 hours each way my entire childhood. All through the 90’s. It wasn’t until DSL got to my parent’s area in the 2010s and I was out of college that he could work a hybrid schedule. I couldn’t do it. I work 30min away, hybrid 2/5 of the time. It’s still more time than I want to soend in the car.
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I don’t think people who made this law ever lived in Toronto. I used to do a 90 minute commute each way, 2 hours easy during afternoon rush.
My company closed its Scarborough location, they opened a new plant in Hamilton. I was going to commute to the new plant. Everyone, including upper management told me how stupid that was. We have to run our logistics during the night because the truck drivers refused to drive in traffic during the day. Truck drivers… How bad is the traffic if truck drivers are refusing
Living in walkable area - luxury Having a good commute - luxury
As if the entire system is designed around somebody else’s needs
Neat. Anecdotally I can confirm that as I work construction so have a variable commute. 30 minutes is fine, 45 an inconvenience, and an hour having me thinking about quitting.
This is objectively false in NYC.
My limit is 30 min, anything more than that is a fucking road trip, not a commute.
same. and even that is better paid well, because that increases my work time from 40 to 45 hours per week.
If my commute isn’t a 30 second walk to my home office I won’t take the job.
Back in the 90’s and 2000’s my commute ranged between 30-60 minutes by car one way to a combination of 15 minutes driving and 30-45 minutes on a subway.
Since shortly before the pandemic my commute has been up a flight of stairs to our guest bedroom that’s now my office.
I’m never going back.
I hounded my boss for a year when COVID hit to make it permanent. Worth every bit of annoying him.
I met a lawyer working in Boston & living in the burbs a number of years ago. When Covid hit he worked from home for over a year. His job was one that could easily be remote, but like so many others, his boss eventually wanted him back in the office. His boss did admit that continuing to work remotely would have been an option if he lived further away.
He & his girlfriend moved to Vermont, and he still has that job.
I have diabetic retinopathy and about 10 years ago, I saw enough blind spots that I stopped driving. My company accommodated me by letting me work from home. We already had another employee who was doing that for vision issues, it was simple to do.
Because we were successful, they replaced our desktops with laptops at refresh time and started letting everyone work from home 1 day a week. Then when Covid hit, they just told everyone to bring their laptops home and WFH full time. The CEO talked about return-to-office for a year or two but decided to make it optional.
It’s an amazing benefit. It gave me back about 90 minutes every day, and my dog doesn’t have to be crated during the day. I can sleep later and have access to my own kitchen for lunch. Theres a reason that average tenure in my department is around 20 years.
Sounds legit, I turned down multiple higher roles in my last company after doing a test commute to the more remote office. It was consistently 90-120 minutes each way. That would end up with me be away at work for 12-13 hours each day for 8 hours of paid work.
Had a similar experience. Job wanted me but I’m not spending 2 hours commuting.
This was before remote work was a common thing.
take the train Jane (refresh your brain)
Just get on the bus, gus
I personally hit a wall at 41 minutes of in-car travel time for a daily commute. I’ve timed it. Every second after that feels like a whole level of abnormal waiting, a kind of cold torture or injustice that you must wade through to to your destination. It’s not a healthy headspace at all. I’ve naturally sought out shorter commutes after this revelation, and yeah, the 30 minute estimate seems right.
I used to have about an hour long commute, and I kinda enjoyed it. I had shit to do at work, and shit to do at home, so being in the car for a while really let me calm down and center myself most of the time.
I get it, but I just can’t get to that place mentally in stop-and-go-bumper-to-bumper traffic for that long. Not even half that long. If that was a nice 50mph cruise the whole time, sure.
Traffic jams make driving infinitely worse. It requires so much more attention.
About 73 for me most of the way. An hour of bumper to bumper, or commuting on a bus would probably make it worse.
Imagine you had 2hours more every day so you could work through the todo at home and enjoy the rest of your time at home or anywhere else that is neither your work nor your car.
Valid point, but I guess after working in a greenhouse for a season I learned to appreciate having time to sit still in AC. My old Crown Vic wasn’t such a bad place to be (cost an arm and leg in gas and oil, so that was a definite downside).
Marchetti never went to NYC.
Or Kansas… there aren’t a great many urban centers with diverse job markets so people routinely commute in from over an hour at my workplace.
I was thinking that it sounded about right, until I read beyond the headline:
Its value is approximately one hour, or half an hour for a one-way trip.
WHAT. I thought he meant one hour each way!
Are there any cities where that is the norm??? I’ve had sub-30 commutes in my life, and it felt like the height of luxury.
I had a 1.5 hour (one way) commute for a while, and I was burned the fuck out after a year of that. It takes a toll on your health.
This is my current hell. When I started it was 3x/week so it wasn’t too bad, but now it’s 4, and there’s a “rumor” that it’s gonna go back to full time in at some point. Thanks for the motivation to get my next certification as fast as possible I guess, because I’m already working on exit strategies.
Marchetti was from Italy. That explains it.
Or LA
Or San Francisco. My longest commute was 3.5 hours each way. Average over 15 years there was 90 minutes.
Same in Montréal, it’s a fucking island and everyone lives outside of it, there’s not so many bridges so it’s 1h each way or more.
holyshitwhatthefuck?
The longest days are like tacking on a whole 'nother day.
Yeah, it sucked, but the pay was great, and I really wanted to work for the company.
I was thinking about it and I know of some electricians who happily commute three hours no traffic to certain jobsites to work 5 10’s and pocket the per diem
