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that is a constant in Dragon Ball.
enemies get defeated, surpasseda and then they become entourage
Piccolo noooooooooooooo!
The list of opponents Goku agrees need to be eliminated is much shorter than the list of ones he wants to fight again when they are stronger. Despite most of them after the start of DBZ being existential threats.
Though he goes back and forth on Frieza lol.
Frankly speaking Frieza has somewhat mellowed out, probably the end result of being killed and sent to hell a couple times. He went from let’s genocide the filthy monkeys to let’s torture the filthy monkeys, which is progress I guess.
I’m not sure if the anime will ever get there, but if you read the manga past the end of Super (which ends on the Tournament of Destruction saga last I checked, like the one with Jiren, and then the Brolly movie), there’s more Frieza development. Btw I suggest reading even the parts at the start; it’s more of a companion piece than the retelling of the exact same story on a different medium. There is overlap between them, of course, but also a bunch of not overlap. Like Zamasu is more fleshed out and his whole path makes more sense in the manga.
Anime has more fighting, manga has more story telling.
Eh I’ll stick with Z super and the newer stuff isn’t really my thing.
I’m in the cell saga of dbz. Do those dragonball goons, the girl and the fox and the little blue baby tyrant ever come back?
Yes, but you’re decades away lmao
Oh jeez, so like… In super or something. That’s amazing. Does Lunch ever come back after z? They just did her so dirty…
Hmm… She appears on and off at Kame House I think, but mainly as a background character. Agreed they did her dirty.
Toriyama pulled a D&D and kinda forgot about her
Super or GT, if memory serves right Pilaf (the blue gremlin) is the instigator of GT.
That’s the best part of the whole series IMO. I loved cell as a villain.
It was hilarious watching Dragon Ball after growing up on Dragon Ball Z. When Yamcha shows up and is a threat I lost it.
Why did they posted a picture of Team Rocket? Does Pokémon actually have more villains?
Team rocket is basically the mafia, and then gen 3 has team aqua and magma, one of which wants to remove basically all water and the other wants to basically remove all land.
I think that’s a pretty drastic shift.
idk for more recent seasons, but i know the xyz and sun & moon arcs had more serious villains (especially xyz)
Giovanni is the big bad in the early seasons iirc. No clue how the show progressed past that though but there was always a more serious organization looming (ie Team Aqua and Magma, Mewtwo in the movie are the only ones I can think of right now…)
“Supernatural” in a word
Captain cold in cw flash
I don’t think that’s fair as Captain Cold was never a credible threat to a speedster in the first place
Just about nothing but another speedster is. The dude can think and move faster that the speed of light, he spent an entire episode in the split second it took for a nuke to go off. The fact that he’s constantly getting his ass kicked is a flaw of the character more than the writing IMO (though don’t get me wrong, the writing was also bad).
I loved in the first season and then again whenever Zoom happened where you’d get him saying at the end of the intro “My name is Barry Allen, and I’m the fastest man alive”, immediately followed up with “Previously on The Flash: (highlight of him being outrun and beaten up by another guy)”
Nah the problem with the CW Flash is the writing, other shows and continuities have done the flash well. For example Wally West in the old animated universe is great, the thing is though he is also on the weaker end. The problem that the CW caused for themselves is that they gave Barry too much power and a team that was too large too early.
This same process is why u stop watching cop/detective dramas as soon as a protagonist gets kidnapped.
- This happens 100% of the time, usually 3 season in
- You know they’ve gone from procedural to full on drama at this point
- The quality always drops off a cliff here
Anybody remember that season of hawaii five-0 where they spent like half the episodes almost killing danno
I remember a lot of really bad product placement for windows phone and cars
I stopped before the final season though
Yeah that was always dumb and annoying.
Examples?
Castle, Bones, Law & Order SVU, The Rookie (though it still has good episodes, the protagonists get kidnapped a lot tho), NCIS, Criminal Minds (again, multiple times), Hawaii 5 0 refresh, CSI, Monk…
…this is making me realize that I watch very few procedural detective shows, apparently. I think SVU is the only one of these I’ve seen, at all.
I haven’t watched most of these in a long long time
The Rookie is pretty good though
I read it as SUV.
And now I imagine a detective show in the Cars universe.
Title character being a grumpy SUV detective with a Keicar as the comedic sidekick
NTSF:SD:SUV is the only true crime detective show.
Is this a good example?
Sort of, except he was probably the smartest of the lot by cloning himself, and then one of them got smart enough to off all the other clones. By himself he was manageable. He had the luck or foresight to cause problems when other problems granted the opportunistic window.
That too, but also, he sort of downgraded the egoistic Goa’ulds seeking to be Gods to like… somewhat grandiose villains who know they’re villains and don’t delude themselves about being gods. Also, he then joined with SG1 to fight the… the… ohmygod. I need to either lower the amount of Ambien I take or rewatch SG1. The baddies from the other galaxy. I won’t google it I’m gonna let that fester until I remember it.
Ori ? Ancient but with a big fuck you to your face ?
Villainflation
I heard that something like this happened in an old superman villain. It took one season to defeat him. But later they defeat two by throwing a table at them
Artemis Entreri
“But the as the stakes”
But not the Joker.
Hercule.
Dude didn’t even have super strength.
Yeah, but you know shit’s about to get real when he summons all the characters into the drawing room.
and then you have the venture bros, where the monarch starts off as goofy and ineffectual but becomes more menacing as the series goes on and the stakes get higher
I didn’t realise that “Venture Bros” was a TV series and thought you were talking about Silicon Valley tech bros and venture capitalists and was like “sounds about right”.
They did fucking stellar work with the character growth. I normally hate the “you need to give it a couple seasons” kind of thing, but Venture Bros did so well to have a moment where you feel the tone start to change, and somehow, the goofier start ends up working in the shows favor.
I will never look at a Homies the same way again.
wait i’ve just described ordinary (if incredibly well done) character development
If anyone is a victim of “Villain Decay” in the Venture Bros its Brock Sampson. The Swedish Murder Machine is practically a teddy bear by the final arc.
Villain Cay
Alternate name for Epstein Island
And then you have real life, where… well… shit
Supposedly harmless asshole to fascist cult leader is actually pretty common. Hitler’s rise was similar.
Only to rivals, though. His plots against Rusty stayed pretty slapstick and harmless. They even worked together in a late season.
between the death’s head panoply, the butter glider, and the scarionette cannon? i’d definitely say he upped his game from the dreaded candiru and the deadly cloud of deception slash diversion.
beyond that, going from threatening bodily harm to financial ruin was definitely a glow-up in my opinion.
I had the season 5 torture scene in my head, where rusty is entirely unaffected by every torment while being held captive.
“YOU ABANDONED MY HATRED!”
The one thing missing from my life is being able to scream like the monarch
Also goddamn the Monarch is one of the best-written villains of all time.
My brother recommended Venture Bros. to me since I like the recent Harley Quinn series. I need to start watching it sometime.
Oh, its easily one of my top 10 all time TV shows, personally. It’s smartly written from start to finish. Absolutely worth your time.
Upon a moment more thought, I’d reckon it may sit as high as #3 or 4. It’s damn near perfect.
I haven’t even watched the full thing but only caught episodes here and there and can tell it’s top tier just based on those. I need to give it a real watch so I can appreciate how it all comes together.
As mentioned elsewhere, the first season or two is kinda rough animation-wise, but it’s truly a masterpiece. If you’re an 80s/90s kid, it’s even better because they lampoon a lot from that era, specifically (but abstractly) Johnny quest.
That’s three times Venture Bros have come up for me this week, guess that means its time for another re-watch. :logs into Nightreign as The Bat:
Don’t forget the movie between seasons Uhh… 4 and 5 I think? I didn’t know it existed and was very confused.
Isn’t there just the one movie, which is the series finale? Unless you’re talking about one of the holiday specials.
Found it, it’s the 2015 special between seasons 5 and 6 and has a bunch of plot stuff.
Jesse and James were always effective, they just suck at villainy. They are good at dressing up, making rube-goldberg devices, and many other things, they just aren’t evil enough to elevate that potential. If they were, Giovanni would be sleeping with the magi-karp, and Ash would be eaten by their Arbok.
good at dressing up
Ah yes, I still remember questioning my sexuality over James when I watched pokemon as a teenager. Good times
Was that with or without his massive tits?
Haha they were crazy, totally forgot this episode existed
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What was the answer to the questioning?
Its always a maybe!
I found that I‘m attracted to rather feminine people, although gender/genitals don‘t really matter to me.
Idk how to label that if that‘s what you‘re asking
I’m guessing you smashed Miquella?
In every aspect, yes. Poor Radahn got his consort stolen I guess
damn you, Kakarot!
