She’s embarked on a nationwide tour with Vermont’s Independent Senator Bernie Sanders, held town halls outside of her district in upstate New York, and raised $15 million
Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a progressive who has cemented her popularity with young voters, is reportedly considering running for president or the Senate in 2028.
Ocasio-Cortez, 35, made a splash when she was elected to represent New York’s 14th congressional district, located in the Bronx and Queens, in 2019. Now, the Democrat is reportedly considering taking the next step in her political career as the party searches for its next generation of leaders, Axios reported Friday.
Members of Ocasio-Cortez’s team have recently been positioning the progressive lawmaker, known as AOC, to either run for president or run for a Senate seat.
More likely she’s running for senate.
I know I’m a day late here replying but this narrative is just antiquated like our entire system. If we want to keep at this, we don’t need her after a stint in the Senate, we need her now. What exactly will she gain by going that route? Because it’s the best way to gain respect? Maybe she’ll get some experience?
Look, statistically you are right. But let’s run the facts, normal is just a setting on the dryer and we’re not playing by the standard rulebook anymore.
Why do you think this?
I’m not the guy you’re responding to, but historically it’s been a lot easier to be taken seriously after a stint in the Senate. Hard to say if that’s still the case, we live in weird times, but the Democrat establishment is a lot more bound by tradition than Republicans, and it frequently leads them astray.
It’s very possible with a coalition formed through other recent success stories like Mamdani, she’s concluded that a coup of sorts is possible (and I mean that with the utmost excitement). They might have numbers showing now is the time to capitalize on a ground swell and really shift the party. I’m assuming they’ve got some sort of data backing this, even if it’s just “we don’t know if we can win but we know the establishment Democrats will lose”
Ah yes, I remember when Trump became a Senator.
Fun stats: 17 U.S. presidents were previously U.S. senators, and also 17 were previously state governors (additionally, Harrison and Taft were territorial governors, and Jackson was military governor of the territory of Florida).
Six U.S. presidents had held previously both governor and U.S. senator roles, including Jackson and Harrison’s non-state governorships.
5 U.S. presidents were not elected to public office prior to holding the presidency - Taylor, Grant, Hoover, Eisenhower, and Trump.
She is one of only two people I would be excited to vote for.
The other person is Jon Stewart.
I want Dolly Parton.
“Plotting”? Wtf is this wording?
Propaganda, as is usual
It worked so hard. I’m voting for her because this means she’s serious.
AOC is instrumenting a plot of running for office, while MAGA is merely preparing for another coup.
She’s plotting against the democratic establishment that wants to nominate another creepy fash loser.
That’s kind of how the article frames this. She’s popular with young voters, but would be jumping ahead of “established” “Democrats”. Very stupid framing since the establishment has failed us so consistently.
Please please please
Look if she comes out of the box swinging, and I mean haymakers both left and right, she could do it. The DNC has to have an honest to god real primary and not the horse shit they pulled with Bernie or the last-minute Harris takeover.
If AOC wins a primary and is nominated, hits the ground at a full sprint, doesn’t pull punches on either side of the political spectrum, prays to Jah, and crosses her fingers she could do a Billy Clint or Obama. She is going to have to learn to play the Saxophone, confess to smoking weed and inhaling, slow jam the news, and probably host a full episode of SNL not just appear as herself in a sketch. If she did all that and she convinces Jesus to come down from on high and endorse her she has a 50/50 chance.
Oh, and she’ll need a gun for her purse like that bargain bin Barbie from Colorado or the dude from Georgia’s 14th congressional district.
I think both oligarchs and corporatists alike will fight far too hard to take her down. The US would need a far more fair and democratic procedure to elect someone that would change the paradigm like AOC–especially since Citizens United.
But why is there such this defeatist attitude any time someone remotely not terrible tries to do something? It’s like we’re doing the fascists work for them with talk like this. I get that fuckery happens any time someone kinda different or kinda maybe good (for a politician) steps up, but that can be overcome with more support. When the margins are thin, it’s easy for them to cheat. When they aren’t, it’s fucking not. So let’s stop making the margins tighter with this kind of talk
They want to be proven right when things go poorly, increasing the odds of that happening in the process.
Super PACs are the fuckery that happens any time someone steps up–and AOC wants justice–she is not an interest for them. We need to stop thinking it is a just world and think like they do. We need need an interest for Super PACs and we need to use that to replace SCOTUS and the majority of Congress. The doddering degenerates in office are an embarrassment. The three branches are littered with dolts and ignorant bigots.
This is all true. But my point is, we have to start somewhere. And politicians are an okay place to start. But they can’t be where we end. They are a small piece of the puzzle. But when we bring defeatism to every single part of the equation, before we try anything in earnest, then no one will ever get anywhere and things will continue to get worse and worse. We need our generations stepping up, and as much as it pains me to say, that includes politicians. We can’t trust them any further than they can be thrown, but they are still a part of the solution that we need.
Have you ever tried suggesting other parts of the solution? Strikes, collective action, mutual aid, etc? Because any time anything more than a weekend march gets suggested, people always, always, always sound a lot like your first comment where they just start listing reasons they can’t work or will be foiled. Why is that? We are conditioned by a lifetime of the system telling us it’s inevitable and everlasting. But it’s not the only way, and we need to start moving toward a different way. That starts somewhere, and if wherever it starts is poo-poo’ed at the first suggestion, then we are beyond fucked. We need momentum, and once it starts, it will seem like it was always going to go that way. So let’s let it start naturally, without the defeatism literally before we even get started righting the ship.
“We have to climb this mountain.”
“But look at that rock, and that stumbling block, and imagine how tired you will get before you can get up there! And look at your shoes, you’re not going to make it in those shoes. You’ll get blisters, and you’ll be sooo thirsty!”
Etc. etc. See my point?
Sigh.
Look. I like her. I like her fighting spirit. I like that she gives a shit. I like it all.
But when is this country going to learn? Look around you. Our culture is trash. This country is overflowing with racists and sexists and incels. Look at where we are right now.
We’ve tried to elect a woman twice in a row. They were both WAY more qualified than their opponent. And they lost. I voted for both of them.
If we run AOC, they’ll run a white male bigot. And they’ll win. Again. Using the same tactics.
Know your audience.
Damn, guess we better appeal to the sexists and racists, there is just no other option. You are very smart.
I’m not sure the racists and sexists and incels are gonna vote for the Democrat candidate even if it was a literal clone of Donald Trump, solely because it’s the Democratic candidate
Yes please if only for her age. I want old people out of power and I mean that across the entire spectrum including Bernie sanders. He would be great in her cabinet but we need young people FFS
Why? I’m all for AOC and it has nothing to do with her age. I don’t see anything magical about someone’s age when it comes to setting policy. I like AOC, but I also like wisdom and experience.
Can’t have it both ways, the same people who complain about the geriatric GOP also want Bernie. You can follow his policy but it’s ridiculous at his age to have him in the White House
You won’t see me complaining about the GOP simply because some of them might be “geriatric”. It’s their policies that are the issue. JD seems very fresh-faced to me, but that guy is the front-man for some truly crazy shit.
I would gladly have age and term limits over Bernie. He is a good fella, but fact of the matter is, there isn’t enough good people of his age to serve alongside him. We need young cohorts of likeminded and idealistic people that are regularly renewed, and I would gladly exchange Bernie’s political position for something that could fix future politicians.
Unfortunately, we cannot sacrifice Bernie’s political future for that. I believe we will be seeing many innocent people die before American politics are changed for the better.
Bernie probably should have stepped down after the 2016 election cycle and promoted a younger left-wing candidate for his seat, then he could have spent the last near-decade putting the weight of his name behind other young left-wing politicians.
Geriatrics running the country don’t have to worry about personally experiencing any of the negative long term consequences of their actions.
Maybe, but if they are progressive and/or have basic empathy and understanding, they understand the morality of planting a seed you may never see become a tree.
Young demons that have been radicalized by The Algorithm and the GOP are not going to GAF if they have the wrong ethics, no matter what age they are.
But we’re repeatedly seeing most geriatric politicians not have basic empathy, especially on one side.
I also think, at the very least, if they’re a young narcissist, they at least are thinking they’ll be alive another 40-50 years and want a world, versus the ones who know time is running out.
Perspective and optics. The millennials were robbed of their chance on the world stage by the boomers. The boomers perspective doesn’t work for what the world is now. People need to see a representation of themselves up there. A representative of the people for the people by the people yada yada yada
The millennials were robbed of their chance on the world stage by the boomers.
Gen X over there like “What the fuck!?!” (I’m a millennial, I get the plight.)
If AOC is the candidate, it will be the first time since Bernie that I will phone bank, knock down doors, canvas … Whatever it takes.
She is one of the few people in politics that I can get behind.
I hope she wins
she might win, but she wont “win”.
So AOC vs Erika Kirk?
Mixed feelings; still figuring out my emotions surrounding this. My immediate inclination is to want to say “become a Senator or Gov. first.”
She’s not actually. I don’t think she’s that stupid as to think she’d be able to overcome the bias of the democratic party establishment in just 2 years. What’s she and Bernie are trying to do is galvanize the apathetic left into standing up and fighting rather than just sitting on social media and complaining about how everything sucks. What is needed is huge numbers of people to come out and vote like their lives depend on it (cause they do).
if Gavin Newsome becomes the democratic front runner, Bernie Sanders coming to my house to convince me, in person, to vote for him would fail. sorry but i am one too many neo liberal canidate spent. it will never happen again.
I’m putting my chips on Pritzker. Newsome can go jump in a lake.
I’d vote for Pritzker over Newsome, but I’d rather AoC, or even better Luigi.
I’d vote for Pritzker over Newsome, but I’d rather AoC
Yes well I would personally love to see AOC become president as well. But I live in the real world where there is a definite bias within the Democratic party against strong leftists like her and Bernie Sanders. I mean just look at the mayoral election in New York City. Even if Mamdani wins, it won’t change the attitude of the party elites. They will just double down on trying to quash anymore leftist inroads into the party. That particular change needs to happen from the ground up, as in we the people need to push them as hard as possible to the left. And try to get them to drop the neoliberal philosophy that is dominated the Democratic party for the last 40 years. That why the NYC election is important. Him winning will help other leftists to galvanize left leaning people across rhe country to challenge the DNC elites and thats where we can really affect change, by supporting those candidates the way Mamdani was supported by voters in NYC.
or even better Luigi
I’m pretty certain this is said for shock value. But if i were to directly address it, this is just insane talk. No matter what I think about healthcare executives and what they might or might not deserve. Luigi Mangione is a disturbed individual who needs serious psychiatric help. Murder is not ok.
Brian Thomson, the scumbag CEO of United Healthcare, was probably responsible for thousands, if not tens of thousands, of deaths by the systematic denial of service to paying customers. If one psychopath kills another, how do we determine which is worse? You, my friend, are a boot-licking clown. When you get cancer, I hope Thompson’s replacement tells you to go pound sand.
Helathcare CEO’s have no problem with murder as long as they can claim their actions are just saving money. Murdering healthcare CEO’s literally saves lives.
Fox has propagandized the right to hate her to such an immense degree that this simply is a terrible idea. She can never win.
Why is it a problem that the right hate her? They’re not voting for her anyway. Modern US elections are won by motivating new people on your own side to vote, not by reaching across the aisle.
Well the propaganda doesn’t only work on the right.
Also, the youngest elected president in history was 43. She has zero chance.
Why does that matter? She’s well over the age limit, and we’ve been getting the oldest president ever quite a few times. The US is all about overcompensating, so I don’t see why we couldn’t swing back to the youngest ever by a small margin. She’s nearly 36 now, so she’ll be 39 when the term starts. I’d certainly be excited about the prospect of having a president who grew up with electricity.
Im sorry youre getting down voted, because youre right. Sorry to be a downer but I interact with real people (unlike i presume a lot of lemmings), and a LOT of them do not like her, for reasons spread by propaganda news all over the place. They know nothing other than she’s a woman and will take yer guns, so she will never win.
I hope we are wrong though.
So the way I could see this working for her is have Bernie Sanders come and endorse her right out the gate (I doubt he’d be up for being her running mate, but it’d probably be an even better run if he accepted that).
Ol’ boy had been VERY effective at breaking into right - leaning spaces and I could see him contributing to getting the historically Democrat (but not recently Democrat) voter out for AOC.
My real concern is the party leaders. I could see them trying to hold back resources and effectively pulling the same moves they pulled in Bernie to hold her down.
