J.D. Vance’s lead in the polls could be collapsing because of his association with Trump, according to an expert

J.D. Vance’s chances of becoming the GOP nominee for president in 2028 have taken a dive, according to a new poll.

The survey looking at potential successors to Donald Trump has seen the vice-president’s lead in a list of theoretical candidates narrow significantly in recent months.

And in the most recent poll in November, the Vance’s margin continued to fall. According to the survey of 439 voters conducted between November 17 and 24, Vance’s lead over Trump Jr had plummeted to just 10 points. The latest results put Vance at 34% and Trump Jr at 24%.

Trump’s polling figures have collapsed in recent months, with every major poll giving Trump a negative rating for the first time ever.

Even a Fox News poll suggested that 61% of respondents think that Trump’s administration has damaged the economy, with just 3% approving of his economic strategy.

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    If he wants to ever be president, he needs to either invoke the 25th amendment or get on board with impeachment.

    I dreamed that trump was impeached again and this time the Senate voted 50-50. Couch fucker was the tie-breaking vote, and he voted to convict, effectively electing himself president.

    It’s disheartening that this wasn’t a good dream, but it was still too good to realistically hope for.

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      Impeachment will never happen. The guy in question is a convicted felon. What is impeachment going to do that it failed to do the other times he’s been impeached?

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      The House needs over 50% to impeach. The Senate needs 2/3 or 67 vote to convict so there wouldn’t be a situation where a tiebreaker comes into play.

      It is nice to dream though…

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    Dude is awkward. Like, so fucking awkward that I’d feel bad for him if he wasn’t also a piece of shit. Really thought he was thinking of ditching his wife for Erica Kirk but that would be awful AND stupid.

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    I bet the orange cancer PEDOnald is soiling his pre-soiled pants at the mere thought of Vance trying to be next Preznit.

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    Well, Vance was right about one thing. And I suspect most of Lemmy agrees, since no one posted about it yesterday, and we’re not supposed to agree with anything fascists say.

    He said no one really likes turkey, no one cares about cooking turkey except on Thanksgiving because it’s expected of them. For poultry, chicken is superior.

    Couldn’t agree more. I think it’s high time we stop doing things simply because they’re expected, if we don’t actually like them.

    My family doesn’t do a whole turkey. We do a turkey breast, but we also do ham and barbecue. People have a choice. The best of the turkey, plus pork. We even had pot roast yesterday, so beef as well.

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      Bruh why are you acting like anyone is forcing you to eat anything for Thanksgiving? Eat whatever you want, and we will eat whatever we want, no matter what you and your bud JD think about it.

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        So let me get this straight — someone has an opinion you disagree with, and you think they’re forcing something upon you? Touch grass.

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      Turkey vs. chicken? Kinda mid, really.

      My family is vegetarian, so we definitely know about what “expectations” are when it comes to something like Thanksgiving, LOL.

      When it comes to “JD” “Vance”'s observation about turkey vs. chicken (turkey is dry AF and most people tend not to really go for it all that often?), I guess I’ve heard wags saying that nearly all my life, so kudos for his bravery on that.

      I’d be more impressed if I were to see a prominent Republican go vegan or vegetarian and do it openly. I suspect most of them are so locked up in their delusional protein and/or masculinity myths that they’d never do it. They are too afraid of what other men might think of them, or what their base would think of them.

      https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-08-13/vance-vegetarian-politics-red-meat-gop

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      I’m disagreeing because people eat Turkey all of the time. Most people don’t do a whole bird bc it’s too much. But pound for pound, that’s a lot of protein for the price so it’s better than beef, chicken, etc.

      Also, someone has to make a whole Turkey so people can put that shit on sandwiches every day.

      Also, I just think your disrespect for dark meat is unforgivable.

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        Yeah, I mean I eat turkey for protein too, but you don’t have to cook a whole ass 25 pound bird to eat turkey. You can buy turkey breasts, turkey legs, etc., but mostly people prefer other meats — specifically chicken, as far as fowl goes.

        But Vance was saying (and I agree) that people don’t cook it as regularly as they do chicken, or burgers, or even, say, pork chops, because they don’t love it as much as they pretend to on Thanksgiving. Politics entirely aside, speaking only on the food, I think he’s right.

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          But Vance was saying (and I agree) that people don’t cook it as regularly as they do chicken, or burgers, or even, say, pork chops, because they don’t love it as much as they pretend to on Thanksgiving.

          Nope That’s not at all what he was saying, you’re trying to move the goalposts now. I looked it up and here is the quote of what he said:

          “Think about turkey. Who really likes … be honest with yourself, who really likes turkey?” Vance told troops on Wednesday during remarks from Fort Campbell, Ky. “You are all full of s—. Everybody who raised your hands.”

          “Here’s how I know that every single one of you who raised your hand is lying to me. How many times do you roast an 18-pound turkey just randomly? Just you know, a nice summer afternoon, we’re going to go get an 18-pound turkey.”

          So, he asked “Who really likes turkey?” and called everyone who raised their hands “full of shit”. He said “every single one of you who raised your hand is lying to me.”

          He appears to actually believe that because he doesn’t like turkey, then no one else likes turkey either and if they say they do, they’re lying. How fucked up is that? He also seems to believe that you would have to cook an entire turkey if you want to eat any turkey. It’s bizarre and out of touch with how normal people live.

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        I saw that clip… Its normal current-level unhinged. In times past, it would have been a black mark and his colleages would use it to mock him for ages, and it would cost him elections… But in [current year] its Tuesday…

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      Um, lots of people like turkey and eat it all the time. You don’t have to cook an entire turkey just like you don’t have to cook a whole cow if you like beef. You can buy small amounts at the store or deli. The reason so many people cook a whole turkey at Thanksgiving is because they are feeding a large group of people. … I can’t believe I’m actually sitting here typing an explanation of this.

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      Of course there will be a completely free and fair, totally not rigged election, and not a hint of voter suppression. It is America after all. I suspect with the job he’s doing there will be about 93% trump voters, give or take a few points, across the board.

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      My hopes were very low a few months ago, but right now, the tides are turning and I think his time may have come. If the entire party isn’t with him in lockstep, his efforts to remain as king will not succeed.

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    I’m not sure if there’s anybody in the Republican Party that is a viable candidate, much less JD Vance. The Republican’s message may be populist but their motivations are pure greed and authoritarianism and a lot of red state voters are finally waking up to that fact.