US forces have seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela, in a major escalation of Donald Trump’s four-month pressure campaign against the South American country’s dictator, Nicolás Maduro.
So what determines if oil is being used by terrorists? Hella vague
Oh, so now it is even piracy! Well done tRump, you orange fuck.
2 two things america likes most: oil and drugs. No wonder they had to do it
Shame. Also fuck you Amerikkka!
USA Piracy
Immediately proves what the war is really about
What the man. What the fuck are we doing?
This is not at all like America. I’m quite shocked, really.
Missing an /s?
You did it in iraq already
Why are americans surprised witht his? Also why isnt the american left on streets yet against this iraq war 2.0?
This is what the USA has done for its entire history, bullying oil-rich countries that don’t submit to US imperialism
if the us were a socialist country, we WOULDN’T rely on imperialism so much. seriously!
I hate trump as anyone else here but reading into this it looks like an absolutely legal and normal procedure?
The ship in question named Skipper was already sanctioned since 2022 for transporting Iranian oil to fund Hezbolah. So minus conflict escalation with Venezuela this seems like a good thing? Hezbolah is an incredibly evil terrorist organization and cutting off it’s funding is good.
I’m not typically a betting man, but I would be willing to go all in on that not being the reason they seized the ship.
This administration tends to do what comes natural to them first (do illegal shit) and then search for an excuse later for why it was necessary when confronted about it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually came to the same conclusion that you did, but only after Trump or one of his stooges brags about doing it for other reasons.
I feel like people are taking the bait here in siding with Iran and Hezbolah just to spite Trump. Both things can be bad and it’s kinda important to be woke to these games rather than blindly oppose everything.
People keep underestimating Trump and his stooges. Sure they are stupid but they do have a plan and they do scheme.
Fair enough.
Sanctioned by the US. This means the ship is free to trade with other countries. It wasn’t heading to the US. This is an illegal act.
That’s not how these types sanctions work though. It’s much more broad than “you can’t pass our waters” and it’s perfectly legal to board sanctioned ships in international waters.
AFAIK this is legal though I care much more about ethics than legalities as citizen of neither of these countries.
Unless it’s by the state it was registered in, it is not legal to do so, except in cases of piracy, slave transport, or when the ship is stateless.
Sure seems like you read a lot of Israeli propaganda there.
How it is legal to seize a ship from another country when it isn’t even close to your coast? Are you so brainwashed you can call this normal?
I’m not a lawyer but afaik the sanctioned ships are treated kinda like “legal piracy” as country can board it even in international waters if it knows it’s performing a sanctioned operation like transferring goods to a place it’s not allowed to or the ship is stateless or sneaky (no transponder etc).
At the end of the day these legalities are purely made up to satisfy treaties rather than ethics or rationality so it’s silly to try to look for rational meaning here.
The law holds that states cannot commit piracy. That is solely a crime for private entities.
Ships can only fall under the jurisdiction of the country of registration, the country in whose coastal waters the ship is in, or - in exceptional circumstances of piracy, slavery or statelessness of the ship - anyone.
No that’s simply not true
Usually it wouldn’t be, but there are exceptions for piracy and slaving. There is also an exception for vessels without nationality. Skipper had been fraudulently flying the flag of Guyana, who confirmed no such ship exists on their register. The US could argue it was therefore stateless.
“Hezbolah is an incredibly evil terrorist organization”
Based on? What metric are you using for this? Or do we kill people based on your genocidal white vibes?
Or is it “that’s what I hear on CNN and Fox who tell me that Saddam’s WMD’s are about to be definitely foubd any second now?”
Lol only on lemmy.megalosers you can find Hezbolah defenders. Go away troll.
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Remember, USA is against piracy lmao
Whelp that’s a casus belli…
Ship siezures are not, under international law.
In another timeline, Hegseth confusingly bombed the oil tanker and blamed Biden.
Piracy.
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USA turns into Taliban country. Taliban originaly is “political and militant organization with an ideology comprising elements of the Deobandi movement of Islamic fundamentalism and Pashtun nationalism”, now is just “political and militant organization with an ideology comprising elements of the MAGA movement of Evangelical fundamentalism and WASP nationalism”
Y’all Queda
USA doing the most USA thing possible
Lemmitor: WHAT ARE WE, A BUNCH OF MUSLIMS?!!
Oilllll
Lemmings
Taliban
Remember when the CIA funded and armed what became the Taliban?
Remember when the CIA had their guy running the Taliban?
Who was there guy that ran it? Never heard that one before.
Tom Hanks.
Oh, maybe I’m conflating the Taliban with Al-Qaeda a bit (and [for the next part of this] maybe even ISIS too a bit? idk) ~ I’m no Whitney Webb for this stuff, so do use several websearch engines likely to be honest about this stuff for yourself, but…
Tim Osman? (Whom you may know by another name.)
Then after that there was that guy they once called a terrorist, then put a suit on and invited to the white house… I’m terrible with names… was it… Ahmed al-Sharaa/Abu Mohammad al-Julani?
Hard to keep track if not paying close attention.
Hard to keep paying close attention after seeing the same old ploys and fakery played out over and over.
“Pick up the gun”
“You all saw him. He had a gun.”
