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still better than America
The PRC, a one party state which puts ethnic minorities in internment camps, is better than the democratic USA, which AFAIK hasn’t put ethnic minorities in internment camps since WW2?
Of course the USA is a very flawed country, especially their current government, but it seems to me that the PRC is a pretty repressive regime with less political freedom than the USA.
which AFAIK hasn’t put ethnic minorities in internment camps since WW2?
Oh, I have some news for you…
Maybe you mean high levels of ethnic minorities in US prisons, but I don’t think that’s the same as specifically persecuting Uyghurs in “education” centres where they are apparently raped and tortured.
Like I said, yes the US is flawed, especially their current government, but I still think the US government is not as oppressive as the PRC government. Another example of this is the recent sentencing of Jimmy Lai to 20 years in prison, seemingly only because he supported the democracy movement in the PRC.
Nazi goons are literally roaming American streets, arbitrarily executing people and shipping off brown people and other “undesirables” to mystery prisons in other countries.
Perhaps it’s possible that both the current governments of the US and PRC are doing immoral things. I think the US has a bit more political freedom though.
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A simple case of killing 2 birds with 1 stone: An economically sane decision can be presented as being ethical to generate good publicity with saps all around the world. Particularly effective now that the USA is in such a bad place that people like to sing China’s praises instead.
Chinese government do same things on Uyghurs lol
The question is why and I do not trust the CCP and PLA as far as I can kick them.
Wait, this broken clock has the right time on it
Cool story bro
It is
They’re just reading the room. They’re not doing it because they think israel is bad, they’re doing it because it’s economically disastrous to do so. Within the next few years the US will be in the same position if it keeps going the way it is. We’ll be too “high risk.”
I disagree. The epstein files prove how captured the entire american political apparatus is by pissrael. In fact, pissrael has done so, to most Global North countries. China taking this stance is actually pretty big when you consider that and the geopolitical implications of declaring their opposition to the American empire.
The more I learn about China, the more I like. Mostly.
Why is China the only country reading the room?
blackmail
China’s the only country Israel can’t blackmail?
Others don’t want to be antisemitic /s (probably they still get a ton of money out of it)
Fucking China showing how it’s fucking done! Way to go!
This is not a moral standing, the basis is that Israel is deemed too risky.
Yeah you’re probably right about that.
I mean… Tibet, Uighurs, etc
Sorry, Double post.
since the outbreak of the war in Israel, Beijing has classified Israel as a “high-risk area” and imposed a ban on any new Chinese investments in the country,
This is not a moral standing by China, it’s 100% pragmatic deeming Israel a high risk area.
There is no reason to call China “based” or any other such crazy comments we see here.true
Why isn’t any other country making this pragmatic choice?
They don’t care? They don’t have a right over private investments?
A lot of countries have stopped at least some of their dealings with Israel, especially weapons export and import.
Mind you we don’t have an official source that this is true for China, only 1 company that wants to get out of a deal in Israel.As far as I can tell it’s not “especially” weapons export, it’s exclusively weapons export. European arms embargoes are good, but China seems to have gone farther here and stands alone in willing to do a larger general ban. According to the article it’s not just one company, China has declared that Israel is a “red zone” for investors and have prohibited any investment. Though, sure, this might actually just be something being made up for the lawsuit.
The pragmatic choice would be to continue investing in Israel, which is why everyone else still does it.
Wow, I do have to admit that China is on a roll these days.
Then again, it ain’t hard acting like a nice guy with trump around.
They are absolutely going to pull ahead on the world stage, whatever that really means.
But if you have lived in America all your life and been told how we’re the gleaming city on the mountain, the land of milk-and-honey and all that pabulum we’ve been fed for decades and decades, and then walk around in one of China’s newer cities you will have a radical culture shock. Then have a medical problem and walk into one of their hospitals.
Fuck, just walk into a public restroom or use their mass transit and you will wonder where the fuck your tax money is going.
Their space program alone gets zero coverage in the US and has done amazing things that will guarantee them the solar system in just a few decades.
Not saying they’re some kind of perfect nation, their human rights issues, their abuse of their workers, their racism and xenophobia are still huge and glaring, but it’s going to be a lot worse in the US before long.
China cares about Palestinians as much as the US cares about Ukrainians… not much
Don’t pretend like they’re good guys. Empires don’t care about the lives of people, its just a statistic to them.
That’s kinda of what I meant; fuck China, Winnie Pooh is evil, but they’re working hrlard in their image now, and trump is making that easy
This is an objectively good thing.
When our actions align, then take it
Wow I rarely say this about Chinese government but based.
Good policy for bad (or at least not principled) reasons. It’s for money. They consider Israel “high risk” because of the war. China doesn’t give a shit about human rights. They send their own Muslims to concentration camps.
It’s also to say they have principles. It’s hard for the USA or Europe to criticize their human rights abuses while continuing to support Israel. It’s a way to highlight western hypocrisy while avoiding risk. Remember they still invest into other high risk countries. High risk can lead to high reward.
I find it easy to criticize both where warranted
Yes, and we should continue to do so. However, lets not pretend that immoral actions by America and Europe don’t undermined their position.
Also, the current tensions in the region threatens China’s supply of cheap oil from Iran.
True. It’s a state. I can’t think of a time a state did something for purely altruistic reasons.
Could have sworn I saw an article about them curing diabetes the other day:
And I also saw an American tourist use their healthcare system:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUX_RaeEQws/
Sooooooo
Historically the US funded a lot of important medical research. Do you think they did this for altruistic reasons?
Similarly, healthcare is beneficial to the state to keep workers healthy.
States do many things, good and bad, but none just out of the goodness of their hearts.
The literal hellscape on earth North Korea is right next door, they just recently got done executing citizens for watching a TV show
There’s obviously more to this
Source on that?
No sources given, just more casual propaganda. Shame @Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz was downvoted for not giving into such bullshit.
When they finished executing all those people who watched the show, they executed the people who caught them, for having seen the show too. Then they executed the judges for knowing what a TV show was. Then they executed me for posting about it. (I got better)
What?
Do you really believe North Korea executes people for watching TV?
Yup and it’s not the only country that does.
Do all the countries you believe ridiculous things about happen to be enemies of the US that you’ve never been to?
I was going to add “or met someone from”, but you could probably find a Cuban in Miami who’d say Castro executed their entire family for watching tv.
You’re a dumbass. North Korea"s treatment of human life is well documented Internationally.
So the government running concentration camps bans trading with the one commuting genocide. I see…
What are you complaining about? At least someone is doing something about genocide. Whenever anyone, including the chinese stand up for a civilized world they should be praised and supported. I welcome their kicking zionist war criminals in the face and hope for much more kicking. Somebody has to lead here and it sure as hell isnt the so called western world order. They are all busy hiding their pedophilia crimes committed in Israeli honeypot operations.
You have to be more specific.
