• DaddleDew@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    266
    ·
    edit-2
    6 days ago

    Wow. I don’t know if everyone understands how unbelievably fucked up that is. A person overboard is usually considered an all hands on deck, high priority search and rescue operation because of how hard it is to spot the person and how finding that person a few minutes earlier can make the difference between rescuing a person and recovering a corpse. She downright sacrificed a Coast Guardsmen’s life for something that could have waited. This is beyond incompetent priority management and I can guarantee that most Coast Guard members hate her guts for it now.

      • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        42
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        6 days ago

        People always go on about how the armed forces hate Trump. If that’s the case, how come they never balk at carrying out all those blatantly illegal orders?

        • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          6 days ago

          People always go on about how the armed forces hate Trump.

          They do?

          My impression has always been that some of the military hates him, but it’s a very small handful.

          • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            15
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 days ago

            My impression has always been that it’s a shitshow.

            • Military vertical culture is “fuck your opinion, do your job” or “failure to obey orders.” Refusing illegal orders is a theoretical training seminar that covers examples like sexual favors and cleaning out the bosses car.
            • Military horizontal culture is “I’m just here to do my job, eventually go to school” and “failure to report.”

            There’s not really any room to hate Trump. I mean… go ahead, hate him… They have about the same regard for that as they would have for any conservative members hating Obama. They don’t want to hear it, unless it’s just you and your bud shooting shit on a long watch. You do your job, that’s it.

            High-ranking members get disgruntled and choose to retire or whatever. That only weakens the reserve of people who aren’t just blindly following orders.

            They aren’t taught to have opinions. They’re taught to stand at attention so that someone else can breathe down their neck and talk shit unrelentingly. They’re taught to breathe the farts in deep, until they start seeing the shenanigans as tough love.

        • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          6 days ago

          I’ve been out long enough to not have a sense of the current vibe. I’m just pointing out that there’s a solution if they’re really that pissed.

          • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            6 days ago

            I’m not denying that. In saying they’re not anywhere near as pissed as people make it out to be. It seems like a lot of people in the US armed forces are on board with the fascist takeover of their country.

            • Devolution@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              6 days ago

              Seems like you don’t understand how military training is. Boot camps purpose is to beat the critical thinking and individuality out of you. Officer school is all about how to control peons.

              The system works as designed.

        • TallonMetroid@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          23
          ·
          6 days ago

          Nah, back when I was Chair Force 20 years ago we were fed a constant stream of FOXNews in the common areas. I don’t imagine that’s changed at all, so the rank and file should probably be considered to be about the same as the boomers politically. The hope was that the officer corps would resent his draft dodging stolen valor ass, but even that would have only lasted until the Pentagon got purged.

      • DaddleDew@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        5 days ago

        I really think it is incompetence though.

        She touted her killing her dog as proof that she has the grit to make tough decisions in the past. She seems to equate the ability to make tough decisions with making decisions with horrible consequences because she has no understanding of true priority management. I bet she really thought she was being a “tough decision maker” when she decided to sacrifice the chance of rescue of that poor member who fell into the ocean just so her deportation flight remained on schedule. But really, it is just an absolutely shit incompetent decision.

  • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    5 days ago

    A DHS spokesperson insisted “the C-130 never left the search” and claimed there’s no proof it was diverted away from those efforts, but two U.S. officials, a Coast Guard official and a former Coast Guard official told NBC News that the incident showed the culture clash between the agency and the only military branch Noem oversees.

    The way they just lie, like it’s the most natural thing in the world to them. Always implying that no one should question it. That’s fascism.

  • Lucky_777@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    52
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    6 days ago

    While I understand the hopelessness of trying to find a single person lost in the ocean. This is fucking stupid as hell and she should be thrown into the ocean and the search abandoned immediately after.

  • SabinStargem@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 days ago

    I think most of the Coast Guard will turn on the Trump Regime when the time comes. No military likes their own being abandoned to die, because that sets the tone for everyone in the rank and file.

    • Ferrous@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      6 days ago

      Why?

      I dont know how you could think that given the absolute lack of anything similar from any of the other branches.

      People were starting to cling on to the “the military is going to stop the Trump coup” copium all the way back at the beginning of his first term. It has yet to happen, and both he and his cronies are all the more entrenched.

      • SabinStargem@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        6 days ago

        I don’t think the military will stop the Trump Regime, at least not without several years of a 2nd American Civil War.

        As with ACW1, what we could see is lots of military people moving around to find like-minded people. So we will have something like 40% of a given military branch working for the good guys, another 35% for the Regime, and the rest being neutral, or doing their own thing.

  • JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    103
    ·
    6 days ago

    Every day the line between cartoonishly evil and cartoonishly stupid gets smaller with this administration.

    • D_C@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      6 days ago

      If you told me it’s a wax representation of a human, but done be a trainee rather than a professional I’d believe you.

      • maturelemontree@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        6 days ago

        Yeah whats up with that? I mean she looks bad. Like unhealthy bad. Im sure its something to do with her blackened and tarred soul seeping through and becoming visable, but still.

        • FoxyFerengi@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 days ago

          Too much filler, it’s settling weird on her face and lips. I’m assuming she keeps injecting more without dissolving the previous batch. Look up pictures of her from 2018 and you’ll see how much filler she’s packed into her cheeks, eye troughs, and lips.

          It also looks like her makeup is extremely dry, but the way it’s caked on over uneven skin does make me wonder if she has a condition like rosacea. I have rosacea and don’t wear makeup because it just looks worse than my bare skin lol

        • Duranie@leminal.space
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 days ago

          Ever seen Death Becomes Her?

          Injecting shit into your face and surgeries tend to leave people lumpy after a while.

  • frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    6 days ago

    Anyone working on a boat should keep in mind that this will happen to them too, and think about how their families would feel hearing news like this.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    6 days ago

    Coast guardsmen are under DHS and may currently be unpaid for their apparently-expendable work.

  • Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    5 days ago

    Why listen to orders from this dog-killing and now person-killing empty husk of what somewhat resembles a human from the outside. Fraggin’ time.

  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    6 days ago

    Can’t wait to see her in federal prison or worse. A puppy killer deserves nothing in life except pain and suffering, but then they gave her control over DHS so she could murder humans instead of puppies.