Imagine going to a buffet where everything is gone except a suspicious and particularly greasy clam chowder or an overcooked ham sandwich that’s been left out too long.
Also, you have a shellfish allergy.
And I don’t like ham :(
Then he said he was going to defeat VP trump…
And.i honestly don’t know if he meant he’d beat Kamala and be the candidate in the general or if he meant he’d beat Trump in the general?
Welp…it’s over folks. To those continually downvoting me because you can’t face facts, it’s time. As a staunch Democrat, I cannot bring myself to support that man any longer. Either find a new candidate or this will be the first presidential election I don’t vote in.
Bitch, moan, downvote all you want. I don’t care anymore.
If only Democrats had listened to leftists 4 years ago, we saw all the signs then and we were told to shut the fuck up
Biden was supposed to be a transitional president, but he has done nothing to promote anyone but himself. It was selfish and it will be his legacy - it’s sad.
Good night. Sleep tight. And pleasant dreams to you. Here’s a wish, and a prayer that all your dreams come true.
Hard agree.
I’d fucking vote for a corpse over fascism. It’s sad that you feel otherwise.
Some of us live in states where our votes conveniently don’t matter. I don’t give a single fuck about performative voting. I care about winning, and Joe Biden is not going to win.
The popular vote is an important legitimizing factor in elections. If your logic is that the end result is preordained, maybe you shouldn’t be voting in any election where the difference between victory, tie, and defeat > your vote.
The popular vote is an important legitimizing factor in elections.
Yeah, that sounds good, but ultimately it is fucking meaningless. I’m all for the popular vote compact, but that isn’t reality right now.
If your logic is that the end result is preordained
It isn’t preordained. I am working off the available evidence, and every single piece of available evidence is that he is going to fucking lose. Joe Biden staying in this race is dooming this country, and when he loses I hope he is punished for his hubris.
Yeah, that sounds good, but ultimately it is fucking meaningless.
Okay, so you don’t understand how governments act and sustain themselves. Cool.
I absolutely understand. You are in your feelings. I am living in reality. The electoral college is all that matters. That is what determines our elections, and is what will determine if we are able to sustain our strained democracy. When Biden loses the election and wins the popular vote you can carry all the water you want, but Trump will still be president.
I absolutely understand. You are in your feelings. I am living in reality.
I guess you missed the whole autocoup issue on Jan 6? Minor, I know, to people with only a passing interest in politics, but kind of integral. Clearly you don’t understand the effect the percieved legitimacy of a government has on its functioning and continuation.
maybe you shouldn’t be voting in any election where the difference between victory, tie, and defeat > your vote.
PugJesus, encouraging people not to vote.
Sorry that I tried to demonstrate the ridiculousness of that logic by demonstrating its necessary defeatist conclusions.
Sure. That’s what you were doing.
You were doing what you incessantly accuse anyone who has been critical of Biden’s support for genocide of doing. You were encouraging people to stay home in the face of fascism.
Sure. That’s what you were doing.
Yes, I thought the absurdity of not voting unless you were the deciding vote was obvious enough, but clearly it went over your head. I’ll be less subtle next time, though I imagine I’ll need bright highlighter colors to get any less subtle.
This is the internet. The odds of that guy actually being a staunch dem are very slim.
Yeah, elsewhere he gave “It’s a very complex issue 🥺” plea, unprompted, on whether Trump et co are fascist.
I believe you misread that or you’re a fucking liar. Either way, that’s not what I said.
He is a fucking liar, and intentionally wants to twist up the obvious context to fit his chosen narrative. In other words, a propagandist and a try-hard.
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I was talking about PugJesus, not you…
He went super fascist on me…about fascism. Fucking funny really.
He went super fascist on me…about fascism. Fucking funny really.
Fascism is when you ask someone to explain something they said, and the more you ask, the more fascist it is, I guess.
Added bonus, you get a fascist corpse
Yes, yes I fucking do. And I don’t feel bad about it anymore. You should.
And I don’t feel bad about it
Cool, great, nice to know you don’t give a fuck about your fellow Americans.
You should.
I should feel bad for… voting against fascism?
You should be ashamed to vote for that. To force that abhorrent excuse of a barely conscious individual onto the world stage to represent this incredible country.
His campaign is over. His money is going to dry up and we’re going to be stuck with a fascist because you can’t nut up and make a difficult decision. Fuck!
You should be ashamed to vote for that. To force that abhorrent excuse of a barely conscious individual onto the world stage to represent this incredible country.
Not happy about it, but I’d take a pet rock over fascism. Not really sure why you’re advocating otherwise.
His campaign is over. His money is going to dry up and we’re going to be stuck with a fascist
It’s funny that you seem to forget that when the issue of voting against fascism comes up.
because you can’t nut up and make a difficult decision. Fuck!
Wait, I’m the one not nutting up and making a difficult decision? Is that difficult decision ‘not voting and letting a fascist win’? Because that’s the only thing I’ve opposed here.
You don’t seem to be comprehending that the campaign is over. People are not going to vote for him. You can’t make them.
And distilling the complexities of American leadership and our standing in the world into fascism vs. dementia is just naïve and simpleminded.
There is time, but we need to move quickly and decisively. There is no time for nostalgia.
And distilling the complexities of American leadership and our standing in the world into fascism vs. dementia is just naïve and simpleminded.
Okay, tell me about the ‘complexities’ of Trump as the other viable candidate, I’m interested in hearing this.
You’re never going to break through the Blue MAGA brain rot. They are too far in denial. The grip of the sunk cost fallacy is too strong.
Sadly, you’re probably right. I’m just hoping there are enough people in positions of power to get the wheels moving on a replacement.
These people will just have to come along for the ride.
Again…Hard Agree.
Blue MAGA
Jesus Christ.
You may not like it, but you are embodying it. Deal with it.
And this particular homie has every dnc talking point memorized. Dont get caught up in a slap fight with that one cuz no one out-types ol’ pugjesus lol. must type 120wpm, shits crazy
Good point. You caught me slipping. That’s my bad.
lol lol no
I hope for you that you’re a white man then
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I think that moment where he paused he pooped his pants
Straight up witnessing elder abuse. My grandfather was getting so old that he was making basic mistakes while driving. We took the keys away because he could hurt someone.
The fact that they’re allowing this man to humiliate himself and this country over and over again speaks to the cruelty of the people who are still covering for this.
Literally sickening. I’ve had this happen to family members and neighbors. It’s always the easist to abuse those who can’t even see they are being played.
It Depends.
Good morning Sunday morning
Lol, and now he’s answering the wrong question. Hahahaha
The way media works, any good he might have gotten out of the speech or question and answer session is going to be completely overshadowed by this flub.
I completely got what he meant. But it’s another bad moment.
Overall, the whole impression I got was grandpa Joe giving storytime. I just don’t think that’s what we need at this time.
And here come the sound bites.
This is the problem. I don’t want to excuse Biden, but even if 95% of the speech is fine, the 5% is all 99% of readers will ever see.
Apparently we didn’t watch the same speech cuz not even 5% of it was fine
You are right lol.
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Still, they are hyper focusing one flub instead of the meat of the speech.
He needed a home run to have any chance of unfucking this. He’s hitting a single. He’s a detriment to the ticket from here on out, I think.
It’s already over. If he stays on the top of the ticket Republicans will control all three branches of government, and it won’t be close.
That’s not a single. He absolutely struck out.
I have defended this man. If he’s still the nominee in November I’ll still vote for him. But god dammit this is fucking terrible.
I do not have hope for him being replaced but I sure think he should be. Whoever is telling him that he should keep running is guilty of elder abuse.
I do not have hope for him being replaced
Congresscritters, even just a few, coming out for him to step down is massive. It might happen.
The man basically said not even an act of God would convince him to drop out lmao.
…said not even an act of God would convince him to…
Good. They need that separation of church and state.
If it happens, it’s a guaranteed loss.
Enough DNC hand-wringing, let the stammerer and ponderer safeguard democracy and then you can Bernie him.
While I disagree, I both respect and envy your optimism. I’m feeling defeatist today. Maybe tomorrow I’ll share your view but today I’m going to drink and brood.
If it’s any consolation, Congresscritters coming out against the presumptive nominee WHO IS ALSO THE INCUMBENT sort of thing is fucking unheard of. That this is happening in public is very much indicative of heavy fucking gears moving behind the curtains. Whether that will be enough remains to be seen.
I say make Bernie the VP, let Biden win and then he can resign and let us get a President who can change some things.
I love Bernie, but putting someone who is OLDER than Biden on the ticket is not a winning scenario. We had our chance in 2020.
If Biden won and then immediately resigned the public would lose all trust in the DNC for decades. People do not like bait and switch.
It’s way too close to the election now to switch candidates and have any hope of winning. Most people don’t follow the news as closely as us. It takes at least a year of pushing a new candidate into the limelight to make them viable in an election.
You are a literal disgrace to this country especially when Chase Oliver is here to fight thems horrible candidates. You will vote for someone you know is a failure because reasons and you aren’t brainwashed? Vote Chase Oliver, more than enough of us hate Trump and Biden and he stands for real things, check him out before you downvote me https://www.votechaseoliver.com/
Spoiler candidate dude, sorry. I really despise Biden and the two party system, but there’s zero choice here, it’s Biden or fascism.
The right won’t have a spoiler candidate siphoning votes in November, every state RNC is going to make damn sure of that.
So you give power to an unfair system? But its their issue? Or are you unable to do your own thing or say fuck the system? Everyone I know says Fuck Trump and Fuck Biden, literally only voting against someone, and I have to hear this dismissive shit that someone who gives a fuck shouldn’t get airtime because? You are part of the problem and contributing to decline.
Best chance to change the system is to get Biden in, then pressure a democrat-controlled govt to adopt change. Federalize first past the post, maximum age limits, limit lobbying. None of this has a chance of ever happening at all if the left cote is split and trump wins. If Biden wins, there’s at least a chance, however small.
So our best chance at change is asking for more of the same? Are you insane?
Looked, downvoted.
And so who you plan to vote for? the court appointed rapist or genocide joe clearly on decline?
I plan on voting for a primary candidate that is not Donald Trump. Come election day, I think it’s likely it will be Dark Brandon so will probably vote for him. You voting for any 3rd party candidate is almost as worthless as not voting in out current voting system.
I think you also fail to see that trump is a felon, would have probably been way more genocidal, was a failure to his country during covid, again a failure to his country when he led an insurrection, is batshit crazy in that he thought he should have won the last election. Do I need to go on.
I have to imagine that whomever is promoting a third party candidate either doesn’t understand how US general elections work, or is actually trying to siphon votes from Biden to benefit Trump. It’s tantamount to convincing someone not to vote at all.
Because of the first past the post voting, you need to vote against the candidate you definitely don’t want. Any vote not for the Democrat is effectively a vote for Trump.
This isn’t like voting for Kang or Kodos, Trump is a horrible person, was and would be a terrible president, and needs to be put in jail. Giving him the presidential office protects him from accountability which is probably the only reason he’s running other than his ego.
Okay you say that, but this is literally the two worst candidates possible, if there was a yime we could win itd be now. Do you know any Trump or Biden supporters? Cause I don’t as someone in NY, literally people falling over themselves over who they not gonna vote, literally a time for Chase Oliver to win, but you know blue no matter who and watch Biden die in these polls.
My state is going to go to Biden. A Republican hasn’t won my state in over 40 years. With a forgone conclusion, and a winner take all approach to electoral votes, my vote essentially doesn’t matter unless I vote for a third party. If I can help them get 20% of the popular vote, theyll be in a much better position in 2028 and maybe we’ll see some real change finally.
Also lmao at thinking a libertarian will siphon votes from the left. Also fuck you for telling me how to vote.
Ok let’s think of the best case scenario of your choice affecting the election of your state meaningfully. Your third party candidate turns out to actually win your state woooooo!!! But wait that means that unless other states have turnout for that candidate you’re state basically just wasted it’s vote.
The best case scenario is that my candidate gets 20% of the popular vote and their party gets an automatic spot in the debates in 2028. I don’t expect them to win any state outright in 2024, and if they did CT doesn’t have enough electoral votes to affect the election in a meaningful way anyway
If this copypasta has better English and was on-topic, it’d get better reception. I get you have a quota, but be less obvious.
Why you, on a Canadian Instance at that, think I am not an American expressing my honest views? What makes you think someone with a different view is automatically a shill? What is obvious about me? Please explain cause it makes no sense.
Well put.
Eh, if you actually watch the video and don’t take it out of context you realize he meant Harris, bcz he later refers to how they can beat trump. Sometimes you say the wrong thing, I’ve done it before and I’m barely into my 30s, and nobody accuses me of being senile.
To be clear, he should have stepped down a long time ago, and I’m not really a fan of Biden. But he’s been making mistakes in speeches like this his entire career. It wasn’t until he became president that everyone started losing their mind over it.
It wasn’t until he became president that everyone started losing their mind over it.
Do you not agree a position as powerful as President should be under more scrutiny?
I don’t think we should crucify him for saying the wrong thing occasionally like every human ever does.
He has plenty of shit policies to talk about. But the only thing that seems to get people riled up lately is the way he speaks.
omg, this guy has to be finished. He cant even hold it together this long. wow
Vote for G.R.A.M.P.S.
He also referred to Zelenskyy as “President Putin”
Jesus fucking christ!
