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    District Judge Aileen Cannon said in a 93-page order that she has granted Trump’s bid to dismiss the indictment based on the unlawful funding and appointment of special counsel Jack Smith, who brought the charges against the former president.

    So this should be easy for appeals court to overturn right?

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      The “liberal media” is not “tripping over themselves to talk about this like it’s some complicated issue”.

      The Washington Post called bullshit:

      U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon’s ruling is a remarkable win for Trump, whose lawyers have thrown longshot argument after longshot argument to dismiss the case. Other courts have rejected similar arguments to the one that he made in Florida about the legality of Smith’s appointment.

      Cannon’s decision comes as Trump is preparing to be formally nominated as the Republican presidential nominee in this year’s election, with the Republican National Convention beginning in Milwaukee on Monday.

      The legal theory that Smith was illegally appointed and funded has generally been considered far-fetched. Trump’s legal team didn’t adopt the argument in court until conservative legal groups pushed it.

      This is as far as they can go in saying that “this decision is unhinged” while still maintaining their aura of objectivity. They’re not going to do it explicitly in the main article, that will come in the opinion pieces that will be released in a few hours, surely

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          Without intent to offend, perhaps neutral reporting isn’t for you. They reported all the facts and leave you to come up with your own opinion, which is a mark of high-quality journalism.

          They are a news agency. They are not here to tell you what to think of the news. You want your news to tell you what to think. I want my news to tell me what happened and give me the information necessary to form my own opinion.

          If they said explicitly or implied that she did this because of her ideology, even if that is likely true, that would not be unbiased.

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              On the one side, this man is accused of murdering 30 people. On the other side, he’s been called a lover of puppies. Let’s meet in the middle and say he’s a bad driver.

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            This is an important detail often missed when discussing journalism, objectivity, bias, and, unfortunately, integrity. It’s a necessary piece of fabric that has been fraying for years. As another lemmy post some month ago put it, with the loss of the Cronkite era folks lost faith in the fourth estate. The tragedy is that the stratification of news by party and by medium is that anything right of CNN, most of the fringe blogosphere, and nearly all of the AM stations is that they are presenting opinionated hot takes as journalistic facts. Moreover, this tends to galvanize an already consitent voter base. It seems like without an emotional appeal to resisting consrvative ideologues the rhetoric and relative baseline just keep slipping.

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        “Maintaining an aura of objectivity” is itself blatant pro-fascist bias!

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    Ironically this would also invalidate any of the cases against Hunter Biden if the supreme court agrees with her.

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        Cannon’s ruling is going to be appealed. If it gets appealed all the way to the supreme court, again (and Clarence Thomas has specifically asked for this in one of his prior rulings), and the supreme court holds with them, then any charges brought by a special counsel in any case are gone. Her ruling invalidates special counsels in general. The office that is pressing charges against Hunter Biden will no longer exist.

        The scary part about this is it means that if Trump were to win he would have every excuse and cover from the judiciary to hand pick his own justice department attorney hires to go after people with no semblance of independence. After all, special counsels aren’t even allowed to be used anymore. So you’re of course right, it does fit into a larger fascist plant, and I certainly don’t mean to imply that it doesn’t or this isn’t all for Trump’s benefit.

        I just wanted to point out that the current move would also be able to get Hunter Biden off the hook on the off chance that it gets anyone blindly supporting Trump immunity to stop and think for a second that maybe this isn’t actually a good thing (since a lot of them seem to have some pretty extreme beliefs about Hunter Biden going to jail).

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            Cannon’s ruling is going to be appealed. If it gets appealed all the way to the supreme court, again (and Clarence Thomas has specifically asked for this in one of his prior rulings), and the supreme court holds with them, then any charges brought by a special counsel in any case are gone.

            Have you been paying attention? For the last two and a half years, we’ve seen the entire court system bend over backwards to carve out special exemptions that only apply to Trump, or make Trump exempt from certain laws because reasons. Trump has received special accomodations for no reason other than the fact that he’s Donald Trump. They could very easily declare that the Supreme Court will determine which special counsels are valid and which ones aren’t on a case-by-case basis. And in this case, the special counsel is invalid because Trump couldn’t have been investigated for official acts in the first place, per their previous ruling. And since this presidential immunity doesn’t also cover the president’s children, the special counsel in that case is valid and therefore Hunter’s conviction stands.

            If you objectively follow the logic of their previous rulings, this is pretty much where that road leads to. Special counsels investigating Trump are invalid because Trump is covered by Presidential immunity. Special counsels against Hunter biden are valid because that immunity doesn’t cover a president’s son (until Eric, Don, Ivanka, or Jared need it to). Special counsels currently investigating Biden are valid because it’s not the court’s place to interfere in ongoing investigations, and removing the special counsels would be too disruptive. Or something. It makes sense as long as you don’t think about it too hard. Or at all. Or if you’re a brazenly corrupt Supreme Court judge.

            Precedent doesn’t matter any more. The rules now apply when the Supreme Court says they do. And if they say that the rule only applies to Trump because fuck you that’s why, they’re going to say that the rule only applies to Trump because fuck you that’s why.

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    We really live in the worst timeline.

    I’m sure that in all the other parallel universes where Trump exists, he’s a used car salesman.

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      Taking shots at him won’t fix anything. He’s just a demagogue figure head for the movement created by billionaires and their foundations. If people want to fix America, we need billionaires cowering in fear. They are so bold in their corruptions because they get away with it.

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        Also that but the shots would help in the short term so we have a long term

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    The system of the USA only works, if the president is a good person, caring for the good of the nation and all of its citizens.

    Trump and his cronies are bad people though, and the house of cards that is the constitution and the separation of powers falls apart.

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      Most governments around the world and their politicians regularly get away with even war crimes. This isn’t anything new.

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      This is less a “free pass” so much as all things going to plan.

      Cannon is a trump appointed croney who has been delaying the trial and doing everything in her power to protect trump. And now the supreme court gave them an out and she instantly took it.

      This is literally what republicans have been working toward for decades. Immunity by corrupting the government at every level.

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        Doesn’t it kind of feel as if this has reached some sort of end game here? Previously, it has always felt like - yeah, they play dirty, but they keep their bullshit contained to reasonable levels. But recently, it’s just been one absolute blatantly democracy-shattering decision one after another.

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          Because we played right into their hand, the have been telegraphing this for years. All of their bullshit has been slowly ramping up for years, slowly getting more unreasonable but compared to everything else they’ve done it’s really not that much worse. Now that they were able to completely set the field they can move on the they’re end game. And I’m not sure we can stop them now.

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            If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked- if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in '43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non- Jewish shops in '33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C?

            • They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 -by Milton Mayer
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          Yes, because they are a) at the tipping point where they control enough institutions so the pieces fall together now, and b) someone came along who’s actually used all those pieces and everyone could see how absolutely unprepared and completely helpless the system and the political opponent was. They realized they don’t need to tiptoe around anymore.

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          There’s been a concerted effort to infiltrate and influence politics by conservative Christians for years. I think events like the Brook Brothers riot emboldened dropping the thin veil of the Democratic process as they saw you can literally steal an election and no one will do anything about it. The real test of what the people will tolerate is only beginning, I fear.

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      Honestly for a long time I was really hopeful that the fact that he was doing it out in the open and everyone could see that he was abusing the hell out of every little loophole he could find, and creating some new ones, would mean that we’d start closing those loopholes when he was out of office and we might even see an era of reform.
      He’s been out of office for 4 years and all the courts have managed to do is LEGALIZE HIS MISCONDUCT! I feel like I’m finally starting to except our collective fate and now there’s nothing left to do but watch it burn down around us.

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        Yeah, thought the same.

        And it’s not only that, a few things occurred or are in the midst of happening ( at the worldwide level ), that i was sure wouldn’t be possible, because no one would do that shit and/or people would not let it happen.

        But, boy was i wrong…

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    The autocratic dictatorship is imminent and I don’t have a current passport. Not sure what the future holds.

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      If push comes to shove your passport is only the first step. You would need to actually find a country to take you, and countries don’t hand out citizenship like candy unless you’re rich. Without a second citizenship, you would be very restricted in where you can work.

      Your best bet is if your parents or grandparents came from abroad, some countries have blanket policies to have 1st or 2nd generations come back to their ancestral homeland. It very much varies by country, you would have to do your own research. It might be worth doing as a last resort.

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        I may look into the other genealogical direction. My daughter has skills that are globally in demand and she’s probably more upset about America than I ever could be. Maybe there’s a bring your parent along program out there somewhere.

        I’m fifteen years out from viable retirement. If I can hold on that long, there are several places I could go on my own accord.

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          A vast majority of Democrat representatives live out their lives without getting killed by MAGA crazies. I think most of them though are willing to take that risk for what they believe in. Do you believe in something greater than yourself that would prompt you to take that risk?

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          Arm up, particularly a pistol, apply for CCW. The right will continue their stochastic violence and seemingly random mass shootings, targeting poc and lgbtq. Go vote for gun control absolutely, but your votes not gonna save you when someone storms a mall and starts spraying because they’re part of a violent cult. I promise you the right already has their guns, they’ve been passing them down to their kids too. The most strict gun control even if enacted tomorrow won’t dis-arm these would be shooters. You’ll have to wait for those effects to happen over a longer period of time.

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    And he slides out of another one… Fucker is so slippery that even bullets don’t stick.

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      This gave Jack Smith the ability to take this and appeal it, which he previously could not do because she refused to publish actual orders ever since Smith appealed a previous bad decision by her and won.

      There is simply no way Smith loses this appeal, it will end up in the Supreme Court and that is where the final nail will fall for this case.

      Furthermore, she had a FUCK TON of things to make a decision on that were key to the case, thus when she is removed those decisions can still be made instead of the next judge inheriting her bullshit. There is still hope, which is pathetic that we need any but it is what it is.

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        And the odds of any of that happening is vanishingly small if Trump wins. Even if he doesn’t, I think he won’t see any serious consequences from this. In court, anyway.