#HarriButt2024!
I’m sold.
Alright I wasn’t in before but… I mean what a strong name to platform on.
Can any of you buttigeg naysayers elaborate?
Just guessing from the replies, (I’m personally not that critical of Pete)
He used to be more left wing, had a deep appreciation for Bernie Sanders growing up, then he had a more right-ward turn. He worked as a consultant for a very unpopular and influential company (Mckinsey) for a few years, then he joined the Navy and was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Lastly the shenanigans around him very narrowly beating Bernie in the Iowa primary of 2020 probably all contribute to the negative sentiment.
None of these really make him worse than even more corporate Dems like Pritzker or Shapiro, so I’m guessing the antipathy is almost entirely because of 2020.
I vote for policies not people. I don’t care if the candidate is a green-skinned genetically-enhanced three-year-old clone of a dead woman from Ohio, with a biotech computer in her brain. As long as she supports equal rights for all humans, I’m on board.
Knights of Symphonia is an excellent manga.
I don’t know what that is. I was referencing “Old Man’s War” by John Scalzi. An excellent book series.
I think we could be, but not that one
What’s wrong with Buttigieg?
He’s far more milquetoast than Harvey Milk if you catch my drift
Maybe reversing that question would be a good starting point–what’s good about Buttigieg?
We absolutely are, but not as the VP to a non-white woman. The US has a long way to go.
I’d rather that gay person be someone else. I despise Buttigieg on a personal level and hope he never gets VP let alone POTUS.
Why?
Because I’m still angry about how he treated Bernie.
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Bernie Sanders. The old guy who jumpstarted the entire leftist movement in America.
I think they have a better chance with Pete for president than Kamala honestly as fucked as that is.
Too much steam behind Kamala to swap them out now. Best plan is to pick a VP that the right has no line of attack for, like Kelly.
Mitt Romney
The right has plenty of ammo for Romney. He lost a presidential election (the irony of voting for one guy who lost a presidential election over another guy who lost a presidential election would be 100% lost on them).
But he could capture a lot of Republicans who hate trump and also still retain democrat voters. It would drum up a lot of press and could be viewed as something new unified front against the Republicans who have turned into a party devoted to a single guy
I’d rather not have to worry about the possibility of MR becoming president, should KH die or something (I don’t think she will, but there’s a non-zero chance anyone could die).
MK would probably make some popular choices but try to not rock the boat much. That would be more tolerable than President Romney.
Such a disingenuous title. He never said voters were ready for a gay VP, his quotes were in response to a question if he thought voters were ready for a black woman. But I guess nobody reads the article and just throws in their 2 cents on what they think of Pete as a VP.
his quotes were in response to a question if he thought voters were ready for a black woman
This somehow makes the article even worse.
Sharice Davids?
That would be a fun ticket.
As someone who was unfortunate enough to have grown up in Indiana, I’d rather Buttigeg stay there and keep trying to drag that state into the 20th* century.
*Not a typo, that state is just that far behind.
He’s not there though. He’s in DC as Secretary of Transportation.
Well then ask that bastard why my car broke down.
Doing a fuckall job of it, too. To hell with Pete, why settle for this guy for VP? Why is everyone so hung up on him?
In think it’s because he’s an excellent communicator and stays that way even going on Fox News and such. Like even if we don’t trust him deep down, the skills he has are conductive to winning the election which is basically all that matters.
I don’t know if that makes him the most winning choice, because bigots, but we’ll see what happens.
He may be an ok communicator but hes a bit of a dumbass. The guy who openly said he wanted to do a gun ban in fucken Texas probably isnt the wisest person on an electoral level.
Sadly, not the US.
Surprisingly, he’s not already thanking Kamala for the nomination.
Has his favorability with Black voters improved since 2020?
Out of the loop, what has he done to alienate the black community?
Disparate cannabis enforcement while he was mayor of South Bend. Pretty much tanked his 2020 run.
Why was the mayor involved with how laws got enforced??
I’m not saying it was fair. I’m saying that it is.
Yeah I’m not questioning whether it happened I was just questioning what circumstances led to that
Fuck if I know.
Maybe, but hopefully we’d get someone better than Pete.
They really are not. A gay candidate will guarantee a loss through the midwest and south. Generally all the religious votes.
You think PizzaGate was bad? Wait until you have a gay candidate.
Honestly, I thought the same thing about Obama. I didn’t think there was any way a black guy who’d been living in Chicago would win. But he did! You never know!
Though I agree that the risk would be crazy high to run a black/Indian female president with a gay vice president. Maybe not this psycho election.
Obama is literally the most professional and well spoken president since Clinton or JFK, possibly FDR. Like people he knew when he was younger were impressed with his ability.
As a Massachusan I applaud your description of JFK as being well spoken. Too often does our nonrhotic profanity laiden dialect end up being maligned. It’s a wicked fucking tragedy.
Never underestimate how much people really fucking hate Trump
Never overestimate either.
People had a rare situation where they could compare trump and Biden presidency side by side and still were saying that they are not sure who they will vote for.
That has nothing to do with how many people hate Trump. That had to do with how many people didn’t like Biden.
In case you hadn’t heard, Biden isn’t running for president anymore.
The Biden hate was artificially manufactured. Similar techniques will be used against anyone else.
See? Biden wasn’t uniquely poor as a candidate! Just look at all the chaos and infighting within the Democratic Party now that he dropped out! Just look at all the successful attacks Republicans have made against Harris.
Oh, right. The party fell in line behind a viable candidate, and Republicans are flailing and nothing is sticking.
Sure dude, but no offense, I’m hoping for the war veteran, swing state astronaut. Strategically he looks like the best choice IMO.
I liked him too until I found out it would prompt a special election that Democrats could likely lose
Can you elaborate?
He’s a sitting senator of a red leaning state who won because of who he is. He has to vacate to run for VP, which is bad for keeping that seat. Losing the senate easily hamstrings any efforts a President Harris would bring, especially with GOP being the way they are.
Granted, that can be a problem for all swing state guys. Just isn’t as terrible for governors (although that can screw with other things, like voting rights in a given state).
Senator Kelly’s replacement would be required by Arizona law to be a Democrat appointed by the Governor (also currently a Democrat). The special election to replace the replacement wouldn’t be until 2026. If he’s the right one for the job, it might be worth potentially taking a hit 2 years into a Harris administration.
That’s a good point. I didn’t know it wasn’t until 2026. The main point is to sure up Arizona, which is understandable. The guy from Pennsylvania might be good for that reason, too, but that’s a little less iffy as it’s a little more blue, especially since it sounds like Philly is loving the Harris hype.
How is he both the Secretary of Transportation and a Senator simultaneously?
It’s in reference to Kelly, as per earlier comments.
He’s not? They’re talking about Mark Kelly.
He’s pretty moderate though. I’m not sure he’s really the best choice nationally - Harris won’t need help bringing the middle over, she needs to convince progressives to vote.
No, actual progressives will vote against fascism, no question. Don’t let the trolls fool you. It’s the people in red areas with only modest critical thinking skills that need to be won over. Hammer home the fact that Kelly isn’t an absolute nutter. Paint that as the big difference between him and the republican ticket. And have the fact that he was in the military proudly displayed, and the fact that he was an astronaut can bring up the rear of their message.
People who love astronauts are already into science. It’s the classic conservatives/moderates that need to be won over.
The progressives need motivation more than anything, and now they have it with Harris. It’s the wishy-washy groups - centrists, right of center, and undecided (how can you be undecided right now wtf?!) - that need coaxing.
That resume is hard to top… isn’t it? I keep reading other candidates but always find myself going “that’s cool and all… but an astronaut?”
They aren’t. Play it safe please. Moderate white male. Trump needs to be crushed.
