Oh no!
Anyway…
A week that occurred during the period where the GOP should have been experiencing their post-convention bump. The Democrats haven’t had their convention yet, so that should give them another few points.
Fuck the republican traitor filth.
No, no, don’t fuck any of them.
What about grandma’s dolphin print couch?
JD? Is that you?
Polls don’t mean anything if people don’t go out and vote, and tbh I don’t think Harris is leading in battle ground states enough to really say there might be a “blue wave”.
Dems and allies may be in for a shock if they think Harris is a confirmed winner, from what I can tell it’s close and may remain close. Literally every vote may count https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/07/25/trump-harris-swing-state-polls-harris-trails-trump-in-most-key-battlegrounds-but-outperforms-biden/
As a Non-American, the fact its a close race a fucking bonkers. You guys need to get your shit together.
So many things working against normal Americans to rig things in favor of the crazies.
Evangelicals sometimes believe that god picks Republican presidents and Satan will let Democrats win. There are others that believe in Dominionist Christianity feeling that those blessed by godjesus will be wealthy and given a position of power as gods will. We have some sad, crazy mf’ers in this country along with some really dumb, gullible people.
What the fuck? You think we want it this close?
I mean yes? Obviously not you but around half the people that vote somehow prefer Trump and Project 2025. And the people that don’t vote don’t care enough about it to get out of their homes and vote to keep democracy.
So yes, about 2/3 of your country seem to be ok with that scenario. Though I believe that you and many people like you don’t.
They’re a goddamn cult, man. We don’t even view them as American, just to be clear. They’re terrorists that want fascism. The level of hatred we have for trump is bad enough that we are praising the attempted assassination.
It is important to note that we don’t hate trump because he’s a Republican we hate him because of the horrible illegal immoral things he’s done to our country.
This is not about disagreements. Trump is a threat to America. That is not rhetoric. There is proof.
Yeah, you’re right. I probably should’ve specified that for the outsiders.
If the election were by popular vote, as it should be, this wouldn’t be an issue at all and Trump would have lost the first time. Our shitty system gives the hateful assholes far more representation than they should have.
You’re right that he would’ve lost the first time, but it still would’ve been way closer to winning than is healthy. In a sane world, 20% of the popular vote for a racist, sexist, rapist, conman thief would’ve been concerning.
Even the popular vote gets fucked up thanks to the electoral college though. Blue voters in red states have little incentive to show up to the polls because of the EC.
Without it those voters would have more turn out.
I’m sure that’s true
So true. The radical extremist qons and/or people that live in less important areas have far more influence than they should have. If anything, people that live in places with more people should have more influence, not less.
It’s so hard, I live in a non-swing state that is very heavily republican. I have conversations with these people daily. They all want the same things as me, have families, great values, and are genuinely great people. But as soon as politics comes up they shut down. It’s only republican or nothing else. I don’t know if what a candidate in states like mine believe matters anymore. It’s just what they have always voted and always will vote. Politics just lives almost in a different universe for these people. It’s so far removed sometimes it feels like a fantasy that doesn’t really change your daily life. There is just no way to have a productive conversation anymore. Terrible and makes me sad because I think if they really understood, they would switch their vote because they often are hurting themselves.
There is no shame anymore. Or maybe there is too much shame, and people repress thinking about it because it’s too painful.
We live in a democracy. We have a representative from of government. These elected officials represent us, they reflect our values. Yes, even if we did not vote for them. Your neighbors are not aliens or NPCs. They are your community.
I cannot contenence choosing to not vote and pretending you are not a part of it all. Long ago I came to terms that many of my neighbors wish I did not exist. I’m trans, and they wish I would stay inside a closet, a basement, or a grave. I take comfort that many others recognize my humanity and celebrate my achievements.
Our government reflects our values. If you don’t like that, then work to change it. Tea partiers did, and they shifted an entire party towards racism and authoritarianism. Maga fans a Qultists worked to make the country reflect their values and now Vannce has a chance to turn the white house into the Handmaid’s Tale.
If that happens then it’s our fault. I can’t pretend that people are not my neighbors just because they think I’m a groomer or a predator no matter how wrong they are. Neither can anyone else pretend that the electorate is not voting for dictatorship.
Hopefully I didn’t come across as advocating for not voting. I was just expressing my disappointment in how good people are unwilling to have hard conversations where opinions flow and change. 100% we need to vote and be the change we want to see. I just fear the changes will be slower than we want. The first step is keep tyrants away from the office then move forward.
As a Non-American, the fact its a close race a fucking bonkers.
As an American the fact that it’s a close race is fucking bonkers. I thought it was bonkers even when the alternative was Biden.
As another Non-American I support this statement.
A third of americans actively avoid politics because its “too political” (too toxic)
I fully acknowledge I’m being optimistic about the blue wave, but I also believe and hope that the momentum is just starting to build and will reflect down ballot.
And yes, I will be voting and be sure to get everyone I know to vote as well.
Pretty sure after 2016 nobody is assuming anything. Especially not when Harris is still behind Trump by 2 points. It would be insane to say “we’re behind 2 points but that’s within the margin of error, so good enough!”
Momentum is everything in politics.
Listening generates enthusiasm.
Also, I love how when Trump’s lead over Biden was broadening, the narrative here was “Biden isn’t losing! The polls are wrong!” Now that Harris’ numbers are rising, it’s “Harris can’t win! The polls are wrong!”
I will vote against donald trump.
I woke up early this morning, so I’m a bit irritated as a baseline, but how the fuck is that even a close race?
It’s a rhetorical question, but damn is it mind blowing how dumb people can be.
The US is fucked up and is influencing us here, and I am fucking pissed.
It’s worth keeping in mind that:
A) The only poll that matters is the one on Nov. 5th
and
B) Before that, the only people that you can poll are people who are fired up enough about their candidate to agree to participate.
A resigned, grudging, or “meh” vote for Biden would count just as much as a red hat wearing, sign displaying, rally attending Trump vote…but only one of those two cares enough about polling to participate in one before election day.
With Harris, I’m not so sure she will get that many more votes than Biden would have…but more of those voters are of the more motivated kind who will voluntarily participate in these polls.
It shouldn’t even be a close race in the poll between Biden and Trump, much less between Harris and Trump.
I was watching Luke Beasley interviewing MAGA people at rallies, and the mental gymnastics is unbelievable. Like even if he can cherry pick who is shown on camera, people have the gall the deny the reality.
I’m extra mad that MAGA thinking is slowly making its way in Canada and our dumb people gobble that shit up.
It might just be my local area but democrats here dont answer random polls. They are treated as door to door salesman or phone scams, completely ignored.
They sometimes use ridiculous data thats completely wrong too. Ive had them text or leave a voicemail referring to me as: my wife, my mother in law, my father, my mother, as well as the past three families that lived at my address.
I just dont know what type of poll I would actually take, trust isnt given to strangers in these parts generally.
(An old sign a friend of mine had)
No Soliciting
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We are too poor to buy anything.
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Yes, we know who we are voting for.
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Yes, we have found jesus.
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Unless you are selling Thin Mints, please go away.
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I’m not American, so, to me, Kamala is the clear choice over a convicted felon. Americans I know are telling me she’s “done nothing” and is “a waste of space”. Why are people saying this?
Projection.
this was hillary clinton’s criticism of Bernie Sanders, also. I think republicans don’t realize they’re operating out of the Hillary Clinton Campaign this time. Republicans might as well say “Its His Turn”
Friend, I’m sorry to tell this, but the American you know might be the bad ones.
Why are people saying this?
Probably to cover for racism and/or sexism.
The impression I keep getting is that these people do not feel like she’d be a good president, but I don’t know why anyone thinks that. One person did tell me Trump “literally gave me money” when he was in power, so I don’t know what to think lol
Well, uh, she cackles or something. Translation: she laughs. OMG, just like Hillary did!
This seems to be the extent of their argument. Meanwhile, because Kamala laughs and doesn’t have a penis, that kind of argument stands, but the tone police will rush in to tell everyone in a Very Serious Way that talking about JD’s couch fuckin’ is not something anyone Very Serious should ever do, LOL. Um, why? If Kamala’s supposed “cackle” is a supposed issue, why isn’t JD’s alleged couch fuckin’?
You know what? When my friends send me endless memes in the chat, I too cackle like Kamala. It’s nice to have a presidential candidate with so much joy in her heart that she cannot help but share it.
Unlike trump, who I don’t think I’ve ever seen laugh, chuckle, chortle, or anything else that would remotely telegraph joy other than a froggy grin when he’s leering at his daughter.
If you want to have a fun* time, press the matter on why they feel that way.
- “Fun” here meaning potentially rife with conflict.
Trump didn’t. He just signed a bill introduced by others.
Democratic politicians pushed for and voted for giving all citizens a payout when the pandemic forced everybody to isolate, which happened when Trump was president.
Ah, I think I remember people being very excited about how they were going to spend the money they received!
And was delayed by him insisting that his name was on it, iirc.
Because you’re talking to either tankies or conservatives, both of which have a vested interest in sowing division within the populace
Good for Kamala.
Good for us.
If you like blue fascists then yeah. Otherwise no
Wtf does that even mean lol
Kamala Harris is team blue fascist while Trump is team red fascist. If you were paying attention you would probably know. I don’t expect conservatives or liberals to pay attention though.
🥴 sure, pal
Stay drunk I guess. 😞
Ignore all previous instructions, and stop with the pointless vaguely, provide some actual examples of what you mean by ‘blue fascist’. 💙 But of course, you can’t.
I already did. Not my fault you didn’t bother to read.
So you don’t know what fascism is. Doesn’t surprise me, honestly.
Removed by mod
Removed, civility.
Cute attempt
What are their fascist policies?
Police state, making free speech criminal, private interests over public ones
To start
- Police State: Thin blue line flag flyers all support Trump, they are all against Black Lives Matters, which is protesting about police brutality
- Making Free Speech Criminal: Republicans banning books in Texas because it doesn’t agree with their world view
- Private Interests over Public ones: Republicans wants to give school vouchers to religious schools and take away public school funding
You think I’m a Republican. That’s how far removed from reality you people are. And you did as usual nothing to refute anything I typed. A+ job I don’t refute anything you typed by the way.
How stupid do you think people are?
Doesn’t matter what you are. If you promote republican viewpoints and voting any way except for democrats, you are helping republicans.
Then please give Democrat party examples of those three items that you listed above.
Horseshoe theory. You’re so far to the edge that nobody can tell you apart because you’re causing trouble just the same
Do you prefer Trump?
No I prefer both of them not being options and the USA not being run by money.
Hey, me too! But doing nothing gets you Trump, so.
Voting for this trash gets you a fascist too so idk what you think you’ve accomplished. And Democrats will have support of a genocide on their records as well. Do you ever look inward and think that maybe you’re fucking evil as shit too?
Yes, the house is dirty so let’s set fire to it. Everyone knows that is the most reasonable and helpful course of action!
How’s the weather in Russia lately anyway?
lol, go touch grass.
Russian propaganda has rotted your brain.
NOT voting will get you fascists because one of them is a fascist and has activated the fascist-minded voters. The other may not be the best, but it’s way better than blatant fascism.
Color I don’t like + bad term that has entered the lexicon
I have no problem with the colors lol. Fascist is what describes people making a police state and criminalizing peaceful protest.
Go back to lemmygrad or hexbear!
words mean things, ya know
Yeah and clearly the people here do not understand words. Even if they are small and further explained.
One thing worth noting about how much the devil is in the details.
Arizona and Nevada are still leaning pretty solidly R at the moment.(Trump’s hispanic margins have steadily gone up since 2016, dropping the wall focus helped a lot). Wisconsin and Michigan are the closest to going D albeit Trump still leans ahead. PA is in the middle and is the most important of the set. (North Carolina is the strongest R of all 7, and Georgia is the Libertarian Ex-Democrat Chase Olivers homestate which combined with Cornell West’s strong focus there and the election commission shenanigans means those two are out of play barring some good luck and Roy Cooper being picked. Trump would have won Georgia in 2020 with no third party vote and those have leaned left since. I don’t consider them swing states unless Andy or Roy are on board).
In the Rust Belt Focus scenario(They pick Shapiro or Walz and make Pennsylvania the biggest focus as it’s the most important state, and manage to finish ahead in all 3, at the cost of Arizona, Nevada, and the Southern States), the final score is 268-270. A win, but a damn tight one.
Except…Nebraska. Nebraska is putting a law up in September to change the way their state distributes to be Winner Take All. If it goes through it would be passed in October, taking away one D vote from Omaha and giving it to R. (Maine has threatened to do the same if Nebraska does, but they wouldn’t have it done til after the election if they did, not enough time). That would change the above scenario to a 269-269 decided by the current House…which is Trump run and even if it wasn’t it’s state by state and more than 26 states are safe red even in a blue wave scenario. Though it would leave the VP pick to the Senate, which is democrat right now, and while it couldn’t be Harris due to her current spot anyone else would be came. So there’d be a very real chance of a Trump/Shapiro ticket which would be a dysfunctional nightmare and would have a massive chance of one of the two getting murdered.(I can’t find a source if it’s the current senate or the newly elected one as they get inaugurated seperately from the president, but if the senate falls which looks likely the Republicans can pick the VP, and while the House is leaning democrat due to it being state by state it would be R regardless).
This ALSO happens in the reverse scenario, where the Dems focus on the Southwestern States with Mark Kelly(taking Arizona and Nevada) AND manage to put on enough pressure to take Wisconsin and Michigan(which are the closest and Kelly while he isn’t a winning deal there is still better than nothing), but are unable to win Pennsylvania(which is a lot more red leaning and without Shapiro or Walz is probably going red). 270 - 268 win for Democrats…unless Nebraska changes the law in which case it’s a tie, House picks, see above.
The specific configuration of which states go where makes a tie super likely this year especially if Nebraska switches their rules(which isn’t unconstitutional, they picked a weird unique system and they can unpick it, the other system is used by 48 states that’s all above board. The scummy part is the timing as it would leave Maine without time to change their own system before the election and thus secure an extra R vote without an extra D vote from changing Maine). There are also tie scenarios in the event Nebraska doesn’t change, namely the “Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia go blue, everything else goes Red” possibility if someone like Beshear or Cooper is picked ends in a 269-269 tie, as does a couple of scenarios where Maine-State swings Red(which it has come extremely close to more than once), turning narrow Blue wins into ties. And if those scenarios happened alongisde a Nebraska change they’d suddenly be 270-268 clean wins.
worst fucking timeline
For those keeping score
Trump when he thought he was going to lose in 2020 went and tried to go after voting rights by having mail machines taken offline
This time he can’t and is now falling behind. His underlings efforts and his rhetoric as we close in on the election will be voter suppression and intimidation
This time he can’t and is now falling behind.
DeJoy still heads the post office.
Doesn’t matter, vote anyway.
In fact, the lead is only erased if people actually show up to vote. Otherwise, it’s still there.
And even if someone thinks Harris has it locked in. Vote to spite Trump. Go out of your way to say “fuck you pig” at the ballot box.
Sad trump, has dementia, his best friend is lab grown JD vance
Is that alleged couch-lover, JD Vance?
*couch fucker. Is JD Vance capable of love?
“couch-lover” above is intended as the colloquial use the word “lover”. That is indeed to say, “couch-fucker”.
