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    I think we have two classes of “fast food” now. The higher class places like Five Guys, Poke Bros, Panera are going to cost you more, and you’re not going to go there every day (or even every week), but they’re pretty damned good.

    The OG fast food places - McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s, Hardee’s/Carl’s Jr., Arby’s, Taco Bell - they’re just not good enough to command the higher prices that the new class of fast food can. Not to mention that the quality of all of those chains has declined dramatically in the last decade. Obvious drop in quality plus increase in price, people notice that.

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      … They have always been. There is fast food and fast casual.

      Fast food would love to be fast casual, they sell the idea to seem like fancy fast food. Like McDonald’s having table service through the kiosk, etc.

      But this isnt new. It’s literally the business plan of the places you mentioned to not be fast food.

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      Sadly the Panera here has become garbage. The staff were seemingly wholly replaced, they look unhappy all the time, the food and ingredients have shrunk, and now you have to hope you hear them call your name so you can go pick up your food from a completely different counter (they used to bring it to your table which was a nice perk of going there), or stand around like an idiot for 10 minutes while your kid or significant other holds a table for you. And to top it off, the cinnamon roll changed again.

      I don’t mind not having the food brought to me, but they could at least give us the hockey pucks again to alert us when the food is ready. Perhaps that’s just this specific store.

      I used to love Panera. Maybe somewhere it’s still good.

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      Except you can get a Duo meal for $7 at Panera that’s soup sandwhich and chips and that’s 3$ cheaper than McDonald’s

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        I’ve never met an Panera that has everything in stock, so you’re going to be making a second or third line choice. One of your items is guaranteed to be out. Regular sandwiches, god knows why, are $14.

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          I used to love Panera back in high school, which was early 2000’s. As someone who hung out with friends at a movie theater on weekends it was the best place to eat at in the same strip mall. I still remember getting sandwiches for $4 or $5 at the time. If I was in high school today there is no way I could eat there, and if I could I also couldn’t justify spending that much. I feel like they are scrambling as well, changing a lot, making products worse, adding items nobody wants, just trying to hit big with one of them. My wife really wanted to try the new caprese sandwich they have, we were dying when she got it and all you saw was bread… when she opened it up there was like 1 slice of tomato and 1 slice of mozzarella and it was the saddest sandwich I’ve ever seen. I thought it was hilarious until I realized we paid over $10 for that joke…

          Sharing the pic so everyone else can join in on the laugh. Bad sandwich

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            My biggest gripe with them is they always add one hipster element that totally ruins the sandwich. Oh you want a high end grilled cheese? How about we put a blackberry reduction in that bitch? Grilled chicken sandwich? Why not try one with our new habanero peach marmalade?

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        Lol no you can’t. I didn’t believe you, so I checked. $11.79, and that’s for mostly cheaper options of the pick 2 (broccoli cheddar + frontega chicken). And I live in Missouri, where shit’s cheap.

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          Sorry, they are called Duets, not duos. They still come with apple/bread/chips. You cant sub anything out, but it’s still a good portion for healthier fast food option.

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              They must have gone up in the past few months. It was 6.99 last I got them I thought. Oh well! Still cheaper than a big mac or whopper

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                Last time I tried to get fast food was like 2 or 3 months ago. I went to Taco Bell, saw that the beefy 5 layer burrito was like $4.50, and just left the drive through. Fuck all that

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                  Taco Bell is my go to - I am vegetarian so my opinions are slim. But for $7 I can’t get a crunch wrap with black beans, a cheesey bean and rice burrito, and a fiesta potato and a drink with thier app combo. Then after every other meal (like every to weeks) I get a bonus something. So. Yeah, I only mess with the build your own cravings box… 9 dollars for 3 tacos and a drink is ridiculous.

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    I stopped understanding McDonald’s when there’s hundreds of homemade-like small burger places everywhere. They are so frikin tasty and cost the same

    I still remember eating an especially tasty one and playing Disco Elysium then dying from heart attack in the game. Somehow it has become a permanent memory

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      Exactly, McDonald’s niche was a very cheap and quick burger. Why pay $12 for a shitty McD when I can have a $10 burger at the Apple Pan

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    Honestly, I’m amazed people still go there to eat. The food was never really good, but at least it used to be fast and cheap. But these days, it’s neither anymore. McDonald’s is now more expensive than the gourmet burger places in my city; that feels insane.

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      It always takes a year or two for the business to really feel it. First, it takes consumers awhile to visit and realize the prices are so high. Most people aren’t going to McDonald’s every week. And sometimes it takes a few visits before they really notice the sting.

      Eventually, the place just gets a reputation for being pricey, and people slowly stop going. But it’s a frog in a boiling pot thing, and of course the executives search for any other reason besides their own pricing decisions from 18 months ago.

      Have you ever noticed in those surveys they always ask “what can we do better?” And the answers usually don’t include “be cheaper”.

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          Another reason it “can’t be pricing”. Look, these locations are doing fine. What’s wrong with yours? Clearly the problem lies with local management and, clearly, vitally, not with executive decisions.

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    Oh wow… Increased prices resulted in people going else where… Who would have seen that coming 🤔

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      I mean, you’re half right. Yeah, it’s gotten expensive, but it’s now expensive for McDonald’s-quality food. It’s not the worst of the worst, but you can easily find better quality food cheaper.

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    I’m so glad that I live in a big city, where there are hundreds of awesome small burger joints that sell better quality burgers at a much lower price.

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    Gradually increasing revenue each year is more sustainable, as it avoids the pressure of constantly surpassing record highs and potentially alienating your customer base. CEOs somehow fail to understand this. Morons.

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    they jacked prices as much as they could, had record profits, now they will have to pull back because people don’t have money.

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      I really hope McDonalds and like-minded companies become a case study on why you shouldn’t inflate prices for short term profit. It’d be great to see them hemorrhage customers and sales.

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      It’s almost like they were warned several times that “No wage, only spend” would result in consumers who can’t afford to consume.

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    Notice they are too embarrassed to post their prices online. To see the price, you have to put the item in the cart then use some bs 3rd party app. WTF McDs?

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      “If you have to ask the price, then you can’t afford it” happening in a McDonald’s, while people are out here financing a pizza from Dominos. It’s like we lost the Cold War.

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        That’s too insanely dystopian for anybody in sci-fi to have predicted it.

        The closest would be Demolition Man having Taco Bell (or Pizza Hut) as fancy dining. But they imagined the chain upping its game when it gained monopoly. How naive.

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        Warning! This definitely reads like a taco bell add but I just really appreciate taco bell for having food for vegans and not price gouging like the rest did.

        Hard disagree, if you learn what to order and how to customize your food.

        Fat ass burritos for 3.50 are not a bad deal imo, and I regularly make my own burritos at home.

        They have some trap items to avoid for sure, but the staples are still cheap. Hard shell and soft shell, rice and bean burritos, nacho fries are sort of in the middle price wise, etc.

        They are the easiest place for me to make a vegan order from hands down, they actually label shit on their order tablets. They have some freebies that are totally worth it some people never find out about because they order at the speaker exclusively. Fresco replaces cheese and dairy with a pico de gallo, you can toast most regular burritos, and even though its extra you can add nearly anything into anything for super cheap.

        Im actually not sure if I’m scamming them somehow because choosing their cheapest items and modifying is always cheaper than buying the same thing but premade. Not in any rush to ask about it either.

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          No, they absolutely price gouge. A 7-layer burrito here is 8 bucks before tax, just the burrito alone. They don’t have anything that’s actually cheap here in Canada, and I can get much better for the same price. Their “vegan” options here are also basically just their regular burritos with beans, and are just as ridiculously overpriced. It’s bottom-tier garbage food at way-too-high prices for what you get.

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            What is Canada doing to make taco bell so expensive. I’ll have to check next time I go, I know some of their menu items are poorly priced for sure but I just avoid them. 8$ for a burrito I’d be shocked to see at my local one though.

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              I wish I had a better answer than just “pure and unchecked greed”, but that’s what’s most likely. They can’t even be considered the “cheap” option anymore and the quality isn’t any better to make up for the increased prices.

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                Well at least burritos and tacos are stupid easy to make. I make a bean and rice and tomatoes mix in rice cooker all together. But yeah thats a bummer taco bell is awful near you, they’ve been great for me especially with the vegan friendly menu. Is it possible its only cheap if you avoid meat and dairy? Maybe thats the trick.

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                  The vegan friendly stuff is the same price as their beef equivalents here. Taco Bell in Canada is obnoxious.