Time to ban talking about climate change!
They can’t hear such talking anyways over the really cool sound of their coal rollers.
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So when would it be appropriate to talk about the causes of the increasing frequency of natural disasters in your opinion?
After my stock options have vested and I’ve cashed out my 401-ks.
If I went through something terrible, having somebody else say exactly why it happened would make me feel better, not attacked or used for some purpose.
The only reason I wouldn’t want to hear someone say exactly how the fuck it happened is if I wanted the causes to barrel forward unmitigated.
No we can’t talk about gun violence after a shooting! Have empathy! We shouldn’t talk about war right after an invasion, think of the people there.
Well, when the hell is it okay to talk about climate change? After years of rebuilding when no one cares again, just in time for an even strong storm? You, yes you right here, should be absolutely pissed about climate change. Oil companies and major polluters are causing this, you should abso-fuckin-lutely want to be talking about it
And privatize weather predictions so you don’t see it coming either.
So much drama. Just subscribe to their services in perpetuity and pay the premium tier to get access to hurricane information.
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And in the extra premium tier you get predictions on the future development of real estate prices in relation to climate change.
As someone living in Florida where people generally are able to predict and prepare for storms like this (even though they still cause devastation), I had absolutely no idea that it was possible for devastation like this to occur from a hurricane all the way in North Carolina. My power didn’t even go out. Did the people living there know this could happen? Was it a surprise??? How is there so much flooding over there???
I had absolutely no idea that it was possible for devastation like this to occur from a hurricane all the way in North Carolina.
That’s because it’s only really becoming a thing due to climate change.
They rarely get hurricane direct hits, but deal with the remnants of major hurricanes a lot. Not many homes are storm proofed like you’d see in Florida though. Clearly their city storm sewer infrastructures are not equipped to deal with the combination of a high annual rainfall followed by a deluge like this.
Edit: I want to clarify that Eastern NC is more prepared than out west, the eastern half sees stronger hurricane remnants more often than out west, where they still get them but they’re weaker from the mountains. Not this time, apparently.
The bad flooding is because of how steep those areas are. Down in Florida, water takes a while to make its way into the creeks, streams, and rivers. The areas with the most extreme flooding is because entire mountainsides worth of rainfall drains in the span of a couple days.
Eastern TN and western NC also had a ton of rainfall from thunderstorms just before Helene so the ground was already saturated. For reference check out this rain gauge in Asheville.
The rain from Helene didn’t really get to Western NC until the early hours of Friday the 27th. That gauge was already at 10 inches by that time. So really the storm before Helene brought more rain than Helene did. Either the thunderstorm or Helene alone would have been moderate, but manageable flash floods, but the two back to back was insane.
Hopefully they want to understand why this happened and will learn who’s to blame.
Those goddamn Cloud People launching their attacks on the American way of life! It’s an act of war!
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Yeah, I’m not in a flood zone, but seeing things like this is why I mounted a hatchet on my attic wall. It’s pretty certain I’ll never need it, but I can live a little lighter with the delusion that I’ll be able to hack my way onto the rooftop instead of dying, unfound, in a sweltering attic.
Honestly, it’s a good idea. Isn’t this how some people survived Hurricane Katrina?
It was Katrina that made me even think of doing it.
God that must be awful. Your whole life you work hard and earn the money to buy a house, you keep your whole life in there, it’s your HOME. And then some fucking storm comes and just destroys it all. I mean, hopefully you & your loved ones survive, and that’s all that really matters, but to see all the physical representation of your life just washed away. I feel terrible for those people.
There is a kid on my son’s soccer team (East Coast) who is from Cali. I asked him why his family moved here. Unfased he said some forest fire burned his home down and then when they found a place to live again another forest fire burned it down. I guess is parents were like “fuck this.”
Time to socialize the losses
People have lost their homes. Please keep your political bickering out of this.
People die to shootings: “People have died! Nows not the time for politics.”
I don’t like that logic there, and this is exactly the same. It’s always the time for politics, because when people are engaged is the best time to change their minds.
Because "Time to socialize the losses " is definitely a well thought out statement designed to start a constructive conversation and not just a plain old ignorant statement.
It’s an accurate assessment of the system we have here in the US. We privatize the gains, and socialize the losses. Not the original commenter’s fault that they can recognize a stacked deck.
That was already done over fifty years ago through the national flood insurance program, NFIP.
PSA: If you are in a flood prone area, your lender may require you to purchase flood insurance. But did you know that some communities will argue against changes to the flood maps that would show them as being in a flood prone area? This means you may be at a higher risk for flooding than the federal maps would suggest. You can still buy flood insurance through the NFIP, though.
Here’s a “myths and facts about flood insurance” page from FEMA: https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20230425/fact-sheet-myths-and-facts-about-flood-insurance
Last I checked, the food insurance was ridiculously expensive if you actually wanted to cover the full rebuild cost of your home. It wasn’t financially wise to get the insurance.
On top of that, when so many people get flooded in an event like this, everyone who does restoration work is able to raise their prices due to supply/demand. There’s no winning.
NFIP insurance is pretty limited, I think $250k structure and $100k contents. It also doesn’t cover things like additional living expenses, which would include a hotel while you’re displaced. It’s also often your only choice, though. It’s something that every home owner needs to consider for themselves based on the flood risk of their area.
They’re gonna need a lot of rice for this one…
Plain and simple, this was climate change. North Carolina has had record rain fall this year. Also the hottest summer on record beating out 2023.
Plus side is we are expanding highways and building a lot more houses. Plus we are getting a Buc-ees, so at least we will have cold drinks while we fry and drown.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/weather-news/article288918328.html
What?!? You’re telling me Hurricanes in Tennessee aren’t normal?
Yeah that is always a concern on a mountain. Volcano and hurricane insurance is a must.
“Plus we are getting a Buc-ees,” Oh hell yeah now we’re talking!!! “…so at least we will have cold drinks while we fry and drown.” Ah fuck!
Where is Buc-ees going in?
Mebane, NC
Passed unanimously. I look forward to future investigations by local news outlets. I’m sure it was on the up and up.
But dismantling NOAA means the data that proves this will be paywalled and beholden to private ownership, so skewed… So the plan to combat your line of reasoning is already in motion. They just need enough Americans to fall for their candidate.
Yeah, most people don’t care bc it’s the “frog and boiling water” tale. Hell, NOAA can’t even build an app due to corporates and capitalism.
The town of Chimney Rock is gone.
No hyperbole.
It’s gone.
There are many more we won’t know about until next week. This is a national tragedy.
Oh the bright side, probably don’t have to go to work on Monday.
There probably are a lot of people that don’t have a work to go to anymore. I wouldn’t call that bright.
Anybody want to buy a house? Half price, only floated down the river once.
Don’t have to pay taxes anymore either!
I knew a Helene and she was just as wet and wild
Thoughts and Prayers.
That’s LITERALLY All we can do now let’s go buy some Gasoline!
