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Clearly the family member is just a nazi.
Im kidding.
What would the family member even know about it? No one was saying Trump said it to the family’s face, although I can see why you’d assume he did.
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Interesting, because the person he said it to when she wasn’t there said otherwise, Mr Skeptical Mind.
You say that I’m stupid, let’s assume you’re correct. Explain to me like I’m Forrest Gump how the slain woman’s sister would know that the President didn’t call her sister a “fucking Mexican” in a private meeting.
Because from the original article, it’s clear that the family did send a bill to Trump, and never received a penny in return, and this was verified with the same family lawyer who released the sister’s statement. And no article I’ve read says the sister claims the bill was paid, a pretty damning omission. How would the reporter even know about that bill if the story was made up?
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Ok I know you have a lot of reasons for not voting Kamala, but I just gotta push back every time you say I’m eating up false stories, because most of what you said just doesn’t support that at all.
I think you should consider that maybe I have good reason for my beliefs. Let me spell it out:
- The claim is that 2 anonymous people in the room, plus notes taken at the time, include the outburst.
- This claim is made by Jeffrey Goldberg, a reporter with a decades long career unblemished by journalistic fraud.
- No one - not the family, not Meadows or anyone else associated with Trump - denies that the bill was sent to the white house, but not paid by Trump.
- No one has offered an alternative explanation as to why Trump did not pay the bill.
I think those are some good reasons to believe the story. I also get how people want to believe the family on an emotional level - what happened to them sucks and they have every right to feel whatever they want about Trump. As do you. But I will stand by the fact that on a rational level, it makes far more sense to believe this actually happened as reported.
Link to the source?
Their source is that the woman’s sister, who wasn’t in the room when Trump would have said it, says it isn’t true. Even though the rest of the details check out according to the lawyer who released that sister’s statement.
So definitely false for sure!
Well this is a new one. Probably complete bullshit like the rest.
No, it’s something he said when an American soldier of Mexican descent was murdered by a fellow soldier. He offered to pay for the funeral, then didn’t. This was while he was in office.
Heres the big problem. I’m assuming that this is some political bullshit spin job. That happens so much with him that it’s what I consider to be true until proven wrong. There’s tons of children’s stories about this. A kid lies non stop. He never learns and just lies endlessly. Then one day a serious event happens. He runs to tell the town "EVERYONE! EVERYONE! THERE IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION GOING ON! HURRY AND COME THIS WAY! "
No one believes the kid then that bad thing actually happens. The main stream media is that kid that has been endlessly lying. Most people no longer believe them. Fox, cnn, all of them. They look like lying children now. Is this a true quote? Maybe. But no one will believe it. Without even looking into it people will assume it is a false quote. So if he said it or not will probably never actually matter.
On this point specifically I believe this is the one where the actual family that buried that person said this quote was a lie. But they will probably just be called Mexican kkk nazis. Racist assholes.
of course the timing of it has to do with the fact that the election is less than 2 weeks away, but do you not remember the shit he did while in office? Every day there was a fresh scandal. Shit like this got swept under the fresh hot garbage that he spewed.
This isn’t surprising to me at all, especially knowing how racist trump is, how he actually does refuse to pay bills and also about how he does treat fallen soldiers with nothing but disdain.
He did a good job last time. I’m looking forward to him not caring about getting reelected and just being a dick lol
he did a good job with what exactly? with the deficit? nope. with the covid response? also, nope. with the economy? no. What about with the plan he put in place to pull out of afghanistan? fuck no. He didn’t do a single good thing while in office.
I’m assuming that this is some political bullshit spin job.
You know what they say when you assume…
The msm makes an ass out of me and you.
Except I’m not the one making evidence-free assumptions here.
Yes. Yes you are lol.
I am? What am I assuming exactly?
I see you made an account just to post tankie propaganda.
How’s that working out for you?
What’s a tankie?
It is complete bullshit. The family already came out and said it was. The article says the other guy they spoke to who was in the room “didn’t hear it” as if he missed it somehow, but that guy came out and said they twisted his words, and trump said nothing like that at all, he didn’t miss anything.
It’s the same with Mark Kelly. Lots of his co-workers and those employed under him are coming out of the woodwork and claiming Mark Kelly is a big liar with a Napoleon complex, and he is. I hope they throw him in prison and he rots.
Wear those down votes with pride. The more I see how the news is twisted and willingly echoed here without providing context or followup, the more I can see how dumb most of those I used to side with are.
The big question is is it choosing to ignore the facts or is it misleading news sources that is causing such a severe disconnect from reality?
A little of a and b, I suppose, depending on the person.
- Brutally Murdered American-Born Citizen and Servicemember Vanessa Guillen
I appreciate you bringing this up, but it still boggles my mind that we make any differentiation at all of someone’s worth based on where they are born.
It’s just fun to throw back in their faces that they hate americans.
They’re not real Americans.
Trump has talked about strong genes being the reason why some non Americans shouldn’t be allowed to enter…
If Trump takes any more shit out of Hitlers pkaybook, I guess he’s going to invade Norway to get heavy water plants for atom bomb production
Didn’t he try to buy Greenland or some shit when he was president? That’s probably where we should look first.
I promise you he won’t go there, unless he doesn’t know that he people living there have the wrong skin color (according to him)
While it shouldn’t affect their worth overall, it’s entirely reasonable for citizenship and military service should affect how much a specific country is willing to spend memorializing someone
Citizenship and military service are a different topic than someone’s national origin or ethnicity.
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More like, a US Presidential Candidate called an American a Mexican and it’s the media’s responsibility to report the truth.
This guy is toe-to-toe with Kamala in polls. How fucking insane.
He has said the sickest shit I’ve ever heard from a presidential candidate, yet, the reporting is easy beyond belief with Trump and media tries to reframe any Harris positive with passive language until it sounds like a problem.
They (media) are probably afraid that if Harris is elected, the news will become mundane and boring, unlike Trump, and their readership (and thus revenue) will drop.
The media has been beat up for decades as too liberal. Now, simply reporting the truth will make the accusations of bias stick even harder in conservative minds.
Pretty fucking mess we’re in, isn’t it?
They will make those accusation no matter what and they will stick just the same regardless. In fact, giving conservative politicians an easier go just makes it more likely for regular people to get caught up in the bullshit. Media that uses kid gloves for extreme right politicians actually does it because they are also on the right.
They are the problem.
If only it were so simple. The problem is so multifaceted, that there are probably more than two handfuls of contributors to the problem.
I bet it all links back to a handful of people though…
Rupert the walking angry corpse Murdock sits at that table
Vanessa Guillen’s sister still voted for Trump. That’s how insane they are
It fucking sucks, but i think he is going to win. Half of this country is so fucking stupid, we deserve a horrible piece of shit for a president.
You sure as shit better not stay home on election day with that attitude.
I’m voting blue first thing in the morning
I especially don’t see how roe v wade doesn’t give a solid 51% against him everywhere
Because a lot of people don’t care until it impacts them, because they’re a special rainbow and everyone else is the problem or not relevant in their eyes.
people give trump such a big platform his outreach is incomparable.
American politics are just sports for some people and “my team” will win no matter what because the other team “the libs” will lose! I gain satisfaction from people “losing”
I don’t deserve it. You don’t deserve it.
Nobody who is undecided or voting for Trump reads the Atlantic. It’s like screaming into the void.
The morons pay taxes and have to be represented as well… It just sucks, that, apparently, it’s ~50% of the US.
There are a lot of racists in this country. They never went away, really… They just got shamed into (mostly) silence. Trump makes them feel brave again, because he’s just like them.
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Remember “grab 'em by the pussy”? The crazy shit he says didn’t make any difference then either. Remember to vote.
That’s not even the worst of what he did. Let’s assume he was just joking about that and it was out of context
Remember during covid when he went into public view and literally said nonsense like using light to kill covid in the human body and that they were looking at using bleach or whatever to kill it in the body, whilst his team clearly were cringing in the background
That had to be the most awkward moment worldwide during covid (even more so than the fact that here in Australia, our right wing prime Minister, who had lots of secret portfolios didn’t order vaccines). It was literally like listening to a random druggo rambling and making stuff up.
And here in Australia, we now have politicians mimicking him.
How much does it cost to bury an avaricious, racist, mendacious sociopath? Feels like there is a gag in here somewhere.
Swamp burials are free.
How much to gag an avaricious, racist, mendacious sociopath? Shall we start a GoFundMe?
First pledge coming in from Dr Evil, $1m
I’ll pitch in.
Remember though…. Both sides are apparently the same according to some people.
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Lol at you talking like Trump isn’t going to 100x the bomb shipments to Israel on day 1.
The dude that told Bibi that he needed “to finish the job quickly.” The dudes whose son in law talked about how much beutiful beachfront property Gaza has.
That guy is somehow the guy you’re propping up right now as better than Biden on gaza. That guy.
It’s because they don’t care. They are Maga-Trolls pushing for power seize. That’s all… the only genocide they are interested in, is the one they are planning.
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I think it’s more along the lines of you’re being disingenuous with the lens you’re applying. Sure, the current admin, and future Harris if elected, can certainly be criticized on foreign policy around Israel and Gaza. The flip side is the context that Trump would be so much worse and doing the same shit except even worse. Harris openly discusses a two state solution.
The point is, the two presidential candidates do differ and you’re implying they don’t. Regardless of your political bent, I’m pretty far on the left side, you have to admit in reality we have a two party system and one is better for the future of the people of Gaza.
Hence, we should all vote accordingly. I think mostly it’s that you’re implying we shouldn’t vote Harris when the alternative is worse.
They know that they won’t be in Gaza getting bombed, so they’re free to live their progressive healing fantasy pipedream while using pretend compassion for Palestinians to push their privileged political narrative.
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Typical tankie bullshit.
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Surely the side that is telling Israel to “finish the job” won’t aide a genocide!
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Considering the fact that you’re self-proclaimed pro-china. I’m going to not bother interacting with you. It would be unfair.
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Well the other side from them thinks they’re not aiding the genocide enough. So arguably even worse.
Begone, tankie. You have no room to complain about genocide.
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Nice new account, yanks. Wonder how long this one’ll last?
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Are you insane or are you just stupid?
Edit: you’re a tankie so you are both
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His defenders will ask, “Well… That does seem excessive, doesn’t it?” The racism will be missed or ignored, the service status will be ignored, they’ll try to approach it logically. They seriously won’t see those two items. They will latch on to what they can argue. “I’m just asking!”
See how easy that was? Next one please.
If the cost is the only thing someone finds offensive, that’s enough said.
Absolutely unfit for office, but still eligible for trial.
Only if he loses. Let’s make that happen.
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https://people.com/trump-accused-raging-murdered-soldier-funeral-bill-8732728
Context and more info if anybody needs it.
I think the original article in the Atlantic is worth the read. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/
Add it to the pile of shit that should’ve ended his campaign in any reasonable timeline.
I don’t fucking get it. I seriously fail to see how past events have lead us to be so complacent. I just want an answer but I know we won’t ever get a good one. A single scandal used to have the power to make an official resign, how the hell have we gotten here?
Lack of competition.
Trump does not admit defeat. He never has, he never will. Anyone could have done this at any time, it just took someone shameless enough to try.
He will make rich people richer.
Those people control every aspect of what a large portion of the population see and hear from the moment they wake up to the moment they go to sleep.
Never in human history has a power that immense being controlled by the greediest and most corrupt group of our population.
It is inevitable that someone like him will be in control sooner (maybe in a couple weeks) or later. We’re at the bottom of the mountain watching a few boulders come down as the rest of the avalanche is roaring down the mountain.
Even if he loses (unlikely) they won’t stop because stopping isn’t an option.
Greed and Corruption. That’s all it is. There’s no other reason necessary.
I hope that helps you understand what’s going on a bit better. You won’t like it, no rational person does, but it’s the facts.
In the face of inevitably I guess all you can ask is why. I hope this ends well
To me it’s more like this:
We all saw the brick wall coming. The psycho driving the bus refuses to turn. Now it’s too late so we’re all screaming and bracing for the impact.
Some of us hope we survive. Some hope we don’t because survivors are going to be disfigured and crippled at best.
Some of us are angry that half the bus was manipulated into letting the psycho drive.
The psycho is laughing because they don’t care who they hurt and they’re having the time of their life.
And the story is illustrated by Mo Williams, and it’s titled: ‘Dont let the Psycho drive the Bus’
But like most childrens book; adults forgot the lessons.
I’ve done more for the Mexicans than any other president. The Mexicans love me. When I see a Mexican I grab them by the enchiladas and they let me.
It shouldn’t cost $60,000 to bury anyone.
That’s so not the point.
Por que no los dos? I’m free to be disgusted with funeral costs and you’re free to make your point.
Because the unhinged racism is 1,000 times worse than the cost.
That’s like “yeah, plus JFKs convertible limousine had terrible hubcaps”
Sure, if hubcaps were something to get enraged about. I don’t think that’s remotely comparable, but you do you.
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