• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
    311·
    23 hours ago

    Ah… remember when England decided they owned an island that was located inside the territorial waters of another country?

  • Miles O'Brien@startrek.websiteEnglish
    4·
    2 days ago

    You know, I don’t think there’s a single war I Care about more than any other…

    Now technological era, on the other hand… I’m a sucker for anything from Europe/Mediterranean coast from the 1200s-1500s.

    And who doesn’t love exploring early human history from Gobekli Tepe to Ur.

    Fascinating stuff.

  • JigglySackles@lemmy.world
    224·
    1 day ago

    I missed the memo. I am just generally anti war and don’t like reading about them. War is all because of dickhead leaders that can’t act decent, treat others right, or talk things out without being little insecure manbabies. And when manchildren in power have their big boi pp insulted they make the less powerful fight for them instead of doing anything respectful. Some rebellions which lead to wars are justified. Gotta stick it back to the empowered manchildren sometimes. But it all comes down to a shitty leader.

    • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      1 day ago

      I decided to focus on wars of leftest and/or peasant uprisings. Often heart breaking, but man if you’ve ever enjoyed cheering for the underdog, they are definitely that. Plus, you’re automatically learning about the Class War at the same time :D

    • andros_rex@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 day ago

      It can be very valuable and interesting to study the surrounding context of a war. Military history with battles and kill counts and discussions of tactics is something I find boring af, but there are endless discussions to be had about how the causes of the American Civil War can be traced back to before even the Revolution and tracing the repercussions of the war all the way up through to current politics.

      Think about how the Taiping Rebellion, which killed more than 20 million people, would have affected day to day life in 19th century China - which weakened China and rendered it more vulnerable to European powers. Think the Opium Wars. Think about how Hong Kong was just returned to China in 1999 - and all of the complexities that entailed.

      Or how the World Wars depopulated Russia. You had a generation dead or traumatized. Russian alcoholism is usually treated as a joke - trauma can have intergenerational changes in genetic expression.

      Wars also make excellent chronological signposts. I’ garbage at dates, but usually wars segment significant social/economic/cultural/blah/blah/blah changes that they help me keep events organized in my head.

    • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      21·
      1 day ago

      I think you missed the joke, it’s not making a point about all wars being bad it’s about middle aged dudes being obsessed with wars

      • JigglySackles@lemmy.world
        4·
        22 hours ago

        I understood the joke just fine. I started my comment off with “I missed the memo” implying I never took any interest in wars or never got assigned a war to obsess over.

  • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    1 day ago

    I’m the War on Christmas guy, and I’m getting my ass handed to me every single year.

    • m0darn@lemmy.ca
      1·
      22 hours ago

      I just watched The Cynical Historian’s review of the recent Napoleon flick. It was great. The review I mean, not the movie. It tried to tell Napoleon’s whole story, which is just not feasible in the span of a single film.

      I had no idea there were 7 coalition wars, that’s crazy.

  • andros_rex@lemmy.world
    442·
    1 day ago

    The best class I took in college was an intercession course about the Vietnam War. We had to read an entire book pretty much every day, which was great prep for grad school.

    I basically learned that the entire war was completely unjustified, it was horrific and brutal on both sides in ways that aren’t talked about, but that ultimately the United States had absolutely no business interfering. Vietnam had spent years under French colonial control, which they overthrew under their own power. They had already asserted a desire to rule themselves.

    Tonkin was also a genuine false flag, which just isn’t acknowledged? We manufactured the cause for an extremely unpopular war. So many young man died or were disabled because of something that was pointless.

    That class was first that really got me to question the patriotic narrative I was taught about American history in high school.

  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world
    221·
    1 day ago

    WWI was objectively the most world changing and sets the stage for the entire modern era, if you squint WWII was just the Extended Edition of WWI all that being said WWIII was still my favorite.

    • palordrolap@fedia.io
      121·
      1 day ago

      « Ce n’est pas une paix, c’est un armistice de vingt ans » — Ferdinand Foch about the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

      Often translated as “This isn’t a peace treaty, it’s an armistice for twenty years.” but some might prefer “This is no peace, it’s a twenty-year ceasefire.”