• M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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    25 days ago

    Wonder if they tried heating the milk up to 63 degrees C for 30 mins before consumption?

    Maybe that would help.

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    24 days ago

    And I’m and American in Colombia where they pasteurize the milk to the point where it is stored at room temperature.

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      22 days ago

      UHT milk tastes disgusting though. Not sure if it’s the additives here in the UK.

      Pasteurization is a wonderful thing however.

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    24 days ago

    Damn.
    I didn’t have “Raw Milk encouraged by the US govt. causes second pandemic in 5 years” on my bingo card for 2025.

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    25 days ago

    Just have a spoon of pesticides after drinking that pure natural raw milk. If it’s good for the corn it’s good for you.

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    24 days ago

    I grew up on a dairy farm and we drank raw milk every day. I can remember my sisters bringing the milk pitcher to the barn and dipping into the bulk tank of raw milk every morning or so. No one got sick and no one died. We even made butter at home from it after separating the cream. But pasteurization is a good thing for all you urbane urbanites out there. It increases the shelf life and safety for consumption. Plus it reduces number of small dairies near population centers that used to exist. Dairies can be 100+ miles away now. After all, you wouldn’t want to be exposed to the smell of cow shit right?

    Raw milk does taste very different from store bought pasteurized milk, (whole milk ain’t whole). And like shelf stable milk, I doubt anyone of you would like drinking it.

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      24 days ago

      When I was a kid, we went to our neighbor who was a small milk farmer and got raw milk basically every day. Never got sick or anything.

      Can confirm that raw milk does taste different, and to be honest sometimes I miss the taste when I drink pasteurized milk now

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        24 days ago

        While I certainly don’t miss milking cows, I too miss the insanely rich texture and flavor of that fresh from the cow milk.

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      24 days ago

      PASTEURIZATION IS A GOOD THING

      LOL… the downvoting. I think as usual people read the first sentence and that’s it. So you saying “pasteurization is a good thing” got lost.

      PASTEURIZATION IS A GOOD THING

      But totally agree - raw milk, in the right situation and handled appropriately, which means COWS YOU KNOW is just so much better. To the point where after our one neighbor we’d get it from moved away I just stopped drinking milk at all.

      PASTEURIZATION IS A GOOD THING

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      Those are also cows you personally owned and cared for. You knew their health, you knew their living conditions, and the milk wasn’t produced soley (or maybe at all) for big corporate profits where production is the goal, and the animals well-being isn’t.

      I’m sure other people would be more supportive if the sources could be trusted, but that’s difficult when you’ve seen how livestock is treated.

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        24 days ago

        You do understand that ALL dairy farms that sell milk are regularly tested for safety of the milk they sell. This is federally mandated. You miss the thresholds for bacteria counts, you will be dumping all your milk produced until it tests clean again. So those cows can’t be held in very dirty and vile conditions because your milk won’t pass those mandated tests. Slackers go broke and are out of business in short order.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for selling pasteurized milk in stores. The milk you buy in the store can be a week old before you see it on the shelf. But the unreasoning fear of raw milk is just plain ridiculous.

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          24 days ago

          After surviving one pandemic, it’s totally fair that some of us are a bit wary of raw milk now because multiple places have found bird flu in it. Judging us in the way you are isn’t okay.

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            There was panic about raw milk looonnnggg before Covid. And I if you had read what I wrote, I did say pasteurization IS a good thing and I’m all for it. But it’s just not the evil most think it is.

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            Judging us in the way you are isn’t okay.

            But judging bluewing… totally ok?

            More importantly: how are they judging again?

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              24 days ago

              How was I judging? I was defending those of us who are concerned about the whole raw milk having bird flu thing. I was simply saying that those of us with concerns are valid in our feelings.

              If you read all of bluewing’s comments, the tone comes off, imo, as talking down to those of us who are concerned. Bluewing grew up on a dairy drinking raw milk every day and didn’t get sick and seems to be exuding a sense of superiority because of it… I also grew up on raw milk and didn’t get sick from it. Doesn’t make me less concerned over bird flu lol

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                How was I judging?

                If you read all of bluewing’s comments, the tone comes off, imo, as talking down to those of us who are concerned

                And yet they specifically acknowledged the importance of pasteurization, etc, while simply saying in the right setting raw milk is tasty. That’s not judging that’s simply providing their perspective.

                You are being overly sensitive and… IMO & LOL, “exuding a sense of superiority”. Don’t take it too seriously but I always find that basic hypocrisy - and I acknowledge we all do it - just so hilarious.

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          Those inspections are carried out by federal inspectors. The incoming administration wants to severely cut funding for pretty much “the government” (except the military). That means fewer inspectorsand less thorough inspections. That’s how things like the Boar’s Head thing, and listeria outbreaks in spinach happen. They’re happening more and more because of industrial farming processes coupled with more relaxed federal inspections.

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    25 days ago

    They really should start selling it and marketing it as never frozen fresh. It’ll be even more effective that way once its legal nationwide.

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    I’m cool with idiots who don’t know any better getting what’s coming to them… but I’m not really cool with them sneezing on the same door handles I turn.

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      So you get a liquid that’d roughly 20% alcohol and mostly milk?

      Yeah that’s not gonna do it.

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          Man, a shot of Vodka at 40% has me questioning my life choices, I cannot imagine taking a shot of this goddamn paint thinner holy shit

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          Even if you do 95% everclear (which we don’t even have in the EU, we’d fucking kill ourselves with that shit), you’d still only get 47.5% alcohol with the rest being milk, which is not enough to sterilise it.

          Like above 42% will kill a lot of stuff in it, but it’s not enough to sterilise it.

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            24 days ago

            OK, but pasteurization doesn’t sterilize it either. And if you can’t get everclear, you probably can’t get raw milk. And, OP was making a joke…

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              Sure man, but I’m a pedant with a shit sense of humour and I like to point out myths that may or may not be actually relevant if it “came down to it.” And unlike in the movies where you just spray some whisky on a wound, alcohol isn’t a magical get-rid-of-all-chance-of-infection when it’s in levels of like <50%.

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                I recall they were telling us it needed to be pretty much exactly 70% to sanitise hands during COVID

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                A lot of people take humor as fact, either by not understanding it as satire or by thinking it’s funny because it’s true etc. So while a bit of a party pooper, I don’t think some light correction is all that harmful.

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      Ugh my wife’s step-sisters husband is a pharmacist. His body is riddled with tumors but he swears the ivermectin and supplements are what’s fighting the cancer. Not the chemo. Nope. That’s promoting the cancer.

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          Agreed. I’m not to fond of him (or my wife’s step-sister, for that matter)…obviously I don’t want him to die, or be in pain…but I feel real bad for his kids (my step-niblings). They’re already at a tough age (middle school), their dad is dying, and they’ve all drunk the Kool aid. The whole side of the family has, save for maybe one or two of my half-BILs.

          Last week, the mom (who runs an upscale clothing store) was saying she only wants to hire old white ladies and won’t hire kids anymore. The daughter pipes up saying “yeah kids these days are lazy, they don’t want to work”, parroting the parents talking points. But literally 30 seconds later, the mom is saying that it’s the slow season and she’s spending most of her day watching Netflix. The self-awareness is just completely missing.