How fucked up is it that the day after the ceo of a major health insurance company was murdered in broad daylight,
The next day another health insurance company said they would no longer limit anesthesia during surgeries.
This makes me realize something, and it’s not what our sponsor or corporate donor wants me to believe.
It’s true. The YT link is for music. Here’s the article.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem
‘We have to wait for elections to attempt to fix anything’ is just something we’ve been brainwashed to believe.
Enough people deciding they want change immediately makes it happen. Especially when those at the reigns fear immediate backlash.
Elections are theater as long as corporate campaign funding exists.
Elections were the deal. We’d vote for representatives and abide by their decisions rather than, y’know, killing people in the streets to change society.
When elections can’t change society, though. When the deal is broken, it’s back to the old ways.
Yep. The social contract has been destroyed. Time to stop holding up our end of it.
Yea we feast on their money while they get to serve it up voluntarily to stay clear of the guillotine.
Good. Let the celebration continue.
It’s bi-partisan too. Which makes this infinitely more insane
I’ve been pretty impressed that the shooter has so far evaded police. I can only imagine that there have been at least one or two incidents thus far where people, be it cops or witnesses, had a clear opportunity to take actions that would lead to his immediate capture, but decided not to.
From what I know, cops often rely on the cooperation of the public to resolve crimes, but they may not be getting any on this one.
Well, the news is now out that these corporate fatcats are not as untouchable as they think
“United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s final KD ratio (7,652,103:1) lands him among the all time greats,” a thread deleted by r/interestingasfuck moderators said.
I would pay for that to be his grave stone
It only costs one bottle of spray paint
They’re gonna have to put this dipshit’s grave on private property.
By definition, none of the kills are his. They’re all assists.
Still pretty impressive ratio though
KDA is perfectly valid, some classes just don’t do any work themselves.
unsuccessfully.
Something something and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t, etc. The only thing I feel bad about is if he
hashad young children who couldn’t understand he was a waste of skin, they have my sympathy.Feel worse for the millions of children that are parentless due to his policy decisions. His kids will be FINE.
Crying from the 3rd floor of their yacht…
Don’t forget the children whose siblings died due to insurance fuckery, and the parents who’ve lost children.
yeah alls his theoretical kids would have is millions of dollars, the best education, a lavish lifestyle, trust funds, but they would not have their asshole dad.
They aren’t theoretical, he did have children.
So do many people who have their claims denied…
You can feel bad for his family while also not feeling bad about his death. Losing a loved one is hard regardless of how much money you have. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t ultimately a net positive (although I’m doubtful that UH will actually change any policies because of this)
I feel bad for his kids. They didn’t choose their parents.
His wife on the other hand did choose him, so fuck her too.
Aren’t they already seperated?
So she is about to paid out big time with blood money he stole…
Yeah real peach
He and this wife didn’t choose their parents either (and any other contributing factors in their environment that made them who they are). Growing older doesn’t change the causes of the development of their brain, the cause of the choices you make, and if we could have saved them from becoming the person they did then we should.
With even the most evil people we can be sad they died but also happy they can’t do more evil. Uday Hussein, son of Saddam Hussein did some evil stuff and and if we could have prevented him from becoming the person he did when at age 8 or at age 18 then it’s the same.
Don’t the crime if you can’t do the time?
That’s the life his father chose for them.
It isn’t impossible to feel bad for both?
It is about priorities…
What priorities are there? I’m talking about emotions, not actions.
You can feel bad for both the children of this guy that will now grow up without a father and the millions of people he harmed at the same time. I’m not even saying I feel equally as bad for his children as his victims’ children (because losing a parent to a preventable death due to insurance is objectively a worse situation). All I’m saying is it’s reasonable to feel sympathy for both. It’s not like the kids had a choice in what their dad did.
Some of those who had claims denied are children.
I didn’t dispute that?
Well I did not know so until this moment for me it was theoretical. It does not matter but now I know.
I would honestly go so far as to suggest that in the long term, not having this monster raise them (given they’ll still have plenty of money) probably leaves them better off.
His kids are gonna be worse 20-40milliom per head.
They will be fine. I doubt they will ever understand why entire society turned on their parasite shitstain father.
Money doesn’t fix trauma, and childhood trauma is rarely fully healed. The kids did nothing wrong, and you should feel bad for them.
I feel bad they had a monster for a father.
Like I said, my feelings are focused on those he harmed. Eat the fucking rich.
They’re already teenagers. The damage has been done, but hopefully this act will help them decide not to follow in their father’s footsteps.
These execs are scared their own children will ask them to explain what they do for a living. Doubt they raise their kids as much as they pay someone else to do it. That being said, Elmo’s kids are stuck on a compound. That’s definitely going to mess them up.
His kids have been profiting off of the death he had a hand in. They’ll be just fine in their ivory towers, whatever happens.
Why the fuck would the moderators care about how much work it is to remove the posts.
One of the mods said (in the article) that to their knowledge it’s mostly the paid admins removing it not the unpaid moderators.
The quote I was referencing is this:
“People - Please don’t make the life of your mods a living hell. Anything that is celebrating violence is going to get taken down - if not from us, then from reddit. I think all the mods understand that there is a high level of frustration and antipathy towards insurance and insurance execs, but we also understand that murdering people in the streets is not good. We are a public group of medical professionals, we still need to act like that.”
The line about making their lives a living hell?
If you ever feel the need to type that in reference to your volunteer Reddit moderation… Stand up, go outside.
Imagine letting an unpaid position on social media “make life hell”
Well, first of all fuck reddit, but secondly: if you appreciate actual human moderation in any significant sense - it’s hard work.
Getting paid to do it is rare (again - fuck reddit, they should get off of there) but on any site that’s actually trying to honestly build or host a community it takes time to check the reports, message the people, log the entry all that shit. It’s a huge pain in the ass when something blows up, which is why neither you or I will likely ever be mods. When it’s the scale of reddit it’s bound to be a lot of scrambling until shit cools off again.
To be honest, I actually don’t really appreciate human moderation, so that’s probably biasing my position.
I can block communities. I can block users. I can set word filters.
If I block someone, I never have to hear from them again. If a moderator does, they’ll be back with a new account, and then I DO have to hear from them.
I’d far prefer a “federated” and crowdsourced mechanism to layer onto an extremely lightly moderated foundational layer.
If someone, or someones, want to curate a filter list that aligns with my sensibilities, awesome, I’ll opt in. I’ll contribute. If I bump into unresolvable issues with other filter curators I’ll fork the filter.
I don’t need or want a tiny subset of users working full time for free getting burnt out or going on power trip crusades.
we also understand that murdering people in the streets is not good.
Cute of yout to assume plebs think of this guy as a human…
I am not sure about others bit I see a high ranking officer within corpo regime got taken out.
Do we cry when cartel members gets wacked?
If someone is directly responsible for the deaths of millions of people and the courts hold the position that corporate profits outweigh human life, then yeah eventually someone is going to take matters into their own hands. The real question is, will this become a trend? For example, would anyone really be upset if all the would-be school shooters look at this as an example of how their frustrations could be used to make a real difference in the world? Imagine if CEOs were suddenly afraid of real-world consequences when their greed hurts people?
Regime whores doing regime’s bidding
If the admins feel like mods aren’t doing enough to keep a sub within reddits guidelines, they may remove mods or even ban the subreddit entirely.
🤣
This guy was willing to do it for free. Imagine if there was a bounty.
TBF, we don’t know that. Might’ve been a paid hitman.
The professional killer was the one who died.
According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that’s the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.
Leaving the DNA behind doesn’t really identify him if his DNA is not in the system.
But nowadays the odds some relative of yours put theirs up on some family tree site is pretty high so they could narrow the suspect pool quite a bit going that route.
His DNA doesn’t need to be in any system. These days there are professionals that take DNA results and comb through the databases to find close relatives that are in the system. It’s how they caught the BTK Killer.
I think you’re thinking of the Golden State Killer (among many others). BTK was caught through digital forensics, not forensic genealogy.
Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.
No, not that I’m aware of.
Does he have an OnlyFans?
Anything sent like that would be frozen. Monero would be the better option.
Does he have a Patreon?
Don’t get scammed but if he ever needs a legal defense fund, I think the plebs can figure it out.
He did job well, least we can do it pay respects
Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.
Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn’t really have any time to enjoy it.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
This is one of the things that scares me about most about completely anonymous currencies and networks: untraceable kill orders and, to a lesser extent, unlimited bribery (that already exists in US). Because you know, it opens the most possibilities to people with money. Like billionaires.
We need a black market gofundme so we can crowd source hits to keep up.
I’m not sure we would outweigh them - you know the statistics, almost half the wealth (potential kill orders) is held by top 1.1%.
I suspect billionaires and other people of high authority, especially, would be the first ones on the list. But your average everyday person is very unlikely to be on the list because they don’t have enough people who hate them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell
Interesting guy.
Indeed he is. Did you read the SI?
SI?
Essay, sorry
When society gets to the point where you will die if you don’t do anything … or you will die if you do something …
Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don’t do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.
If you’re going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.
Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it’s barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.
I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.
Hopefully it doesn’t come to that, and he just never gets caught.
If he does, it’s gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.
Except the government will probably make GoFundMe freeze the funds for the campaign.
It’s a legal defense fund, not a bounty reward.
Granted, they’d probably still do so anyways.
Oh, I’m almost certain that they would primarily because they would not want him having money to fight a legal battle.
He won’t be paying for it in either case, someone will pick this up pro-bono.
if this dude gets found he won’t make it to trial.
It’s been 3 days, and the chances of them finding him go down with every day.
If I was him id be in the Appalachians camping by now with no internet or cell connected devices. Id just wait a month or two and move all of my shit out of new york, mind you he may not even be a New Yorker he could be Californian for all we know.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently. Taking it to trial and giving this guy a voice could make things so much worse for them. They’re afraid of creating a robin hood, and class solidarity; of giving the working class a hero and cause to rally around.
They’re so close to creating a robot army that can suppress the masses. They just have to bide their time until revolution is impossible.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently.
Wouldn’t that backfire though?
Won’t more people start thinking “So this guy killed a really important CEO and apparently never got caught nor faced repercussions… you know what…”
Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.
Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He’ll be a hero either way, the question is how much.
Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?
This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.
The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.
This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.
Jim bell ftw
My only concern is that I hope this doesn’t become an Archduke Ferdinand for an American Civil War part 2.
But how…? Are Magas sad/angry that this happened? Most likely it’s the opposite. This is a poor/middle-class vs rich/ultra-wealthy scenario. I guess unless Fox tells/tricks them to be angry and blame liberals, but I’m sure plenty of them are not upset about this. I see it as “the enemy of my enemy” type deal.
This is the most united America has been since 911
Yeah, even the MAGA people I know are like “aight, cool”
Until Fox News tells them otherwise.
Is it really a civil war when 99% of the people are on one side?
I think you’re underestimating the amount of “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” out there.
Over half the country voted for trump, the man who will make everything worse and who appeals to people’s most base instincts. Some of the worst mass shootings were under Trump.
I don’t think violence will necessarily be contained to Democrats and old style Republicans. The new right likes corruption, which includes POS health insurance companies.
If that’s the case then it will just be the class war heating up because one side finally started fighting back.
So few of them, so many of us
united healthcare? how many divisions do they have?
They united the people against them. That’s living up to half the name, I guess.
Man, this shit just keeps being funny. The longer it stays funny, the better it affects all involved.
TIL Reddit has paid employees, for what they call the “modcoc team”.
Hopefully dude never gets caught (Which he probably won’t as it’s now been greater than 48 hours, and we all know what that means if you’ve seen The First 48)
But if he does, it’s going to be awfully hard putting together a jury that hasn’t heard of JURY NULLIFICATION
First 48 is about finding a victim alive. Murderers are commonly identified and caught outside that window.
48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time
If they catch him they will kill him.
He should walk into a news organisation lobby and ask to be arrested there
And then they’ll kill him while waiting for a trial.
But the world would know it was murder and not “resisting arrest”
Would that change anything in a country where Trump is re-elected?
The cynic in me says nothing matters and nothing ever changes, the ideologe says it gives people ideas, ideas that build up and can one day turn into action.
Well, let’s hope the second part of you is right.
Exactly. There’s no way they’ll allow him to speak his mind or allow the people to rally in his support in a huge trial. They find him, he’s dead. The “how” they’ll figure it out. Happy cop trigger, killed while trying to escape, heart attack, attacked by a bear, hit by meteorite. They’ll come up with something, mark my words.
At this point, I don’t even think they want to catch him anymore. He’s already being talked about as a hero, throwing him in jail would make him a martyr. People would protest at the trial too, it would be a mess.
