• Snapz@lemmy.world
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    Luigi, I can forgive a lot, but shareholder value… How could you, man?

    How am I supposed to tell my kids about his when they are back from the character building camp I sent them to where they were hunting lesser human beings for sport in an eastern European country I won’t name? This is really going to crush their big, delicate hearts…

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      Pff, peasant, sending your children off to some far ofd shithole. Shell out some real money and I’m pretty sure you can find some human hunting grounds within the U S of A. Turn it into family bonding time like a good father.

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    It should be lower. This incident really put a spotlight on their claims denial rate being the highest in the industry, twice as high as industry average. A lot of customers will probably be leaving but that hit won’t happen until later when the next billing cycle comes.

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      A lot of customers will probably be leaving

      How many of their customers actually chose them? Most people get insurance through their job

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        The business do also have to choose. Companies will often act like whatever insurance they have is the only option to them, but really they choose the insurance provider. Which means, especially in small businesses, if everyone is pissed about their shitty insurance, it can be changed. Unfortunately that means there is a gap between cause and effect, but there can be an effect.

        Hopefully that name becomes mud to the point where people hear United and recoil. It is, after all, a benefit that is suppose to attract talent, if it isn’t doing that, something will change.

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      Their claim denial rate is probably “good” for the share price. Less claim payouts equals more money equals more shareholder value. Morbid, isn’t it?

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      Or the idiotic “open enrollment” period. Can’t believe they only let us change health insurance once a year.

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        Unless you got a baby. Like you need to be in an accident that will take 9 months to conclude…say you’re the only female astronaut going to the space station for a weekend on a Boeing starliner spacecraft but it starts leaking helium. What would you do if you suddenly needed to pay for inter spacial health care but open enrollment was a month ago? I don’t known what, but I’d start gathering tungsten parts from around the craft and I’d take some spacewalks at strategic times to loose said parts straight on to -toss has censored this part- and the car would roll down the hill in American movie style and we’d be laughing! Wait what about a baby! You could get pregnant in space and then you could sign up!..the baby, not you.

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    Good, let it crash and burn and let it not be the only one

    Free healthcare for all US citizens!

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      We need a George Soros who would pay off private security companies who you know these CEOs pay very poorly to look the other way when they reach a quiet dark not very populated destination.

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        At that point, just bribe one of the security team members to do it and smaller bribes for everyone else on the security team to not see it.

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    Why are healthcare denials sent to and shouldered by patients? If you go to an in network facility, that place is vetted by insurer. So why isn’t a ‘denial’ a matter between the provider and the insurer and transparent to the patient?

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    And if Americans really did have the ability to shop around for the health insurance they wouldn’t need in a sane country in this first place, this might be a good thing.

    As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.

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      I don’t even know what goes on anymore. I’ve had good health insurance in the USA for years (I’m a trucker) but have not had health insurance in Canada for 7 years (because I’m a trucker of no fixed address and health care is provincial, i pay income taxes to an entity that issues my driver’s license but denies i live there when it comes to my health insurance) My american health insurance doesn’t give two shits where i live. My drivers license is to a post office box near my employer of 7 years. I’m literally homeless but consistently pay taxes and reside in one county in one province with a steady employer but i just won’t lie so i don;t have “canadian” health insurance, which is never been my “birthright as a Canadian” like muttonhead socialists talk about, it’s always been provincially determined while the federal government pretends it wasn’t something that happened despite their resistance, when provincials had balls and thought of themselves as their region, not canadians.

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      As it is, anyone with UHC (like my family) will end up paying a higher premium.

      Rates for 2025 are set already.

      You can’t switch next cycle like the rest of people prolly gonna do?

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        Which “rest of people” get a choice of insurance providers from their employer?

        Or do you mean pay a hell of a lot more for a plan the employer isn’t offering?

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          fair point, well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.

          you are deff on point that they will extract to punish for this. but staying with them is a bad business decision unless your employer is getting kick backs.

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            Big companies will switch if the rates justify it, it’s a yearly bidding war, and quite annoying when you have to change insurance cards and even a different provider because of things beyond your control. Healthcare should be nationalized and not tied to employment for so many reasons.

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            well tell your employer to switch, also tell your coworkers.

            Has that ever worked for you? Have you only worked in small businesses or something?

            If things were that simple, the CEO wouldn’t have been assassinated in the first place.

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                Yeah, okay. The CEO will be very happy to see some random low-level peon about which insurance company ConHugeCo uses.

                I’m thinking you’re not actually in the U.S. at this point if you think that’s how anything works.

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                  Health insurance costs the company money too, it’s why United was so popular, it’s cheaper for the company. If they raise their rates, the company has to foot part of that bill. Normally 50+% is covered by your employer. That’s why it is so much cheaper to get insurance through your company than going market. So if United raises rates by 25%, your employer is as pissed as you are. What your employer might not care about(if you are in a big company) is things like denial rates or employee experience.

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              Sounds like your workplace should unionize.

              Not saying it would be easy nor quick but it would be a lot more effective than berating people on the internet who agree with you.

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    Think of the shareholders you monsters! Only they matter! Not the patients. Duh; Businesses pay huge premiums to insure their employees, can’t have that money being used for the good of the people it’s meant to help.

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    Too bad they will make damn sure this doesn’t hurt the shareholders but the people themselves.