Summary
Matthew Livelsberger, the suspect behind the Tesla Cybertruck explosion outside Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas, was described as a “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret with 19 years of military service.
Livelsberger, who died in the blast, rented the Cybertruck in Colorado and filled it with explosives, injuring seven.
Authorities are investigating the incident’s symbolism, speculating it may have been a political statement due to its location and links to Trump and Elon Musk.
No clear motive has been established.
Saying this as an ex-soldier: The highly trained special forces are just as susceptible to psyops as the people they use them on. Sometimes more so because “if it was used on them, they would know better from experience” as they drink two more scoops of hooah Kool Ade. Nationalism isn’t patriotism, and patriotism is earned and not irrevocable.
That soldier was lied to and manipulated, and fell for it.
That soldier was lied to and manipulated, and fell for it.
“Big Trump Supporter” Story checks out.
My money is on CTE. Five deployments to Afghanistan as a Green Beret… Apparently he had a “background in communications, IT and tactical unmanned aerial vehicles”, so maybe not quite the tip of the spear, but still.
Is there genuinely that much severe head trauma in active duty? Assumed hearing damage, PTSD, lacerations and breaks and stuff but figured in armed combat direct blows to the head mightn’t be as common. I’m ignorant though, does it happen in training or on base more??
If you work with explosives or any hand-to-hand combat, it’s a strong possibility.
Some concussions might also just be due to some of their regular barracks hijinx.
Do you get a Purple Heart if you’re wounded in barracks shenanigans but technically deployed in an active combat zone? It would be a little funny
No, only from enemy attack.
This is why it’s nicknamed the “enemy marksmanship medal”.
Yes. There is clear cut scientific evidence firing and assault rifle newr your face. Aka to aim. Causes blow back to your brain hitting you skull. Every. Single. Bullet. Fired. Now that’s just probably the damage done during training. Who knows how bad everything else is for a human brain.
I’m mostly just worried about the level of training the Green Berets get. This guy clearly didn’t understand how explosives work and made the shittiest most ineffective bomb.
Sure. I was attached to MARSOC early on when they were forming the groups and recruiting from Raiders and Force Recon. I was usually attached when they needed to plus up for DMRs. Being 0317 gave me a lot of job opportunities in the early GWOT.
Anyways, we would often deploy in joint efforts with the Green Beret ODAs and almost always it was the tertiary POGs that were the most gung ho assholes. They’d always let you know how smart they were and how stupid the government was for letting all the fat purple hairs into the general ranks. This guy was the POGest of POGs as he was a glorified drone operator. I have doubts he ever left the FOB.
SOF/SF tier one units are filled with embezzling wife beaters who deal fent. I’ve rubbed shoulders with plenty of them. Plenty of them who rotate back to civ div end up robbing banks and selling their training services to militias. It’s the perfect setup for domestic terrorism.
But it’s not psyops that is turning these vets. Green Berets are basically military advisors for partisan forces. They don’t do psyops. What’s radicalizing these vets is the same shit that radicalized your grandparents and parents. Daily Wire, InfoWars and Joe Rogan.
Called it.
“Bigly”
It’s obviously too early to say the motive with 100% accuracy. But based on the timing of the event, and the Trump/Musk connection. It would seem like a Trump supporter who felt betrayed about the H1B visa thing.
Perhaps he was turning japanese as he shot himself.
I really think so.
Ha ha ha.
Maybe we could avoid racist bullshit?
Here, let me help you.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Japanese
Guess you’re one of today’s lucky 10,000!
Hmmm, that might be a cover story to keep the music selling. Everyone always thought it was about jerking off, so more in the racist category.
Yeah, I don’t buy it. The lyrics are pretty damn clear that he’s jerking off.
He’s talking about how he’s got her picture and he even wants to see inside her and then he’s turning Japanese.
It doesn’t take a PhD in English language poetry to get the symbolism.
Well TIL!
It even made it on a 2007 listicle, lol
https://www.cracked.com/article_15114_the-15-best-songs-that-are-totally-about-masturbation.html
Are we conflating race and ethnicity? Shoddy - if true.
A former Green Beret? Check his military records, the shit for brains must have failed the demolitions course.
Was probably mad that Musk turned out to be the actual president and not Trump.
All of the shooters and this guy have been trump fans. That’s the thing about patriotism. If you use it as rhetoric but attack the foundation, the rah rah patriots tend to want to blow your head off.
Gonna be a interesting 4 years
Normal isn’t returning after Trump’s next four years just like it didn’t return in the last four years.
We’re already in a new political reality in America. We might as well acknowledge that and start to engage with it.
Shit is going to get weird. Talk to your neighbors, see if you can find community support groups, that sort of thing will carry you through a lot more than just about anything else.
Also if you have the spare time and income, take a stop the bleed style class.
You’d think a green beret would be better at blowing shit up
I think it went exactly according to his plan.
He was likely making a statement and wanted fire and noise more than demolition and death (granted he also probably didn’t care if some people around it got hurt). It’s pathetic.
Probably, otherwise, why not drive it through the doors into the lobby?
Did he not succeed? Seemed to blow up pretty good.
Wasn’t flexible enough
Turns out if you want to use a cybertruck as an explosive weapon you need to put it on its side due to the way the walls of the vehicle contain the explosion.
Classic cybertruck-as-weapon noob mistake.
“This side toward enemy”. Built so strong it directs the blast out the open face of the bed.
I’m spitballing here, but it was just a bunch of fireworks used as the actual bomb, correct?
I’m sure if they did the fertilizer/ OKC thing that it would have blown up a lot better instead of just catching on fire, but the stupid thing also probably doesn’t have good enough cargo capacity to carry enough accelerant
What did they blow up? Their own vehicle and a piece of the road? Some random bystanders? A few thousands of damage to the hotel maybe? I don’t know their goals, but I don’t think that’s successful if they wanted anything more than attention seeking. (edit: which honestly seems like it could be the goal, why else have fireworks instead of fertilizer?)
Compare with the Oklahoma City bombing.
I think they tend to do more training and support of friendly local forces. May have been upset with the Afghan war exit, I don’t think it would have gone well for people he may have had contact with.
Something about all being domestic terrorists…
One thing I’m finding interesting: we’ve got the NO attack and this Trump/CT attack, happening in close temporal proximity and both hurting/killing innocents, but I’m only seeing the former labelled by the media as a “terrorist” attack. Could it, maybe, possibly, have something to do with the NO attacker potentially having an Islamic background? In contrast, a US military member, and a Trump supporter in particular, could never be awarded the “terrorist” badge by the press, “bomber” is the most he could hope to earn it seems.
What is “NO”?
I think they’re abbreviating New Orleans
thanks
Correct, it’s a common abbreviation used in the States. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
Not really… it’s usually NOLA, but anyhow…
I understand your sentiment, but I think it was the videos of him wanting to join ISIS and then ISIS flags in the truck with him.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/01/us/shamsud-din-jabbar-suspect-new-orleans-attack/index.html
Right, but I wasn’t claiming that he wasn’t seeking to spread terror for his cause, assuming that these are the facts. I’m remarking on the fact that the “big” Trump supporter and a highly trained Green Beret wasn’t immediately branded a terrorist by the media just like the NO guy was, despite committing an act that was, as far as I can tell, an act of terrorism. Is it only “terrorism” if you’re motivated by some kind of religious belief, and specifically, some kind of Islamic group’s belief?
More likely but not mandatory. They recently took their masks off and revealed it’s really about fucking with the money.
No, it’s because these Tesla vehicles are so shitty, no one can be truly 100% sure if it was intentional, or the battery just ignited some fireworks in the backseat of some idiot’s truck.
We have known for 23 hours that it was definitely not a battery fire. Everyone who knew anything about battery fires knew it wasn’t a battery fire from the very first videos
Have you been asleep for a couple of days?
Not every media outlet is as timely with getting the latest version of events out. I’m not sitting glued to my screen following this story live, like you are. My bad.
I get notifications for popular news developments, also I might be in a better timezone than you for hearing need from America quickly
The media did at least have the common decency to wait until they found out the New Orleans attacker was brown before branding him a terrorist.
Got to be careful these days with so many far right lunatics on the loose.
And none of the current Trump supporters will believe that he was Trump supporter or that he had planned this attack. They will instead believe that he was murdered by the deep state.
trump is literally about to be president of the most powerful country in the world with a Red SCOTUS & Congress. Yet, if anything bad happens, MAGA will say it’s the deep state.
Funny thing is, they’d be right but not realize that Trump is a part of it rather than the solution to it.
Trump cannot fail, he can only be failed.
Pretty much. Trump could kill an innocent on the streets in the middle of the day, and his supporters would theorize that he took down terrorist.
No one supports Trump for logical reasons. He’s the emotional choice.
When you get emotionally involved, crazy is a small step away
Also pretty easy to be betrayed by Trump: he claims to hold every possible stance on every issue. Then, he acts on only one person’s benefit: Trump.
One of the Trump stories I re-post all the time is how he had a lottery where the top prize was dinner with him at the White House. They ran the lottery for months and there was never a single winner.
I once got a reply from a MAGoo saying that this was no different than when another pol sends an email asking you personally to contribute.
In other words, what’s left when a leopard eats the face off of another leopard.
Say what you will about the right wing lunatics, they are at least actively trying to take down the establishment. We leftist draw signs and bitch online 😑 me included
Speak for yourself. If you’re doing nothing, that’s on you.
Look at Palestine Action in the UK, who have written off weapons factories. That’s doing far more to take down ‘the establishment’ than a poorly-executed suicide bombing. Look at environmentalists sabotaging coal infrastructure, or even Cop City actions. Look at the unions sabotaging the police in my own city.
At least you don’t get downvoted for saying it anymore, more progress!
I don’t understand how 7 people got injured. I saw the video, there was no one nearby and the hotel windows didn’t break.
Maybe toxic fumes
Toxic masculinity fumes
Maybe a Musketeer their feelings got hurt because he loves the Cybertruck and Trump now he’s scared the communists are attacking while they eat the cats and the dogs and dur turkejurs.
Additionally there was a picture of people claiming that they were by the doors inside the trump hotel. No proof obviously, just another element.
Very loud sounds in such an enclosed space (roof) can cause serious hearing damage at a decent distance.
