the amount of hate crimes we see in the US will drastically rise, especially among people who don’t “look” or “sound” American, especially indigenous people. ignorance is now intelligence.
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Papers, please.
Unfortunately, that was decided by SCOTUS a while ago in Terry v. Ohio.
Got a real NKVD going on here. A real “people’s police.”
As of 2023, there were over 42 million Spanish speakers in America.
I used to live in South Gate, a neighborhood in L.A. We were the only family in the neighborhood that didn’t speak Spanish. Even the local pizza places didn’t understand us well enough to order from. We didn’t complain, we were the white people who chose to move there and we were fine with it. But we’re talking about a neighborhood full of homeowners, not undocumented immigrants. Some of them were in the U.S. for generations.
And then there’s Florida:
First settled by the Spanish in the 16th century, 19% of Floridians now speak Spanish, which is the most widely taught second language. In Miami, 67% of residents spoke Spanish as their first language in 2000.
In addition, there are several other major cities in Florida with a sizable percentage of the population able to speak Spanish, most notably Tampa (18%) and Orlando (16.6%).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language_in_the_United_States#Florida
The U.S. has no official language. Spanish is one of many spoken in the U.S. A large proportion of the U.S. used to be Mexico. Of course we have a ton of people here who speak Spanish.
But, you know, “they all look and sound alike.”
Come to Miami. Any place you go can speak to you in Spanish… You don’t have to be in Hialeah or South Miami. I’m not fluent, but I get by, I will make it a point to use Spanish as much as possible from now on.
And even if they have an official language what then?
Nothing really changes
The U.S. has no official language
I’m sure that bill is just around the corner
Almost certainly. They’ve been wanting it for years now.
Time to learn Spanish.
Hopefully, we start seeing civil rights lawsuits for the usual – 4th and probably 5th Amendment violations. You know, the classics.
Then it makes it’s way to the supreme court and they give it their stamp of approval.
La Migra!
This is what Trump wants.
If you’re an American citizen in a red state, that looks visibly Mexican/South American and speaks fluent Spanish, you should lean into this! Go put on a serape, a sombrero, some chanclas and sell tamales or tortillas in front of the local mall right now while singing “Feliz navidad” - just be the full, lead-huffing boomer racist fantasy caricature. Get arrested and then get yourself a FAT settlement for civil rights violations… while we still have courts and judges who don’t have spray tan stains on their white collared robes.
while we still have courts and judges who don’t have spray tan stains on their white collared robes.
About that. They’re expanding Gitmo.
Omg, please make this a thing.
This is a terrible idea.
Cops are completely immune and there is little to no chance the courts would uphold any civil rights violations under Dictator Trump
Criminally they’re shielded by qualified immunity for a lot of things, civilly there’s more leeway there and taxpayers to be fleeced.
Sure, the cop is shielded, and will not pay a penny. The taxpayers on the other hand…
I’m sorry but this has some “what are you going to do? 🔪 me?!” energy…
Some folks had better start figuring out that “ridicule” and “bureaucracy” will not phase jack-👢 rounding people up… or we are all in deeper 💩 than you can imagine.
The more useful response is the one the Black Panthers did via 💪’d patrols.
30 folks capable of physically intimidating those who would snatch families to put in Gitmo standing in the way and saying “make us” is the only thing that will keep 🚫-Cs from taking people.
The question is - will they call a bluff or back down?
You think everyone being deported is gonna get due process?
I don’t actually. Read the last sentence. Try to start from a place of unity instead of division in your replies, friend.
just be the full, lead-huffing boomer racist fantasy caricature.
They love their racist caricatures though. You know: to point to and reinforce prejudices. Hell, that strategy is more likely to land a position with the GOP than detained.
“Fat settlement” is spelled a little differently in reality:
Mark Lyttle, an American citizen with mental disabilities who was wrongfully detained and deported to Mexico and forced to live on the streets and in prisons for months, settled his case for $175,000 against the federal government.
That’s more than my yearly salary though so… 🤷🏽♀️ No, but that’s absolutely horrendous what he went through.
I mean cops being defunded by thousands of US citizens wrongfully detained and deported doesn’t sound so bad
Guilty until proven innocent, unfortunately.
Literally. Having to show your fucking birth certificate to prove you are a citizen?
I suppose next they will demand the “long form” birth certificate like they did with Obama. And then they will show it and it won’t matter anyway.
I suppose next they will demand the “long form” birth certificate like they did with Obama. And then they will show it and it won’t matter anyway.
So, no different than the first time?
I’m getting a passport card ASAP. I don’t look Mexican or south American, but I have a Latin surname- And on more than one occasion Latinos have referred to me and to my wife (who also has a Latin surname) as “one of us”- which frankly pleased me. So I’m not taking any chances of some ICE pig deciding to make his quota at our expense.
I wouldn’t say don’t do it, because you never know, but all it takes is for an asshole cop to “lose” your ID and you’re still fucked. That is one of my big worries and how I think a lot of citizens will end up “detained,” if not just deported.
People will have to show their parents’ birth certificate too, with his attempts to end birthright citizenship.
Not a bug, but a feature of the Republiqon agenda.
This is possibly not a real thing that happened.
Of all the news agencies I looked into that tried to verify this story, they all came up empty handed. Even snipes did a dive in on it and found nothing
So yeah look at all the comments posted here jumping to conclusions.
Yes, let’s give the fascist the benefit of the doubt… It’s the least we can do for them
Benefit of the doubt would be to say it absolutely didn’t happen since proof doesn’t exist now. I didn’t say that.
It’s things like this that make it very difficult for me to tell my right wing shit head friends that spreading misinformation is exclusive to right wing shit heads. There are absolutely left wing shit heads who will spread any unsupported allegation that supports their own bias with no regard for integrity at all.
So thanks for having the integrity that others willfully lack, even if you only get to a few. You are a force for good in a kiddy pool of pee.
Thank you.
I like the idea of Snopes being called “Snipes” in an parallel universe. It gives it an air of vigilante je ne sais quoi and it makes me giddy.
Hmm not to discredit this, but how does that work, being detained and having to produce a birth certificate … does one normally daily carry a birth certificate next to ones ID?
And if you’re detained without a a birth certificate while on vacation across the country?
Only ID on you? Go to prison?
No ID nor birth certificate and you’ll either get shot or deported?
What if you speak something else than Spanish or English amongst yourselves?
How long 'till the Trump administration mandates a form of ID on ones hand, arm, or forehead?
Lol. The religious nutjobs will really love it when he gives us a choice of the taking the mark (of the beast) or face deportation.
It would be awesome though if we were able to deport all the religious nut jobs. Though not for the places these crazies would be deported to.
Put them on an Ark - wooden, overloaded, cast adrift in the type of weather that would cause massive flooding, if you catch my drift. Of course, gathering two of each animal would be cruel, so we’ll skip those.
If you don’t carry your federal ID with you at all times, there is no way to determine your US citizenship. Also, there is no federal ID. And many states issue drivers licenses to undocumented immigrants to avoid issues with unlicensed and uninsured motorists.
Someone can bring it, fax it, send a picture, carry a picture? Carrying it seems like a huge risk of accidental loss.
Do you think every US born citizen is going to suddenly carry around a photocopy of their birth certificate everytime they leave their house?
No, that’s why I didn’t list it. I’m suggesting I don’t doubt the veracity of the article because it’s just impossible to have access to a birth certificate. That is a simplification of the opinion of the guy I replied to.
immigrants are meant to carry their green card on them at all times. i keep mine with my driving license.
i also keep an album of photographs of my ID on my phone
sure but these were us citizens. i am a citizen. i woild never carry my birth certificate around. what if i lose my wallet? identity theft??
I understand, I was saying that’s why they were asked for papers, suspected of being illegal immigrants, not saying they should’ve had to follow this bullshit
Honest question and genuinely not suggesting anything, but, Isn’t this what the second amendment is for?
How would this family getting in a shootout with the cops have helped them?
The 2nd amendment was designed for a different time. As you say, guns won’t protect anyone from the governments tyranny anymore. War has escalated the instruments it uses over the last 300 years.
Guns are not a solution, and never were.
guns won’t protect anyone from the governments tyranny anymore
Probably not. I’m mostly looking into buying a gun to protect myself from the overwhelming number of braindead/racist/Nazi Americans and all the desperate people Republican leadership will produce who start committing crimes due to their desperation.
There is a difference between second amendment culture and your second amendment rights.
2A culture is pretty much MAGA: “Respect my authority or I won’t respect your right to exist.” As a former conservative who owns guns, this line of thinking is very pervasive through gun owning circles. But you need to remember that they will fully support laws that bar the other people from owning guns like the Black Panthers.
Bare in mind that the Constitution is just a piece of paper. It only has power when the government and the will of the people give it power. You can assume for at least the next four years, the Constitution will be seen as “rules that allow me to stay in power but don’t protect you from me”.
Bare in mind that the Constitution is just a piece of paper. It only has power when the government and the will of the people give it power.
There’s a scene from The West Wing that really impressed upon me the great challenge of holding even the seemingly most stable democracies together. Toby Ziegler was working with representatives of a newly forming government and a constitutional scholar played by Christopher Lloyd to craft a constitution. Toby takes issue with the amount of power they are considering vesting in their executive branch, preferring instead a parliamentary system. Christopher Lloyd’s character responds to him with almost this exact point, telling him that their work just then was to instill a democratic spirit in those leaders and through them the broader populace of their country.
the 2A lunatics are the ones who want the tyranny
Technically, yes. But I strongly recommend never pointing a gun at a law enforcement officer unless there are significantly more of you than there are of them.
Or perhaps if you’re 300 yards away with a magnified optic, just for example.
