Summary
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in a private meeting inadvertently broadcast via a hot mic, warned that Donald Trump is seriously considering annexing Canada to secure its critical mineral resources.
Speaking to business and labor leaders, Trudeau claimed Trump’s administration is keenly aware of Canada’s resource wealth and sees annexation as a means to control it.
The comments, cut off after staff realized they were audible, underscore growing economic and political tensions.
He also stressed the need to diversify trade, noting, “Geography means we’re always going to both benefit and be challenged by trade with the United States.”
Trump is using Putins playbook. Constantly threaten to annex your neighbors. Neighbors take those threats seriously and start to build up a standing army at the border. Convince populous that the neighbors are threatening the nation and are preparing for an invasion. Yada yada yada. Start a “special military op“ and invade neighbor.
I mean Trump has literally forced both Canada and Mexico to move a standing army in the thousands to the borders now, so I see he is not wasting time with this casus belli.
Mexico already had 10k troops on the border.
Putins playbook wasn’t exactly that.
he already had control of Ukraine, the problem was his capos were idiots, pissed off the people. and the people kicked out his capo with torches and pitchforks.
he then declared all future ukrainian governments illigetimate. and his actions have been based on a vague idea of “It all used to be one country 300 years ago because of imperialism, and the current government is not legitimate”
That argument doesn’t work with Canada and the US. Yes, the US tried multiple times to take British North America, but failed.
Effectively, America already does control Canada through influence and assertion. but Canada is still a sovereign country. Smooth brained fascist and imperialist Chuds, just want America to look bigger on a map. they think that if there is ever a war with China, they’ll need Unfettered access to all materials in grasp. (which doesnt make sense based on their tariffs against taiwan, those tariffs imply they’re going to let China take taiwan, therfore no war with China)
at the end of the day, its dumb chuds who treat world politics and the hundreds of millions of peoples lives affected by it, like its a game. and they’re angry with canada because america has believed for decades that they’re in a culture war, and canadians are the opposition because they’re on average, much more liberal than american liberals.
Can Americans just own their own dictator and expanding philosophy, please? Americans have been invading nonstop since they started to exist, Putin wasn’t even a spermatozoid. If there is an encyclopedia on this, it is written in English.
He is Putin’s pawn
Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.
Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.
at least they recognize the gravity of this insanity.
USA here. I believe (but I dont know for sure) that any “hot” attempt on Canada will bring forth blood on american streets.
just hang in there and defend yourselves by any means you can while we try to get hands on this beast and strangle it.
I am sorry.
edit: clarity
Doubt there will be anything “hot”; it’ll be threats of violence, being met with rational, thoughtful responses that will aim to save as many lives as possible.
I hope you are right. at this moment in time I put nothing past the cabal and the “official acts” empowered degenerative orange sack in the wh.
just 8 short years ago, could you have seriously contemplated that we would be engaged in this way on this thread?
One state with 200 representatives and 1/3rd of the electoral votes… smart.
If this is true, then another non-Putin style election is off the table.
The Canadians and Canadiens should start thinking about their military purchases. Do you rely on a neighbor who is constantly threatening you with a trade war and annexation? Nope. The Orange Fuck-up will end up destroying the US MIC export business and their will be some pissed off wealthy people with deep connections.
I mean, if USA invades, there’s nothing we can do.
Ya know, even with all the apt comparisons to Hitler and Putin, one thing I didn’t have on my bingo card was him actually trying to expand US territory by invading and annexing other countries. I thought that was one big difference.
Everything else I could imagine is now in progress: Disregard/end of the Constitution and rule of law–check. Dismantling of democracy into an authoritarian dictatorship–check. Mass deportations and concentration camps–check. Full-on implementation of Project 2025–check. Blatant corruption, lawlessness and self-enrichment for trump family and oligarchs–check. Implementation of Christian Nationalist policies–check. Dismantling of federal agencies and beneficial aid programs–check (so far DOJ/FBI, USAID, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Dept of Education).
As yet unchecked, but only a matter of time (it’s only been 3 weeks!): dismantling of additional agencies and programs: SNAP, medicaid first, then social security, medicare, all the stuff they hate. Use of military against civilians, requirement to carry ID papers with proof of citizenship, sham elections, and more!
Unanticipated by me: Musk given free reign to dismantle whatever parts of the US government he feels like, and now invasion and annexation of other countries and territories!?! In the sights: Panama Canal zone, Greenland, Canada, and Gaza. Could this really happen?
Could this really happen?
No. Just like most of his agenda so far, he’s dead serious and wants to do it, but he keeps finding out he’s far too inept to pull it off.
Hitler was evil AF, but he was also smart and charismatic, and he knew how to fill a government with supervillains.
Maximum effort, trump might start amassing some military on the border. When that happens watch the other news for shit they’re trying to sneak by.
I hope you’re right. I fear you’re not.
He couldn’t even shut down USA aid. All he needed to do was have a semi-intelligent person walk into there and see what the consequences would be for shutting it down. He’s consistently just playing checkers on a chess board and having to roll every move back.
He’s going to piss a lot more people off and make a lot more problems but he does not have the competency in himself or his team to pull off an operation like that against an actual trained country.
Don’t get me wrong, he will eventually shut a bunch of very important shit down probably inadvertently.
Maybe we’ll lose a third of the population to an illness or something on his watch.
I’m a bit more worried overall that he’s now going to permanently be in power than anything. I don’t think the US has it in them too kick him to the curb, and I’m definitely not going to count on the military backing us in a coup.
But he did shut it down. The office was cordoned off, the flag and signage removed, administrative employees placed on leave and overseas employees ordered to return home. Leaving massive amounts of food and medicine to spoil on ships.
Yes, a judge has ordered a “pause” on the shutdown until a hearing takes place, but we haven’t seen them go back to work so far, since it’s Friday–we’ll see what happens Monday. Point is he’s going ahead and doing illegal things and daring someone to stop him. My concern is whether they’ll ignore court orders. Because it’s not like there’s a way to enforce them other than he chooses to comply.
Do the military pledge their loyalty to the country or to the POTUS?
What’s super worry of who they pledge their loyalty to and who they actually keep it to when the chips are down.
I pledge allegiance to the commander-in-Chief: Good now go take all of your neighbors and family and ship them off to internment camps where we certainly won’t do genocidal things. Then go over in front of the state house and shoot all those protesters.
BTW he’s officially ordered Guantanamo to be expanded from holding a few hundred prisoners to 30,000.
An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath: “I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”
There’s just one problem. Who will keep and who will break their oath? Obviously many have already broken it. If they think they’re keeping it, who will they consider to be the “domestic enemies”?
He had no idea that 2 billion in farm subsidies came from it. He’s going to have to find some way to twist that to make it work.
Dude it’s been all of two weeks. I wouldn’t say he’s failed at any of these things yet, only delayed in some cases.
People are so desperate to pretend this isn’t happening… Meanwhile, our country is being dismantled in front of our eyes.
Right now, he’s shooting in a bag and handing it around if that doesn’t cause massive protests in the general public to kick his ass out then he Will probably eventually find a truffle.
The country was dismantled in his last term when the Supreme Court was turned into a Nazi sock puppet.
There’s no checks and balances yet we’re not going to get any better until all those fuckers go.
knew how to fill a government with supervillains
Isn’t that what’s happening right now?
I’m not sure that you could say any of those people are super anything
Also one thing Hitler and his Nazi friends have over the Business v2.0 plotters: genuine combat experience. They may be shitty people, but they also got blooded. They were willing to kill and be killed.
A fair chunk of the military minorities that Trump has alienated are veterans, and more importantly, know they will die if he got his way. On the other paw, we got Proud Boys, ICE, and the Xitler Youth. That bunch, as a general rule, are cosplayers. I suspect this what it would look like if they went up against minority soldiers:
It might be alienating veterans, But he hasn’t yet done anything to alienate the act of military and large swaths of the active military, read most, are from impoverished deep red areas
I’m an outsider.
Do you think the military will comply with an order to invade Canada? Usually the higher ups are pretty sane people (in the West).
Legally. Trump is Commander in Chief. the readers digest version of most people’s understandings is they’re supposed to follow his orders to the letter.
practically. who fucking knows. I would predict military bases start shooting at themselves as factions fight for dominance in towns, cities, bases, and states. it would effectively be a civil war. there would absolutely be a coup attempt by a faction of the military.
The amount of chaos this decision would cause would be on the same scale as World War III officially breaking out. America would be in total chaos while it tries to launch an invasion of Canada, (Whether it be the Little green men method of just rolling troops in and the defenders choose not to shoot at them. or it be the Feb 2022 method where Canada formally declares itself to be in a war state and the state attempts to resist, IE a shooting war then insurgenct)
this would absolutely cause a civil war in the states, like I said, but Im not even gonna attempt to theorize how it would turn out. the only thing I know is the world would be in flames.
The higher priority, according to the oath, is to protect the US Constitution from foreign and domestic enemies. Yes, domestic too.
Member when this was just a south park joke?
They’ll just make up some “logistical difficulties” as an excuse to refuse the order.
Even if the higher ups somehow agree (which would be insane), the actual troops are the ground are 50% POC or minorities. I can’t imagine them going through this hatred by the whitehouse and still continuing to follow orders. There will be a break in chain of command at some point.
Also peep the military subreddit on Reddit they are talking about breaking chain a lot, whether they will it’s still to be tested but it’s definitely indication of where things lie.
Australians are pissed. We have been right with the yanks in “America 1st” for decades and we get looked over again
They know that China will defend us… and then claim Australia as red territory.
I would kill and die in a war with Americans if they tried to force us into becoming Americans. I would rather die and take as many of you with me as possible than become an american
And as an american I applaud you for it. This is the dumbest timeline.
No you wouldn’t.
Guarantee I’d be sabotaging shit on this side to help you guys win. Every sensible American loves our Canadian neighbors and respects their sovereignty.
make no mistake, that line gets crossed. its over for everyone.
The US will enter a civil war. And it probably wont end for decades Canada will be destroyed. Gobbled up in the same civil war south. NATO will cease to exist. Europe will be in peices. The war with Russia will expand, many of europes countries will refuse to honor treaties and end up fighting each other until some vague lines are drawn between Russia and the resistance.
I’m American and I’d be 100% on your side, there is every reason to not be in the US, you don’t deserve our fate.
I like your fighting spirit. I look forward to calling you my countryman.
How would that even work. It’s an an entire country made up of provinces. We have our own provincial governments. Canada is fucking huge. How would they enter? The border spans the whole width of the continent. Do they even have a big enough military to even do that?
None of this even makes sense, it sounds like the biggest dumbest joke any president has ever came up with, besides building a wall along the opposite border, which may have started but never even finished, or turned out way too expensice to be realistic or something like that, what ever the fuck happened.
For Canada’s population they are a remarkable country, but even so, for Canada to win a war they don’t need to fight, they only need to walk backwards and wait for winter.
Yep, I would bear arms against any who cross that border with ill intentions. They step foot across, and they’re pulling a stump back.
Minnesota will likely join you. And if you don’t know our state history, don’t fuck with Minnesota.
We fucking love Minnesota. You guys are awesome.
Can we get a hint?
Well, starting with the civil war Hancock would, if I remember correctly, go on to credit MN for essentially winning the battle that turned the war. Here’s another good write up.
They lost 82 percent of the fighting force in a day. Biggest lose for a unit in American history.
We can start going more modern from there, however, in terms of straight state pride, fuck the slaveowners. Fuck unjust governments. That battle is everything a Minnesotan needs to know when it comes to fighting for what’s right.
We also took a confederate battle flag that day(Virginia’s?) and every couple years or so they ask for it back and get told to pound sand. The full embodiment of being Minnesotan
I’d say you guys are already honorary Canadians, but I’m told I shouldn’t fuck with Minnesota, so I’ll just do a friendly nod as I hold the door and wish you a nice day neighbour and please give my best to yours and if your kids are up for it my kids wanted to do that playdate, so would pizza be ok, let us know if there are any allergies we should know about.
Eh, with current events, most of us would take that title with open arms. However, title only, our work of undermining the current administration is just getting started. Most of us would rather be Canadian, but think about the chaos we will sew from the inside out.
Anyway, sounds great, only allergies are fascists, thanks.
As as US citizens here i will join your side
As a Wisconsinite, I will cheerfully defend Canadian sovereignty. Come for us, you fascist fucks.
Yeah I was gonna say let me cross over real quick. I’m American, so I’ll bring my own guns as long as you can provide some healthcare.
Violence in exchange for healthcare is celebrated by a lot of people.
The less of a joke it is, the more of a joke he is
Our dedicated boys keep the peace in newly annexed Canada
Canada should get nukes ASAP.
Two things to remember about that guy:
1)Trump is stupid
2)Trump is the president
Whatever we do, we all must work around those two things. Point 2 implies that he is not permanent, but who knows what the future might hold.
One big worry I have is about the fate of the Project 2025 authors. Elon Musk and Trump could easily become the fall guys for this whole fiasco, allowing Yarvin’s Cabal to escape justice. ALL of the Business v2.0 plotters need to be put on trial and executed.
Whooooooooooops!
I accidentally got caught on a hot mic saying what every Canadian is thinking in the back of their minds. Myyyyyy baaaaaaad.
Trudeau
Oh good, I’m not the only one that caught that.
This feels like an intentional “oopsie”
I don’t think he’s necessarily wrong, and I still think that we need to vote with that in mind but…….
This is an intentional “oopsie”
Leaks and hot mics are the best official channels today, lol.
CBC source for the audio in question:
Everything is still within timeframe for the Fallout timeline to emerge.
We don’t have any nuclear weapons.
