Summary

Michelle King, the top Social Security official, resigned after refusing Elon Musk’s request for sensitive records, including Social Security numbers and bank data.

Trump appointed Leland Dudek as acting commissioner and nominated Frank Bisignano for the role.

Nancy Altman of Social Security Works condemned DOGE’s request, warning, “I don’t think you can overstate how serious this breach is.”

DOGE’s similar attempts at the IRS and Treasury have sparked legal challenges over privacy concerns.

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    STOP GETTING OUT OF THE WAY

    Stay at your post for fuck’s sake. Make them fight you. Drag it out, make it slow and expensive, make them look bad.

    Don’t just offer them your chair and the keys to the kingdom and tell them here let your stooge take over, have fun

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      She’s likely worried about repercussions, about her family. I wouldn’t doubt that she already received threats.

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        There are always very good reasons for pulling up stakes in the current climate but we can and should put social pressure on these people until they share those good reasons. And maybe they can’t right now but don’t let them off the hook because you can imagine a reasonable scenario.

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        Well letting these fools keep doing whatever they want will put her family in much bigger trouble in the long term. Pathetic

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        I 100% believe that’s what’s happening, and is part of the reason he’s going after everybody’s most personal details first. He wants blackmail material, for anybody who doesn’t accept his buyouts.

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        Imo if that’s all it takes to make you quit you shouldn’t have had the position in the first place.

        Edit: I’d love to hear people’s thoughts on this. How is this not seen as pure cowardice? Is this not purely caving in to authoritative practice?

        Protecting yourself at everyone else’s expense is exactly what fascists want. They want you so terrified of consequence that you just give up entirely. Fuck that. And fuck everyone who bends the knee or caves in to threats.

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            But it’s not just on my behalf? It’s on theirs and literally everyone else’s behalf.

            They’re willingly getting out of the way to protect their own. Disregarding everyone who will be harmed by doing so.

            That should be seen and treated as cowardice.

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              So why haven’t you just gone to a gun show, bought a couple AR 15’s and stormed Elon’s play house?.

              This whole authoritarian movement, globally is AstroTurfed and paid for by Big Tech. Meta, Google, Muskrat, Bezos. They funded all of them because they intend to start world war 3, through social engineering. Buy up the ashes and enslave you. You’ll rent your home from them, work in their companies and the people they seem non-productive, will be hooked up to Musk’s Neuralink attached to Starlink. With a generative AI to Virtualize their lives, as a humane alternative to genocide.

              As Curtis Yarvin (Massive Republican donor to the Trump campaign and mentor to JD Vance) put it. That’s why Meta and Apple kept throwing Money into VR despite no mass adoption. Meta just came out with their own brain chip, for “Thought to Text.” They want access to your thoughts. They have been collecting obscene amounts of data on every human being on Earth for the past 25 years. Profiling and voice printing all of us.

              Now with AI, embedded in all their new devices, browsers and “social media.” They don’t need to think about end to end encryption, because they can just ask what you did, or said, or thought today. The I phone 16 tracks your eye movements. Learns about you, manages all your personal information. This is the SS on steroids, all they have to do is say Hey Gemini, Apple Intelligence, Grok, Leo, etc. Bring me a list of every user who has spoken out in dissent of our leadership." They bought their way to this point. Like it’s Globo Tech/ Skynet bullshit.

              Apple on its own is worth over 3 trillion dollars. This was always the game, ever since republicans dismantled the New Deal. Because of the value we put on money, it gives them power. So, there’ll never be equity, there’ll never be a universal basic income. There’ll never be restraints on the purchasing power of corporations, because they buy the outcome of every vote they want to. New housing won’t happen, private equity will never be kicked out.

              They’ll never be held accountable for the crimes they commit because they buy their way out of it. Even if you found a judge who couldn’t be bought, or intimidated, or scared away by threats to their loved ones. They have access to every single thing you’ve ever logged online. Profiles of everything you’ve ever bought, ever transaction offline linked to the card numbers you use. Your political affiliation, every dirty little secret and cherished family memory.

              Facial recognition software in android powered checkouts, taking copies of your grocery list and how much you paid. Every camera now runs Android through WiFi just sending binary data and machine code to JQ to be compiled later. Every trip, every automatic backup every binary ripped from your phone, laptop, smartwatch. Your phone’s microphone is never off. Your device’s IMEI constantly sends location data to google.suple.com.

              It’s called Technocracy. They’re so drunk on power they aim to literally enslave humanity in a dystopia they control and then strip mine out entire planet for resources, commit ecocide and then when everything is destroyed and polluted beyond recognition. They’re going to piss off and terraform mars. They have ALL spoken openly about this for years. It’s an open secret in silicon valley. Btw the founder of the Technocratic Movement, is Musk’s grandfather.

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      It’s seriously upsetting to see how many in leadership want to save their bacon instead of doing what’s right.

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          This is what makes the people who do stand up, like Vindman, heroes. Most people won’t. And the ones who do are generally made examples of.

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    Let’s please stop pronouncing this piece of shit entity doge as “dozh” (doʒ), it’s so ridiculous and we make fools of ourselves by parroting what we’re told. We should deliberately “mispronounce” it, say something like dogie or dog-ee, I dunno–I’m sure you all can come up with something better.

    Point is, I bet Musk gets a hard-on every time he hears reporters or democrats fall in line and repeat this ridiculous shit the way he likes it. "yes master dozh, dozh, tell me more about dozh master. 🤮 Disgusting. It’s humiliating to cater to him like this. Fuck saying “dozh” like you’re Musk’s little bitch and stop running to serve to his every oligarchical whim like the lowly serfs he thinks of us as.

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      No, it’s far more important to step aside.
      Remember there are always 2 parties involved in any bullying and it’s on the victim to know when to step away, roll over, and let the bully do whatever they want cause otherwise it causes a scene.

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    It’s too bad all these brave lemmings didn’t work their way up to high positions in the government. They would have fought the good fight but instead are relegated to talking big on the internet.

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      They were so close to being heroes. The same people, I assume, who could never join the military because they would punch out the drill instructor.

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      Yeah it’s a shame must of us weren’t born before WW2 ended or we might have been able to have a seat at the table.

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        You think most of the leadership in federal agencies are over 80 years old?

        Michelle King has got to be in her mid-50s tops.

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          Hyperbole but the average age of the senate is 64 years old.

          The baby boomer and silent generation holds 294 seats in the US congress at about 55% of the Congress. The only reason the average is low is because of the bulk of 40 year old Republicans and the oldest members finally dying off. GEN X has been a larger swath of seats than they would care to admit.

          While millennials make up 25% of the US population they just recently made up only 5% of congress.

          The youngest members of the boomer generation where born just as Hawaii became the 50th state. Nearly half of Congress can remember as a kid when there was only 48 states.

          The point is that people in power are incredibly out of touch with modern existence and have been disproportionately protecting their positions and keeping younger generations from coming in. Yes they might not literally all be as old as WW2 but some of them literally are.

          To insinuate that younger generations have not grabbed for higher positions is disingenuous to the reality of the world.

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            Source, please. I can’t find a year of birth except for some sites that don’t look particularly trustworthy, and they are putting her at 52 or 53.

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    Why resign? Keep refusing the order. You can’t keep blocking it if you don’t work there anymore. They will eventually fire you, but that will slow things down.

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      Or they go right over their head because Trump respects nothing of procedure that doesn’t benefit him, they slow down nothing, and now they’re also complicit

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      It was probably a “you resign now after you tell me no, or we get you fired in an hour” or something along those lines.

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        I’m gonna have to keep saying this, but if you know you’re hours away from being fired, you can quit and make the first statement on the matter. That way, you control the narrative. If they got fired, they’d just be another static.

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    So, either 90% of our admin is in on the coup and just doing little grand standing actions like “refusing DOGE”, or they refused and the Russians found out about their families and sent a strongly worded letter saying it’d be a shame if something happened to their family.

    I can see option two being the more likely case, but the cynic in me is saying these people are all in on it and there will be no one but the peasants to fight for their rights.

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    This already has me very worried since I get SSD benefits along with Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP due to a mental health impairment, and someone really needs to step the fuck up and get the DOGE NAZIS the fuck out of there.

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    Why, why do they keep stepping down IT MAKES IT SO MUCH FUCKING EASIER FOR THEM. This is such bullshit and spineless behavior. They can’t protect the American people if they FUCKING RESIGN. Like how does this in any way help us.

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      It can be that they can’t stop something, but their position makes them responsible, so all they can do is step down and refuse to be implicated. Or they are ordered to do a thing and can’t refuse to do it, so they step down. Maybe it then turns out no one can do the thing due a few days while the person is replaced.

      We never get the nuance of these resignations unless they make their resignation letters public (and even then…). Could even be they have 30 years of service or whatever and would like to step down with some benefits for their families before they get fired and lose everything. Yeah it would be nice if they fought, but I can’t begrudge a bureaucrat putting their family first in a losing fight.

      So I tend to give them the benefit of doubt. In the end, they aren’t doing the easiest thing, which would just be to cooperate.

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        There’s also a lot of situations where there could be real legal implications via arcane administrative laws if they decide to sick the DOJ on them… We have seen already with Adams thing that they have no intention of the DOJ being impartial.

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      They were probably already fired but given the option to call it a resignation for financial benefits/easier to get remployed elsewhere. If they refused it wouldn’t have made any difference I imagine.

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    I used to play Battlefield 4 back in the day. If you abandoned your vehicle for any reason the enemy could come in and steal it for the enemy team. This means that instead of having 2vs2 tank fights, you might be able to force 3vs1 or even 4vs0 tank fights. There was an unwritten rule that if you are in a vehicle then you die in that vehicle to avoid that from happening. Your vehicle will not respawn if they are actively being used, even by the enemy. Today it feels like all the “pilots” are abandoning their “vehicles” while our “tickets” get drained.

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    Everyone complaining about this and calling them a coward: Trump and his crimes won’t respect the law now, what makes you think this bureaucrat can obstruct anything? Trump will absolutely go over the heads of anyone refusing his orders.

    Better to resign and not be complicit than sit by and let your name be anywhere near this shit.

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      People tried staying and being an “inside” ally during Trump’s first term. In the end, it just helped his administration maintain a veneer of competency.

      Leave. Let the institution fall. Collapse of the systems people rely on is the only way to gather overwhelming popular support to contain Trump’s destruction.

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    I had no idea how fragile the US was until trump retook office. Imagine if the Democrats did something like this? There would be outrage, riots, maybe even people storming the capitol. The police and law would get involved… But this time not a sole is stopping Elon

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      Hey man. They’re posting on social media that they’re sorry. You know. Thoughts and prayers! Must mean something cause they get lots of likes. Seems to be a small handful in each city that care enough to actually go outside and protest.

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        Honestly, I don’t think that the current administration’s tactics would work without social media. Social media allows people to feel the outrage and feel like they’re making an impact, all without doing a damned thing to actually stop the current admin. Social media allows you to post online and feel satisfied with the engagement it got, because “maybe someone else will step up because of my post.” But it doesn’t actually spur any action on the poster’s part.

        I’d argue that posting about it is the best case scenario for fascism, because as long as people are allowed to post they won’t be motivated to actually start fires.

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    I’m so mad! Here! Here’s everyone’s most important data! If you reveal it in a hacking attack, you better say sorry to every single American!

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    Great. Soon they will have teenagers directing all money into oligarch’s pockets while people are homeless, starving and committing crimes against other subjects, all under the rule of a stupid, mob boss dictator.