• Chozo@fedia.io
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    For its part, Tesla has been trying to boost its image with the help of President Trump.

    Yeah, that’s part of the problem, Elon.

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      Right? Who knew that making a product that half of the population wants to buy and then making your brand based around the exact half of the population that lives in contempt of this product instead was a bad idea?

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    @[email protected] “Fuck Elon” is becoming the punch buggy of this generation.

    Combine a toxic brand with a level of ridiculously poor Quality Control we haven’t seen from a US automaker since the Saturn brand, and you get a price point/distressd asset that PE will be looking at. They’ve already calculated the value of selling Tesla for parts and just waiting for the stock to hit a number to act. Elon is so over leveraged, there will be nothing he can do to stop it.

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    At this point I expect to see them abandoned on the side of the road with a “Just take it” sign over the engine

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    What happens if Tesla falls? America’s charging station infrastructure is owned by Tesla. Looks like the whole EV push has been a complete failure. What about the environment and global warming, seems like people really don’t care about any of that in comparison to settling political grievances. It is what it is.

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      @[email protected]

      @[email protected] Are you a Tesla owner who only charges at Telsa charging stations? Tesla doesn’t even own the majority of charging stations in the US. They only recently started allowing non-Teslas to use their chargers. Where did you think all the other EVs were charging?

      Tesla will be taken over by PE who will sell off the charging network. Once rebranded as ChargePoint or Electrify America, they will will no lobger be targeted by vandalism and arson. The cost of removing the toxic Tesla brand isn’t trivial, but the locations and infrastructure have value. They won’t just be turned off when there is profit to made.

      https://evadoption.com/ev-charging-stations-statistics/us-charging-network-rankings/

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      That’s the American way of doing things. Wild deregulation and dependency on billionaires, because freedom or some excuse.

      In Europe, the EU mandated years ago CCS2 for all cars, tesla included, so the whole continent’s (UK, CH, etc included) infrastructure is compatible with every car, just like gas stations. Tesla operates like 20% of the infrastructure so if they disappear it will be a minor nuisance, and only for the time other operators gobble up the locations. If power and permits are already in place, it’s a question of a few weeks to install the transformers and charging points.

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    Same people proudly claiming the market is self regulating shocked when the market responds to them being openly fascist cunts.

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    Soon it can be scrapped for steel and you could make money off buying them.

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    Honestly? Might not be a bad idea to consider buying a used Tesla after they tank in value.

    1. No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you’re not supporting the fascist prick. They made their money off the first buyer.

    2. It’s environmentally friendly to buy a used vehicle, rather than a new one, as you extend it’s life and reduce it’s carbon footprint

    3. Since everybody is abandoning them, they’re cheaper than other options.

    My only reservation is that I’d be driving around a Tesla still, so if I did something like this I’d have to de-brand the hell out of it somehow to make it appear as a generic “an car”.

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      One downside is that Teslas are uncomfortable. I liked them a lot circa 2016, the Model S used to be my favorite vehicle. They simply haven’t held a competitive advantage, or in the case of the 3/Y, are genuinely quite bad. I’d rather pay more for something better, and that was before the CEO became this.

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      No money goes to Elon in that exchange, so you’re not supporting the fascist prick.

      One could say the same about not selling your Tesla in the first place.

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      Your heart’s in the right place but this is bad advice.

      Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

      And the parts break way too often, even parts that shouldn’t break ever, like the door handles that only Tesla can replace. The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.

      It’d be a money pit after the warranty period runs out. You’re still going to be better off with a run of the mill beater car

      Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part

      Your point about buying used being better for the environment also applies to older gas powered cars too, which will be easier and cheaper to repair

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        Part of the win is electric vs gas too though. Use the electric until it’s gone and toasted then get a beater.

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        But if you do you’ll be able to experience the Passenger Kebab Mode™ firat hand when the battery ignites!

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        I’ve owned a Tesla and I’d say your wrong about pretty much everything here.

        The whole point of buying an EV is that it stops polluting after it’s been manufactured (ignoring tires) and specifically that you stop polluting your local environment, making it out like used gas powered cars are just as good as used EVs is disingenuous at best.

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        Teslas are still wickedly expensive to repair and there’s only the dealership who can do those repairs.

        Where are you getting that from? There are plenty of 3rd party shops that can and do service Teslas. They even made their repair manuals public and sell the OEM components online.

        The cost of that can apparently be over $1k. For a door handle.

        That’s a door handle on a $100k+ car.

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        Until Tesla allows other shops to do repairs, those swastikars will never be economical even if you ignore the Nazi part

        Everything on them can be fixed by a regular mechanic, and Tesla isn’t stopping it (at least not in Europe). People are getting 3rd party special shops to fix HV batteries and motors on old model S without any issues. Brakes, suspension, steering, LV electrical (windows, lights, handles etc.), AC can be fixed by anyone without issues. And aside from body parts and a few specialty components (their “octovalve” comes to mind), it’s mostly standard auto components that can be bought from 3rd party manufacturers without giving Tesla any money.

        Edit: a model 3/Y door handle is around $100, of course still expensive but also far below your $1000 example, and on par with an original handle for my old ass Peugeot 308.

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      No money goes to Elon directly, but it still increases the market price of Teslas. So someone else deciding between used and new might just buy new because it doesn’t cost much extra.

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    Ill give you $200 for the battery, the motor, and some chonky relays if you scrape the branding off.

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    I wonder if someone breaking it and collecting insurance money from it would end up being the preferred option over selling it.