Summary
A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn’t have to follow the judge’s oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn’t in writing.
Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing “national security concerns.”
Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”
‘You felt you could disregard it?’
Well, given that they disregarded it and are now standing before you arguing that they had the right to disregard it, I think it’s safe to say that yes, they felt they could disregard it. And given that the migrants were deported anyway, your orders were not only completely ignored, but were also being openly mocked on Twitter by Marco Rubio, and they will receive no punishment for doing so, I think it’s safe to say that they were right.
Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”
He’s about to find out that his written orders carry even less. Remember, the Supreme Court ruled that he can’t even be questioned about official acts, much less investigated. Trump could go on his Twitter knock-off tomorrow and tell this guy to go fuck himself with a chainsaw and there’s fuck-all this judge can do about it.
No, he can be questioned about official acts. The wording is that the judiciary decides what is an official act, so if they decide it is, he cannot be punished criminally for what is otherwise a criminal act. The Supreme Court did a bunch of power grabs for itself and effectively declared that Congress couldn’t do squat other than impeachment against the president and the only check on the president’s power was whether the judiciary agreed with him.
Now Trump’s attacking the judiciary and has made the chief justice have to make a statement that his challenges to his legitimacy will not stand, so I would expect to see a bunch of cases go against Trump just as a judiciary show of force, much like his citizenship emergency challenge where they told him to fuck off and they’d slow walk his case.
Trump could have ended democracy quite easily if he wasn’t in such a damn hurry to get shit done and snubbing all of the power brokers that he needs to implement his plans is forcing a bunch of needless shit. When the economy is fully in shambles in a few months and the ad spend slows down for media companies, I’d expect them to pounce on how much shit he fucked up. It’s wild seeing WSJ realizing the problem that’s coming down the pipeline and the Murdoch rag shitting on him in the editorials rather than WaPo.
If something… Unfortunate… Were to happen to Roberts, I guarantee that the rest of the justices would rule in Trump’s favor for the rest of his term with a wide-eyed “fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck” smile plastered on their faces the entire time
It was disregarded because it was a vocal demand when the criminals were already halfway to their destination. If we allowed a federal judge to say “wait, don’t do that!” and express vocally their outrage, to the POTUS every time they disagreed, there would be no point in having a person voted as President.
It was disregarded because it was a vocal demand when the criminals were already halfway to their destination. If we allowed a federal judge to say “wait, don’t do that!” and express vocally their outrage, to the POTUS every time they disagreed, there would be no point in having a person voted as President
You do realize this happens all the time, right? Death row inmates can be granted clemency literally while they’re strapped to the gurney. It’s literally a case of the judge, governor, POTUS, whoever saying “WAIT, DON’T DO THAT!”. And yes, this includes the judge verbally giving instructions and holding off the proceedings until a written order can be drafted.
There was nothing stopping them from turning that plane around.
Since when is a judge’s verbal order not legally binding?
The whole point of judiciary is to resolve damages and it’s actually really important that they can issue orders quickly to prevent “irreversible damages”, courts use injunctions all the time even before coming to any kind of decision in order to give time for due process to happen. Especially when there is possibility of harm coming to an individual.
This is kind of insane to witness unfold in real time. These fossils don’t understand that they’ve been stripped from their institutional powers. They are literally not able to understand what’s happening even if it’s totally transparent to anyone watching.
Oh brother…
They feel that they can ignore it because they can ignore it. Stop letting them!
How do they do that? Their enforcers work for Trump.
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The US Marshalls don’t, I thought.
*Marshals
You’re right, thank you.
US Marshals are under DoJ.
They can deputize citizens to carry out the orders too
Then if the deputies fail you start sheriffizing people.
Nah, you just start deputizing more effective people. Like ex special forces
Sheriffs are usually elected, not appointed. It’s one of the big reasons decriminalization is so difficult; No elected cop wants to look soft on crime, because their opponents can use it against them in smear campaigns during the next election.
Well considering Republicans control every branch of government, they’re assuming they can and will get away with it. Even if this goes up to SCOTUS, the conservative justices will let them do what they want. One of them will “dissent” though to try to make it seem like they don’t agree. They’re probably behind closed doors playing rock, paper, scissors to see who “dissents” each time a hot button topic gets up to them.
Also didn’t the Supreme Court just rule that you can’t charge the president for crimes made in their official capacity? He can just say it was in his official capacity to ignore the orders so tough titties.
That doesn’t mean his actions would stand, it just means he can’t be prosecuted for it.
If he fires someone and it’s ruled illegal, they get their job back or some very large settlement.
Deported people would be able to return etc.
The same laws that make him President, are the same law in which we allow it
I believe they thought they could ignore the order because they could ignore the order.
Chicken shit judge
Did he suffer any serious consequences, No, then why the fuck wouldn’t he disregard it and will continue to do so in the future. Why are people in power in this country either evil and inept or simply inept against the evil ones
Lay out the alternative for us.
Alternative to what?
Following through with the judicial processes laid out in the constitution
Are they doing that thought?, I see news about the constitution being subverted everyday but I don’t see any concrete actions being taken to punish those doing so, and stop it from happening, this country is headed towards a dictatorship and politics are writing strongly worded letters and holding protest placards up as if that does anything
The next step up from ignoring federal judges goes one of two ways. US marshals arrest the president or it plays out like Hans litten.
And if you put it in writing, it’ll be on the wrong letterhead.
Or you didn’t sign it.
Or you signed it with autopen.
way more than about Trump
legal precedents that uphold other legal precedents are being dismantled like they already were being done away with before Trump
more precedents that go away the more personal freedoms and civil liberties goes away
need a revolution
Oh brother… how horrible is your life? `
He shouldn’t be letting those attorneys leave the courtroom free men. Hold them in contempt and issue bench warrants for administration officials and anyone carrying out these illegal orders.
This is the only correct response, any other response means that the federal government does not in practice have checks and balances
It also forces Trump’s hand. Either publicly reveal, right now that he is an all-out dictator instead of slow-rolling it, or fold and lose any momentum he has.
If a violent revolution is needed to take him down, the sooner everyone knows about it, the better.
Yeah, slow nibbling at fascism is how the world got Hitler. Out the despot now.
I’m just shocked that so many of you are okay with a judge deciding that all those criminals should remain in the US…I mean, this is why ya’ll lost the elections…
You are really that gullible, huh?
As opposed to the Left? Because they’re not gullible at all, right? LOL
How do you know for sure that they’re criminals, just because they’re not American? None of them have even been charged with anything. Innocent until proven guilty.
You should be more concerned about the convicted rapist with 34 felonies who is currently in the oval office. Also quit being a racist piece of shit.
Imagine that, judges decided on criminals’ fate. Next they will want to decide who is even a criminal.
Oh brother… leave up to Liberals to want hardcore rapists and murderers to stay in the US… they’re only doing this because it’s Trump… and we both know it.
I ain’t your brother, what I do know is that right wingers hate foreigners, the alleged crimes being just an excuse.
What a strongly worded condemnation!
Anyway
You should have seen the glare of severe consternation the judge cast towards the back of the exiting lawyer!!!
Are we still pretending this matters anymore?
☒ Soap box ☒ Ballot box ☒ Jury box ☐ Ammo box
Promises promises.
Judge SLAMS Trump with no legal action whatsoever.
Uh oh! This Judge sounds PISSED! SOON Trump is going to get a STERNLY WRITTEN LETTER! And if they DEFY that? OH Boy! ANOTHER letter will be on the way!
I’d Like to See Ol Donny Trump Wriggle His Way Out of THIS Jam!
You guys literally got my overweight middle aged ass giggling like an imbecile in my office at work
