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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz Tim Walz warns that Trump may soon arrest political opponents and potentially groom one of his sons, likely Donald Jr., as a successor.

“It’s going to get very dark,” Walz told CNN, citing Trump’s defiance of a judge’s order on Venezuelan migrants and calls to impeach a federal judge as evidence of authoritarian tendencies.

He expressed concern that Democratic leaders underestimate Trump’s authoritarianism and public frustration with both parties.

Walz criticized Schumer’s handling of the GOP spending bill and questioned how Democrats will rebuild institutions damaged by Trump.

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    Immigrants are being loaded onto planes and shipped off to places they probably won’t return from - without having even been accused of a crime, much less tried in court. Supporters of the president don’t care because they’re immigrants.

    Now swap “immigrants” with “jews”, “planes” with “trains”, and “president” with “chancellor”, and what do you get?

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    Democrats won’t do a thing. They are in on it. They have been ratcheting towards oligarchy little by little.

    They need to be replaced.

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      Most of them, but there are ones like him who still have integrity. Don’t toss them aside.

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        All I’ve seen him do so far is talk and be part of a losing Presidential ticket. What is he doing?

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          Following Bernie’s lead and doing town hall meetings in Republican districts, which is where all of these sound bites are coming from. And he’s not gaslighting us or sanewashing the actions of the GOP right now which is refreshing.

          I’m not sure what else he could be doing right now tbh, he’s governor of Minnesota and we’re pretty gridlocked politically at the moment - nationally the only thing he’s got is being on that losing presidential ticket, his main motivation seems to be the Democrats winning elections to make people’s lives better even if he isn’t the presidential nominee in a few years.

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        AOC and Bernie are on tour. Walz might be ok, but he’s still on probation until he shows true spine, not just very good rhetoric.

        I would very much like to know of other Federal office holders we can count on. I am serious, not baitin’. Looking to find some hope and figure out who to boost or help.

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        Oh no didn’t you get the memo? Democrats are worse and more to blame for what’s currently happening than Republicans and you’re a dirty liberal if you disagree.

        No nuance allowed.

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    There were warnings at least a year before the election, many people laid out what is to come, it was barely taken serious, mostly ignored. And even now the media and government types are doing mostly a half assed “we’re stunned he’s doing this, but oh well, another day another decree”

    It is too late, there will come an indefinite next term of Trump’s hegemony, and when he dies his son will take over as new/official king. He himself might not want to take up the title soon but when his next in line is ready it will start to be brandished about.

    The writing is on the wall with how he is already tearing up any legal restrictions laid on him.

    The current “proposals” for a 3rd term are only there to get people acquainted with it under the guise of “let him finish the job” but it will get hammered through, objections will not be tolerated.

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      I was working in D.C., on Ukraine-related issues specifically, and STILL couldn’t get people to believe Trump was in Russia’s pocket. Despite first-hand experience with these worthless shits. That was almost 10 years ago. I just gave up trying to convince people, but hey, how nice to be proven right, I guess. I didn’t need it, I already fucking knew. It’s all just depressing to watch.

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      I can’t tell you how many times I was told I was being dramatic and/or crazy. All I have is a bunch of fuck you’s for all the people who would not listen to me. I’m so angry seeing “in four years” statements when I know damn well there will be no more legit voting. I am still wanting to slap everyone for being so fucking dense to the reality. I don’t think usa is worth saving at this point, everyone is just too fucking stupid and I’m tired of swimming upsteam.

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    We know Tim. We know.

    But hey, our representatives are voting as hard as they can, right? That’ll show em!

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        They are voting against OUR interests. They’re absolutely voting for their own. At least Schumer and the other Dems that passed the CR the other day

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      Yeah, we know. But I don’t think we’re exactly representative of the average voter. The lack of politicians coming out and saying this shit is alarming, and we need more of it.

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      It’s so frustrating. You don’t have to warn anybody, it’s already happening! You have to do something.

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        Doing something requires courage, and the vast majority of our current Dems are feckless cowards. Most are content to hide behind their job descriptions and enjoy their free healthcare and when the time comes, deploy their golden parachutes.

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      We’re watching the Hans litten part play out.

      Any violence in retaliation against then will be their rachstag and there’s no turning back.

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      Trump’s team very carefully which Court orders to initially openly defy. Lots of people don’t see the urgency in defending the rights of “gang members.” But what he’s doing is setting the precedent that people can be sent to overseas labor camps without ANY due process.

      Lots of American citizens may soon find themselves being accused of being Venezuelan gang members or agents of foreign “terrorist” groups.

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        Or a member of Hamas or some other actual terrorist groups because they sent a text that said “Israel is commiting genocide”

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    Yeah I gotta say, avenues and windows of action are closing. We’re running out of choices if we dont want to live under a dictatorship for the next twenty or more years.

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      We’re also at a terrifying point in terms of the technology they have access to.

      AI and drones are going to enable some horrible things.

      It used to take effort to run surveilance on dissenters. Used to take men pulling the trigger. Now, who knows?

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    I wonder if Walz will become the George Washington of America, while AOC and Bernie can be Founding Parents for other aspects of a reformed nation?

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      It became pretty clear, pretty quickly, that he was by far the more compelling candidate for president. If the Dems would put aside their obssession with only offering presidential nominations to minorities and women, they could do a lot more good for those constituencies by getting elected over empty election martyrdom. They need to be reminded that the first rule of politics is “Get Elected,” not making futile, empty gestures of being “first.”

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        I wouldn’t so much blame Democrats as a whole, but definitely Biden. He dropped out late and then “crowned” his successor. I didn’t mind her all that much, compared to the orange nightmare, but I was still pretty pissed the Democrats essentially bypassed a democratic process of choosing a nominee.

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          The lack of a primary does two things: It prevents the selection of a good candidate, but also robs the anointed of legitimacy. The DNC doesn’t believe in democracy, and told voters as much by putting its fingers onto the scale. Or removing the scale outright, in the case of Kamala.

          You cannot prove your merit, if there is no contest.

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          I didn’t mind it too much (the naming Kamela part - Biden staying in the race for so long with a dead campaign was a travesty). As Vice President she was already voted by the American people to be his successor, so making her the nominee was just asking the public if that was still the case. With so little time before the election, avoiding factionalizing the Democratic party was important - people will eventually get over their candidate losing and vote for the winning nominee, but there wasn’t time for a nomination and for those feelings to fade before November.

          I only wish she’d kept the energy and progressive drive of the first few days of her candidacy rather than falling victim to the same advisors that ruined Hillary and Biden’s runs. This election should have been an easy win for even the lamest Democratic candidate, but it seems Democrats learned nothing from Obama’s success (well, unless you count “shut down progressives early before they gain momentum”).

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        The problem is not the minority or gender association, it’s the platform. People said a black man couldn’t win the presidency until Obama ran as a progressive and won handily. I don’t give two shits that Kamala Harris wasn’t white or a man. Biden was both of those things and I didn’t like him any better. I still voted for both of them because even a wet dog turd is better than Trump, but we need people to get excited about an alternative, not just vote against Trump.

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          Sure, YOU voted dems anyway, but not everyone did. And it’s those others that didn’t that you need to consider if you want to win elections. Is it that they didn’t vote Kamala because she is female and belongs to a minority? Honestly it’s not unlikely that that is the case. Obviously it shouldn’t matter, but it still seems like it does.

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            Where is the actual evidence that the reason the voters sat out is because she is a woman/poc and not because she was running as an establishment dem candidate. Your reasoning is how we get dems saying that its ok to throw trans people under the bus because they are clearly to scary to the average voter.

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              The evidence is all the news articles claiming progressives aren’t electible until enough people are parroting it that the only options are conservative horror or conservative status quo.

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                You’ve got to give it to the mainstream media, they have managed to convince so many people that they are not smart enough to think for themselves even though they are wrong so often.

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          Yeah this is the real problem - the Dems care WAY too much about seniority and ‘whose turn it is’. They care more about that than electability or messaging or, god forbid, formulating a platform that actually speaks to the average American that would inform all of the above.

          On voting day I’m going to hold my nose and vote for anyone that isn’t a fascist criminal. But I promised my leftist friends that the rest of the time I’m going to do what I can to push the Democratic party to actually represent us, and that’s what I intend to do.

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        Stop spreading this bullshit. Her being a minority had nothing to do with her losing. She lost totally on her own merit. Fearmongering about minorities losing elections only creates a self-fulfilling prophecy where no minority can run. Also, they chose Biden, a straight white man, so no they don’t only run minorities.

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          I dosnt say she lost because she was a minority, she lost because the Democratic party would rather skip their best candidates in favor of being the first woman, or black, or black woman, etc. president. At this point in history, we need someone who the electorate will perceive as strong enough to stand up to our enemies, and a woman is probably doesn’t going to generate that perception. I hate saying that, but with two losing women candidates, the Dems have to stop shoving that issue down everyone’s throats, amd consider some new strategies for WINNING.

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            More men have lost than women. Biden was losing worse than she was and he was a white man. You say

            I dosnt say she lost because she was a minority…

            and then

            At this point in history, we need someone who the electorate will perceive as strong enough to stand up to our enemies, and a woman is probably doesn’t going to generate that perception.

            So, which is it?

            Women can be perceived as powerful. If you don’t then that’s your problem. I’m not going to say Harris did, but it isn’t because she’s a woman. Biden looked weaker and, again, he’s a man. I would say AOC looks stronger. It just takes someone willing to fight. It doesn’t take a man. Democrats tend to run non-fighters. That’s the issue. Not that they sometimes run women or minorities.

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          centrists see the excitement behind AOC and want to prevent her from running. That’s all this is about.

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            That Dems are more opposed to supporting an actual progressive candidate than they are to the current administration (if we can still call it that) is very telling.

            The right had a vision, a story (a dark one but nonetheless). The dems platformed on nothing in particular. Obama won overwhelmingly on Hope and Change (only to squander much of it trying to cross the aisle). Having a vision makes all the difference.

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    Its crazy that the republicans even at this point is not impeaching him. He has definitively ignored a court order. The only lever left is impeachment to retain our system.

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      There have been a countless number of sycophants that have sold out their country throughout history. This is just another bunch of them. More sour grapes from the vines of humanity.

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      You underestimate how many scared and poor people actively welcome authoritarianism.

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      Its crazy that the republicans even at this point is not impeaching him.

      Why? They don’t give a shit about the laws. With Trump in power, they stay on his good side, they have run of the place.

      The USA we all knew is now dead. There is no coming back from this. If you have money in US funds or US companies, move it. It won’t be worth anything after civil war break out - and it will.

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        being a congressman won’t mean anything if the executive controls all. this is their last chance at relevance.

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        Crazy that we’re watching the death of an empire in real time. Would be kinda interesting if it weren’t for the needless human suffering and that whole existential threat to civilisation thing.

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        Its the only *legal lever

        • except according to the man in question you commit no crime when saving the country so executing him in public would be legal.
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    This is the same Tim Walz that champions civil disarmament? Now he’s warning us about the very thing that the right to bear arms is supposed to protect the people against. Glad Tim and his party didn’t succeed in making us all impotent in the face of this fascist regime.

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    We’ve all been understanding this even while Walz et al were talking about how they might run in a few years.

    Only argument is I see no way trump trusts don jr with even being a figurehead.

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      They’re gonna put in Barron because he knows how to turn on a computer. That’s a step of competency above his other sons. Also, they’ll want the youngest one in for the longest-lived dictatorship.

      Further, Barron has made inroads in the right wing podcast ecosystem. The other Trump boys are still living in the 90’s, they’ll want someone who understands the modern era and can influence it.

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        Long term maybe, but short term Barron is too young and the Constitution isn’t ambiguous about the age limits - and even if it’s worth little more than toilet paper it serves the Republicans to keep it around as a zombie so they can keep pretending this is a democracy.

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          Dude, they already stopped giving a fuck about the Constitution. We’re literally in the middle of a Constitutional crisis. They’re ignoring the courts.

          I’m so tired of hearing this “blah blah blah Consitution doesn’t allow” they will make it allow it. Just like how Bannon was quoted that they’re working on Trump’s third term, which means they’re just going to re-interpret everything into their favor.

          Just like how they just argued that they needed to deport Venezuelans with no criminal history because somehow that means they’re more dangerous to the US than those with a criminal history.

          Just stop this checks and balances nonsense, that shit’s over. In four years it will be dead and in it’s grave.

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    I formally invite, on behalf of all Canadians, Both Mr. Waltz and Mrs. Harris to come to Canada.