If they’re genuinely apologetic and recognize they made a terrible choice, then yes… Welcome back to reality.
That’s fantastic. This encourages taking personal responsibility over their action. I think it’s important to allow people to learn and grow, without the shame. Shame keeps people locked into their false beliefs. The more apologetics we have, the faster change will come. With that said, don’t forget these people. They still have fucked up beleifs.
I agree.
I feel that on our end, it’s going to be more important than ever that it’s not just what we say but how we say it that will actually change how those who voted for Trump will feel.
People are capable of self reflection, but if you don’t believe it then you’re helping them to have no shot at it.I have learned that people tend fulfill my expectations of them, so if i want them to do better i have to genuinely expect better of them and treat them with utmost compassion when they miss the mark
Fucked up beliefs that are rooted in fear of losing what little they have. The class war affects them as much as us, and the more people who realize it, the more well equipped for revolution they’ll be
And when these trump voters vote for republicans again, democrats will blame the left. Again.
Anyone who is catastrophically stupid enough to be swayed by someone like Trump is not a potential ally. They are, at best, a liability.
Seems to be a division here based on the (ex)Trumpanzee’s sincerity vs not.
My thought is who gives a shit if they’re sincere? The goal isn’t to convert them, it’s to defeat Trump and people like Trump - if a former Trump voter can be used against him, I have no issues at all with at least pretending to accept that that person is having an authentic denazification. Whether or not they’re truly capable of self reflection is kinda moot
Appologetic is the key word. There needs to be accountability, not even for a sake of justice or anything, but just due to the fact that they need to have learned a lesson to be an ally of the cause, and not just an eventual traitor.
If MAGAts were going to change, they would have. They are only “feeling bad” because something King Dipshit has done is affecting them now.
They will continue to vote for republikkkans and continue to drag our society backwards or at least be a stone around the neck of progress.
Do not trust or forgive. If they want to do some good now, ofc let them, but don’t be fooled. They’ve shown who they really are.
As much as it’s fun to say fuck you I told you so, you catch more flies with honey. We need to make it easy to leave the cult and not make people double down just because they feel ashamed or feel like they have to defend something. The goal, while enticing, is not to rub people’s nose in the shit they admittedly helped create. The goal should be to get rid of this motherfucker and reverse everything he’s done.
As much as it’s fun to say fuck you I told you so, you catch more flies with honey.
How much more honey are you going to steal from the left and give to your buddies on the right?
So you still believe voting can fix this?
I agree with you but put out some honey next to some balsamic vinegar sometime and see which one pulls more flies.
Shouldn’t be turning people away that are apologetic, but don’t think the path to victory lies there. All the people that are sitting out elections are the ones that should be targeted. So few of eligible voters are actually doing so.
I keep talking to people who didn’t vote and they keep saying it’s because neither candidate represents their interests.
Maybe we should be ‘targeting’ the establishment simps that keep nominating establishment candidates?
Trump only won because Bernie lost, for example. How come we don’t blame the people who nominated hillary clinton?
Oh it think everybody, except the twenty people that told her she was going to be president, do in fact blame those 20 people.
But I think most of the democratic voters are going to choose the lesser of two evils (would be beautiful to vote for someone), so getting a candidate that gets more non-voters to show up is way better than getting people to change their politics. I would guess that would mean more progressive policies anyway, as those tend to have a greater impact on most people’s lives.
Hope the feral and heavily armed ones turn on him
Too bad I don’t know any that stop drinking the kool-aid (flavor aid), they still think that hurting liberals makes hurting conservatives worth it.
Disagree if you want, but I’ve felt this way and have been saying some variation of this (but perhaps not as eloquently) pretty much since November of 2024.
Granted, in the immediate wake of the election, even I didn’t think things would be this way, at least not so soon. As soon as he took office, anybody with half a brain cell could see, first-hand sans conjecture, just how much of a disaster we were in for. I was like, at this stage, we’re going to have to root for the hamberders to do their thing and in the mean time we’re going to have to turn the other cheek and accept those Trump voters who come to regret their vote. If there are enough of them, and they genuinely see an apology as a path out of the cult, there’s a better chance of turning things around.
Hey, so long as they’re willing to put the ones who aren’t apologetic against the wall
It’s never to late to do the right thing.
Yall maybe forgiving but not i any and all Trump voters are traitors. Because you cannot stand there and listen to this man commit sedition
Say shit like “i have a concept of a plan”
And still slap knee “gosh darn it that is the man I must vote for president what a patriot!”
Fuck that. Cowards all of them. Every single one in gov. And every single voter.
Remember the women who slept with Nazis and after the war? That’s Trump supporters.
Just don’t say you used to support the guy and do your part to try to get him legally out of the whitehouse along with his admin buddies.