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I’m pretty sure they all overwhelmingly achieved the same goal for the rich, it’s really very dishonest not counting Clinton at least at around the same level as Reagan.
(Well, Kennedy had that car accident, so perhaps he didn’t end his term fully.)
Reagan dropped the highest individual rate from 50% to 28%
Clinton raised it to 35%, increased tax on gasoline and removed a lot of upper limits.
It’s the fakest shit to say they’re all on the same team.
Also, for one brief, shining moment we had no deficit under Clinton. I’m not a fan of his, but that was a thing.
A good chunk of that “fix” caused the hellscape we’re in today. He renewed the corn subsidies that encouraged overfarming, making high-fructose corn syrup less expensive than sugar. He also beefed up our trade and foreign investment relations with China which made it less expensive to manufacture overseas than domestically.
Corn syrup was cheaper than sugar well before Clinton. One of the main reasons for the “new coke” debacle in '85 was the switch from sugar to corn syrup.
Right. That was due to corn subsidies encouraging overproduction. Those expired under Clinton. We knew it was a problem, but he put the economy before our national health and renewed the subsidies.
Yes.
My reasoning was that while those things changed over time/each president, the Clinton’s financial deregulation has affected decades of economy til this day, arguably also including deficits under future president (after 2007 crisis especially), which is his supposed achievement.
wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration#Deregulation_of_banking
Almost as if we have to totally vote out the GOP.
Well, Clinton was blue-flavoured, not red.
So vote out anyone conservative or further right.
Needs more purple & various kaleidoscopic patterns.
Yeah let me ignore all the atrocities that blue presidents committed abroad, those don’t count since its brown people
I happen to be a fan of voting for what’s best for the country I live in and the people I care about, then taking other countries into consideration after that.
Life isn’t perfect. I strive for whatever is closest. And I’m smart enough to know voting 3rd party in a presidential election is dumb as fuck because no 3rd party is viable because none have done the work to become viable.
So I’ll take the party that has a record of voting in favor of middle/lower class Americans over the party that only punishes average Americans and takes their rights away.
Pretty basic math.
And I’m smart enough
Proceeds to justify how a “slow loss” is somehow a win.
You’re part of the problem, and these problems won’t get solved until you’re as insignificant as 3rd party voters.
Missing a Bush before Clinton. HW before W.
And Carter, Ford, Nixon, and Johnson between JFK and Reagan.
Also:
BIDEN: Don’t be Trump.
Do you mean recover from a poorly handled pandemic while stimulating economic growth?
He was forgettable
I’ll always remember him eating ice cream cones while supporting genocide.
Who?
Why did we nominate Biden over Bernie?
Hey that’s not fair, he also campaigned on explicitly hurting a bunch of vulnerable people!
Kennedy got to the the moon. (Posthumously)
Clinton eliminated the deficit.
Obama did not achieve universal health care.
He did give free or extremely cheap healthcare to tens of millions of americans and brought down proces nationwide by creating competition.
And if not for independent Joe Leiberman being the holdout for the 60 it took to pass any form of the bill he would have accomplished more.
Congress wouldn’t let him. The President doesn’t write the laws and can only ask Congress to do so.
Sadly, even if Sanders were elected, it wouldn’t have made universal healthcare a reality.
You need 218 progressives in the house and 50 progressives in the senate. So… not happening.
Technically you need 51 or 50 + VP tiebreaker unless a Republican filibusters then you need 60.
You can change senate rules if you have a comfortable majority but I’m pretty sure they can filibuster that, too, and it might backfire like removing the filibuster for SCOTUS and cabinet picks has.
You can’t filibuster a rule change.
Its literally been done before.
First, filibuster was removed for normal court appointments during Obama Admin
Then filibuster was removed for supreme court appointments during the first trump admin.
Neither could be filibustered (otherwise the rules wouldn’t been changed, and we don’t have 3 trump appointees in SCOTUS)
Progressives would need to down ballot vote for that to happen. Would also need to support and fund progressive candidates.
Progressives currently can’t even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.
Progressives currently can’t even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.
Of course not!
They’re doing something far more critical and effective!
They’re withholding votes based on purity testing and otherwise being manipulated into nullifying themselves by online manipulation by the right.
The funny thing is, americans already kinda have universal healthcare… just with a middleman. Where do they think those insurance premiums are going?
There’s still a significant amount of people who are uninsured. So, no, Americans do not have universal healthcare.
Universal Healthcare (behind a paywall)
Executive order deporting anyone in senate not voting for his agenda?
/s (but only for a few months, then headlines will explain how it’s apparently a real option)
Yes and, they also needed to break a filibuster by the Republicans, which took 60 votes in the Senate, despite severe illness and Republican shenanigans. It was a huge lift to get what we got.
He never seriously fought for universal healthcare. He stopped advocating for it before he even started fighting. As soon as he got a “reality check”, not a word of support for universal healthcare was ever uttered by him to the best of my knowledge. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, though.
This is exactly it. Obama waged no fight a pre negotiated good healthcare plan to get us the heritage plan.
Kennedy got to the the moon. (Posthumously)
I think just a few parts of his skull made it to the moon.
Weird cuz a lot of things Clinton did seem to be more money for rich people too
That was always their secondary goal.
Yes, it’s why the clintons win primaries over progressives.
Neo-liberals are the scum of the earth.
Reducing the deficit by cutting things that benefit the working class coincides with money for rich people.
And the Americans are dumb enough to fall for the red lies every time they run.
Maybe nobody actually gives a shit about “balanced budgets”, imperialism in outer space, or sabotaged healthcare.
Nixon’s Southern Strategy
Winning elections for Republicans since 1968
Arguably, all were successful except Obama.
It was too partisan I think. The ideals of universal Healthcare were not fully realized but definitely did expand Healthcare access, which isn’t enough.
There were a couple corporate dems that ratfucked progress
The dems could have kicked them off all committees, the president appoints the head of the IRS and the Attorney General, either of whom can fuck a politician up, or just removed the filibuster. Pelosi chose to let Liberman be the villain of the week. Same shit we saw under Biden where every week 1 dem or another or the parliamentarian or norms would stop the democrats from doing anything that might improve people’s conditions (and get the dems reelected).
“Successful”
The two party system is cooked.
Nothing will get better till the two party system is a thing of the past.
We don’t have a 2 party system.
In theory you don’t, in practice you do.
Gotta switch to proportional representation if you want to break up the two parties. I suggest Sequential Proportional Approval Voting for multi-winner elections, and pair it with regular Approval Voting for single-winner elections. Both can be implemented at every level in the US, and some places can do so by referendum. Lemme know if you’re interested.
Dems: More money for millionaires. Reps: More money for billionaires.
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If you can’t trust a meme for your politics, who can you trust?
This is not true. Trump’s goal as president is to stay out of prison.
Well there’s two rows missing. That would be Trump 2: get trumped
That was his goal as a candidate. His goal now is to put everyone else in
prisonconcentration camps.That was goal 1, now goal 2 is excuting the biggest grifting world tour ever seen.
I’d’ve rather that it’d never come but, at a certain point, it reaches a point where it is mesmerizing, in its scope and scale.
Imagine how much he would snitch. He’ll never be allowed to cop a deal or go to prison.
I like former President Obama, but his ACA was half baked. It is not even close to the healthcare system in Germany and other EU members.
Do you know why though?
The ACA was essentially the republican compromise that was offered to Clinton when he tried to get universal health care. He rejected it and was unable to get any meaningful change.
It shows how much we have moved to the right that the republican plan from 10 years earlier was barely able to be passed by Democrats.
I’ll also point out that Clinton’s big goal for his time in offices was universal health care not balancing the budget. He completely failed on that but did briefly balance the budget.
Still better than the republican goals.
Blame Republicans and a couple of Democrats. Yes, it was half-baked, but it was also almost defeated, and later almost repealed. The alternative of “nothing” is so much worse.
Romneycare
Theodore Roosevelt: Be a badass mother fucker
It’s not about the party or the POTUS, it’s all about the oligarchs who are funding the parties and really make things happen. All of them were in debt to oligarchs and had to return the given money for the campaigns somehow. Don’t be fooled, as long as the funding of political parties isn’t reformed to prevent these oligarchs to grab everything there will not be much for the rest of us. Just enough to avoid revolt and riots as long as sustainable. Democracy in the USA is a mascarade.
