• KneeTitts@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      Dave Chapelle

      Yup, he turned into a dick as he got old. A lot of celebs do that, or they cant afford that PR team anymore that used to make the look like they werent aholes.

    • Ledericas@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 month ago

      hes basically, why is everyone getting upset about my transphobic jokes. and then all the conservatives start flocking to his show.

      • boaratio@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        1 month ago

        I’ve gotten into arguments with friends about this, but decades ago I stayed home from work sick and watched his Netflix special about how he got kicked off a Southwest flight for being too fat. I was raised religious and have evolved my thoughts over the years, but his parents were in a audience, and he said some of the most crass shit I’ve ever heard. My parents would’ve washed my mouth out with soap if I said what he said. I understand overall he’s very generous, but seeing his special left a bad taste in my mouth.

        Plus, jorts.

      • David_Eight@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        I think people here are taking OPs question a little bit to seriously and Kevin Smith is 100% a valid answer. The question was about someone you “liked” and don’t “like” now. Not, who turned out to be a horrible person.

        Kevin Smith hasn’t done anything controversial and genuinely seems like a nice man enjoying life and good for him. But, artisticly his movies have fallen off considerably in my opinion and lack any effort/message. Personality wise he’s also made a major shift. Previously being more thoughtful and critical of things to now kind of just gone full “happy stoner shill”.

        As someone who grew up in 90s New Jersey Kevin Smiths and his early work will always hold a special place in my heart but I’ll probably never watch anything new he’ll ever make the rest of my life.

        Patrick (H) Willems actually did a great video essay on basically this exact subject that’s worth a watch lol

      • Nollij@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 month ago

        Not OP, but mildly controversial was his movie Red State. It was a not-so-subtle take on the Westboro Baptist Church and their stance on gays.

        Or maybe they’re still upset about Jersey Girl, which was way too common and wholesome for the guy behind Jay and Silent Bob.

        (Hot take: if Jersey Girl didn’t have Smith or Carlin, it would’ve been mildly praised at the time and then mostly forgotten)

    • Bruncvik@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      I don’t follow other people’s private activities, but this one hurt a lot. He remains one of my favourite authors, and having him disappear from publishing leaves holes in my library (Trees and Injection, in particular).

  • Justdaveisfine@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    1 month ago

    I got about a dozen YouTubers and streamers that fit in this box.

    It seems to be inevitable. They either stop posting or streaming, or they reveal themselves to be kind of messed up.

  • ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 month ago

    Carlos Sobera, a really great TV host in Spain, with the boom of sport betting websites and almost no regulations on the ads, he became the face of one of those websites with very aggressive tactics.

    He also started to appear on ads for a payday loan company.

    So he was promoting gambling and high interest small loans that are used by gambling adicts.

  • Jhex@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    38
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 month ago

    why do you people love celebrities so much?

    if someone handles a ball nicely, writes a book, sings a song or plays guitar, like them for that and stop assuming they must also be wise in family advice or politically savvy

    • normalexit@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 month ago

      You have to be incredibly good at something for me to ignore you being an asshole. There are also certain things that are unforgivable even if the art is good.

      It’s like Cosby was funny, but he drugged and raped people, so it’s hard to laugh at him now.

      • Jhex@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 month ago

        Absolutely, but I think you misunderstood me…

        Let’s pretend for a moment Cosby is not a rapist; why do anyone infer that, because his comedy was good, he would be a good role model or have savvy life advice to give or know about politics, etc?

        I completely agree with you that it’s is almost impossible to enjoy whatever celebrities do (art, sports, etc) if they are horrible people. however, that line is subjective. Many would still like Cosby if we had found out he does not donate to charity or even if he is an absent dad or if he were a terrible driver… obviously the rapist thing goes too far

        • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          ·
          1 month ago

          I’m gonna be the first akshually here and point out that Cosby is a bad example because he DID present himself as a guiding voice and role model and came to fame by creating a cartoon showing inner city kids how to be good to each other and handle life issues.

          • Ledericas@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 month ago

            and then theres people say the only way he could actually do that was getting inspiration from his rapes and SA.

        • Smoogs@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          The audience can make up their mind on how to enjoy entertainment without your approval of their thoughts and experiences . That’s how free will works.

          • Jhex@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 month ago

            I’m not granting or denying approval to anyone… I simply wonder why people do certain stuff

            Go back to reddit to pick fights with strangers there!

            • Smoogs@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 month ago

              You gave way too hard of an opinion to call that leading question ‘curiosity’.

              Go back to truth social where you can live in your little echo chamber and maybe stop baiting. You’re too fragile to be playing that game.

                • Smoogs@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 month ago

                  You don’t need to seek approval and apologize for having free will. Nor does anyone owe you an apology for their own. And they don’t owe you an explanation for having it.

                  Lesson 1, little grasshopper.

        • normalexit@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 month ago

          It really comes down to the calculus of how much I like them vs what did they actually do (with some things being truly unforgivable).

          For example, Sylvester Stallone recently came out in big support of Trump. To me, that makes him a huge ass. That said, I’ll still watch Rocky 4 if it comes on (all the while, in the back of my head thinking “wow, really, Trump… that’s your guy?”). So my perception of him and his movies change, but also it’s his right to be an idiot.

          In the same vein, Rob Schneider has recently made his whole personality a bitter old conservative "comic’. He really brings little of value to the table, so he can easily be dismissed. His value/drama ratio isn’t worth giving him the time of day – we’ll outside of this example.

          I can’t totally divorce the person from their content, but I try when their stuff is great and what they did isn’t too repulsive.

          • Delphia@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 month ago

            I also throw into the equation “How much time has passed?”

            I’m no massive fan but Mark Wahlberg is a good example, dude was a straight up violent racist asshole when he was young but the last thing was in 1992. I just cant bring myself to be mad at a 54yo for something he did 23 years ago.

          • LavaPlanet@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 month ago

            After hearing from Robs daughter how she was treated and what he was / is like as a person, I can’t like anything he did, and it all comes across narcissistic and creepy from that viewpoint. It’s like a game of power but with a curse. (whatever that game is really called,)

          • Ledericas@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 month ago

            seinfeld is like rob,“why arnt you laughing at my jokes, are you all woke” no because you support israel government, and your wife is currently funding state side groups.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 month ago

      Speak for yourself.

      People can decide for themselves on what their standards are and what integrity means.

      As it should. It’s part of how a person learns independent thought and critical thinking.

      You’ve made your choice. Now Leave people to their’s.

  • SkaraBrae@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    68
    ·
    1 month ago

    Bill Cosby. I was raised on Bill Cosby albums and TV shows. I can’t listen to him any more.

    • FenrirIII@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 month ago

      He’s one of the few people who’s work I can separate from the monster, but only because it was my first comedy album as a kid

    • Canopyflyer@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 month ago

      My family had “The Best of Bill Cosby” album when I was a kid and we listened to it a lot. Some of the funniest bits on that album and I always had warm memories sitting and listening to them.

      Then it comes out that he’s a complete monster. All those family memories tied to that now, it really sucks.

  • RBWells@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 month ago

    Oh, Garrett Borns. Such fantastic pop music, got accused of grooming, retired.

    Came back, years with a whiny track about that, not even good, so bad, I guess it broke him.