These are some depressing numbers.
47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.
45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.
… An equal share — 45% — also disapprove of the protests against ICE, per Monday YouGov polling.
36% said they approve of the protests, and 19% said they are not sure.
58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.
58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.
I wonder how does it compare to previous iterations of large protests.
The article implied this is within historic norms for civil rights protests in the US
That’s because there are hundreds of millions of racist fascists here.
Less than the majority is depressing, but don’t forget how the media is covering this. MAGA eats this shit up, obviously, but even your standard semi-informed people are getting “riots on the street of LA” bullshit on their local news outlets.
I’m actually a little surprised it’s “almost half” in disapproval, given how badly this is covered. I wonder if TikTok and Bluesky are helping, the latter being obvious but the former being surprisingly good at showing what’s actually happening on the ground-- at least a lot better than Meta and X options.
Yeah, also even though it’s “almost half” there’s more people saying disapprove than approve, so there’s a large number in the “unsure” category right now, and the more we find out about who’s being deported and how and what the cops will do to suppress these protests the more that disapprove number will go up
america has lost the war on stupidity.
Theyve been waging a war on education for decades
well, they won.
Nearly half eh? Yeah less then half checkes out.
So a majority approves. Fuck this country.
Generally not how polling works, only 34% approved and the remainder is just no response.
75% of Republican respondents approved of the National Guard deployment, only 68% for the Marines deployment.
45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.
So 38% are enemies of Constitution and country.
Anytime there’s a poll, it’s always the same 30-39% of shitheads liking the bad thing.
The Authoritarians- a book by Prof. Altmeyer- says there’s about 1/3 of the population who are authoritarians and that percentage is pretty constant no matter what one does. SO it sounds about right
I hadn’t heard of that book before. Looking it up, it’s a book about the psychology of authoritarianism, backed by research and receipts. I’ll add it to the top of my reading list. It also seems to be available for free on the author’s website. Thank you for this.
Well no. Im an enemy of most of the country and certainly its government, not super a fan of the constitution, and im extremely unhappy about this.
I disapprove of his existence.
To be honest part of me wants his raids to spread to other cities, especially in middle America, so it hits home to more voters. Especially his wavering voters. Some people can only recognize something if they experience it first hand.
It will spread, but not in the middle of the country. He’s allegedly targeted blue cities like New York, Chicago, Seattle next.
Our new chief of police here in Seattle just said that he expects to be arrested and imprisoned for protecting the city against these raids. Sounds like he might be a keeper. We sure could use it.
It way more than half. Polling almost always favors fanatics.
It way more than half.
How do you know?
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Sure, if you designed a poll like you describe, it would have problems. But there are well studied ways of designing polls so the result is truly representative. There’s a whole science of this, and professional polls done in good faith will be designed to avoid these kinds of issues.
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There have been studies done about who responds to polling especially polling about politics. The personality types were laid out in it. Thats how I know.
Nearly half of Americans don’t understand that when an illegal and immoral tactic is used against someone you don’t like, it can then be used against you too. Dumb fucking Americans.
We need to start finding ways to take away the rights of Evangelical Christians. Let them see how it feels for once.
Have you considered wishing them Happy Holidays?
“Happy winter celebrations, fellas!” “I hope you’ll enjoy your Germanic pagan traditions”
NEARLY HALF?
If “nearly half” disprove that means more than half approve.
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This is exactly what happens with democratic societies
No. This is what happens when you have two sides, both too large to really represent anyone, battling for a sliver of majority using increasingly diverging views and then exercising as much power as they can before the roles flip again.
In an actual democracy representatives of the people, with many differing views, sit down together and decide case by case on a solution that most can be happy with.
Someone will always disagree with any decision when we live in a large society, but a functioning democracy is the closest thing we have ever come to making sure that as many as possible are happy (and more importantly get a say).
Unfortunately exactly this outcome is the inevitable result of a FPTP voting system combined with political parties. The most stable arrangement of such a system is a two party system, and once it reaches that point the winning party becomes the one willing to take the most extreme position from the other party.
The only way to fix this is to do away with FPTP and replace it with a proportional voting system that will allow for multiple political parties to be viable and encourage the major parties to seek moderate positions rather than extremes.
Absolutely agree! First past the post will always drift toward larger and less representative parties. Even proportional representation can have this tendency, but it is much more resilient.
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Indeed! And they do under representational democracies. In a community there will always be some sort of law or code, whether written or not, that some members of that community disagree with.
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Per the article:
47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.
45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.
That leaves 19% and 17% that are undecided. The question for those would be are they uninterested or uninformed?
Both probably. Or just flat out too stupid to have an opinion
Who gives a shit? They’ve proven themselves fucking useless like the shit heels they are.
…he’s pointing out the percentages. Almost half disapprove but only 38% approve and the rest were undecided
To be fair here and without looking up numbers, such polls tend to often show the same pattern. Something like 45% A, 30% undecided, 25% B.
So when “nearly half” disapprove it can still mean “a majority” does.
Not a majority. A plurality.
Okay, then let me rephrase it: When “nearly half” disapprove it can (and probably does) mean that there is still no majority (or plurality) approving, which is what OP falsely concluded.
There’s always a good percentage that are indifferent or “don’t know”. But they’re no help.
Which is the exact same as approving it.
So basically the same outcome as the election. People haven’t changed.
The people that don’t care will continue to not care until it affects them directly. Even with the tariffs it won’t matter until what they’re actually buying gets hit by the price hikes. Even then they may not even be paying enough attention to their finances to notice.
And even if they express disapproval they will vote or not vote in the same manner because the other side is worse or both are bad.
It’s ok because it will never happen to me! Huh? These politicians have zero policy agenda and thrive on having an other to rally against? They’ll go after me for the pettiest of things like living while poor to fill their private prison quotas once all the gross gays and browns are reduced to cinder? Nah. This is America. It can’t happen here!
“nearly”…?
Between 33% and 38% of Americans shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions because they are incompetent or vile. That’s how many have never wavered in their support of Trump.
But I am shocked here at the extra 12+% who aren’t outraged by what’s happening now. Is that the 11% of Libertarians? (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/08/25/in-search-of-libertarians/)
Libertarians are just right wing fascists who don’t like paying taxes
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